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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/comment-page-2/#comment-238844</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 09:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More important now IMO than continuing to speculate on whether BJ is an incorrigible or redeemable buffoon is to observe and assess the styles and ways of the new mayoralty in London.

As best I can tell, BJ seems to have adopted wholesale the Blairite innovations in spin and PR presentation, so we have lots of pics of BJ doing incidental things - jogging, cycling - with much instructing of officials to do what is expected of them in the New Order along with dire threats as to the fate that will befall them if they fail to come up with the goodies.

All that has been welded on to pre-Thatcherite Tory habits, namely in government you don&#039;t waste time on analysing problems or issues. What you do is to find some plausible person to solve the problem and appoint him (it is usually a him) to do so with much fanfare. If (when) he doesn&#039;t solve the problem, he gets fired. Top down prevails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>More important now <span class="caps">IMO</span> than continuing to speculate on whether BJ is an incorrigible or redeemable buffoon is to observe and assess the styles and ways of the new mayoralty in London.</p>

	<p>As best I can tell, BJ seems to have adopted wholesale the Blairite innovations in spin and PR presentation, so we have lots of pics of BJ doing incidental things &#8211; jogging, cycling &#8211; with much instructing of officials to do what is expected of them in the New Order along with dire threats as to the fate that will befall them if they fail to come up with the goodies.</p>

	<p>All that has been welded on to pre-Thatcherite Tory habits, namely in government you don&#8217;t waste time on analysing problems or issues. What you do is to find some plausible person to solve the problem and appoint him (it is usually a him) to do so with much fanfare. If (when) he doesn&#8217;t solve the problem, he gets fired. Top down prevails.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/comment-page-2/#comment-238795</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Harry, there was a single ballot for the Mayoral, with two columns - mark an x in Column A for your first pref and an x in Column B for your second. Seems so much easier to have a single column and mark a &quot;1&quot; and a &quot;2&quot; (and why not a 3, 4, 5 etc.) no? But then I&#039;m used to Irish PR-STV so maybe that&#039;s just me.

So I imagine that the 40,000 rejected first ballots are people who botched the whole thing and thus had their whole vote rejected, whereas the 400,000 rejected second preferences may have had their first but not their second preference counted. But it&#039;s not entirely clear from the results page I linked too, certainly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No Harry, there was a single ballot for the Mayoral, with two columns &#8211; mark an x in Column A for your first pref and an x in Column B for your second. Seems so much easier to have a single column and mark a &#8220;1&#8221; and a &#8220;2&#8221; (and why not a 3, 4, 5 etc.) no? But then I&#8217;m used to Irish PR-STV so maybe that&#8217;s just me.</p>

	<p>So I imagine that the 40,000 rejected first ballots are people who botched the whole thing and thus had their whole vote rejected, whereas the 400,000 rejected second preferences may have had their first but not their second preference counted. But it&#8217;s not entirely clear from the results page I linked too, certainly.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/comment-page-2/#comment-238782</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This evening&#039;s news from London doesn&#039;t look to be an auspicious start to curbing violent crime:

A gunman has fired for a second time on armed police officers in a stand-off near the King&#039;s Road, Chelsea, a highly fashionable part of London - &quot;So far there are no injuries and no one has been arrested.&quot;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7386569.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This evening&#8217;s news from London doesn&#8217;t look to be an auspicious start to curbing violent crime:</p>

	<p>A gunman has fired for a second time on armed police officers in a stand-off near the King&#8217;s Road, Chelsea, a highly fashionable part of London &#8211; &#8220;So far there are no injuries and no one has been arrested.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7386569.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7386569.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/comment-page-2/#comment-238780</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The London Evening Standard is evidently devoting much regular pictorial coverage and reportage to the new London mayor:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/

We&#039;ve had pictures of Boris jogging and bicycling, laughing and looking mean. The lead is still on being especially tough on youth crime. Today&#039;s call is to set up 100 &quot;respect schools&quot; - Saturday courses where troubled teenagers can combine sport and academic subjects:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23482556-details/Boris+war+on+knife+gangs/article.do

Great. I hope it works. Twelve young men killed in London so far this year is a dozen too many.

What isn&#039;t encouraging is this kind of spin in one report - quoting: &quot;The meeting comes amid reports that Mr Johnson had put Britain&#039;s most senior policeman on notice to dramatically cut crime or face the axe.&quot;

The fact is that the London mayor can&#039;t sack the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police - only the government can do that and only the government can appoint the Commissioner. My guess is that if the Commissioner, or anyone else, knew where to find a silver bullet that could curb violent youth crime than it wouldn&#039;t be the problem that it is.

For any here sufficiently interested to keep up with the pics of Boris doing things and all the spin, I can only suggest bookmarking the webpage of: This is London, and dipping in from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The London Evening Standard is evidently devoting much regular pictorial coverage and reportage to the new London mayor:<br />
<a href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/</a></p>

	<p>We&#8217;ve had pictures of Boris jogging and bicycling, laughing and looking mean. The lead is still on being especially tough on youth crime. Today&#8217;s call is to set up 100 &#8220;respect schools&#8221; &#8211; Saturday courses where troubled teenagers can combine sport and academic subjects:<br />
<a href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23482556-details/Boris+war+on+knife+gangs/article.do" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23482556-details/Boris+war+on+knife+gangs/article.do</a></p>

	<p>Great. I hope it works. Twelve young men killed in London so far this year is a dozen too many.</p>

	<p>What isn&#8217;t encouraging is this kind of spin in one report &#8211; quoting: &#8220;The meeting comes amid reports that Mr Johnson had put Britain&#8217;s most senior policeman on notice to dramatically cut crime or face the axe.&#8221;</p>

	<p>The fact is that the London mayor can&#8217;t sack the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police &#8211; only the government can do that and only the government can appoint the Commissioner. My guess is that if the Commissioner, or anyone else, knew where to find a silver bullet that could curb violent youth crime than it wouldn&#8217;t be the problem that it is.</p>

	<p>For any here sufficiently interested to keep up with the pics of Boris doing things and all the spin, I can only suggest bookmarking the webpage of: This is London, and dipping in from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: harry b</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I can&#039;t get poole&#039;s link to work, but the context of the quote as he blocks it is, in fact, fairly damning.

I don&#039;t think Boris is stupid, though most of the kids I went to school with could have written those scripts if the kind of resources that went into Boris&#039;s education. But, as dsquared points out in an earlier post, plenty of smart people cannot manage. My worry about bob b&#039;s optimistic hypothesis is that Boris not only cannot manage, but can&#039;t be managed. But we&#039;ll see!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, I can&#8217;t get poole&#8217;s link to work, but the context of the quote as he blocks it is, in fact, fairly damning.</p>

	<p>I don&#8217;t think Boris is stupid, though most of the kids I went to school with could have written those scripts if the kind of resources that went into Boris&#8217;s education. But, as dsquared points out in an earlier post, plenty of smart people cannot manage. My worry about bob b&#8217;s optimistic hypothesis is that Boris not only cannot manage, but can&#8217;t be managed. But we&#8217;ll see!</p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/comment-page-2/#comment-238703</link>
		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 13:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I slightly misremembered the &#039;piccaninies&#039; article.  I didn&#039;t misremember the basic point that it was not expressing any racist view of Boris Johnson - as alleged by Ken&#039;s cronies - but making a satirical point against Tony Blair.  Does anyone disagree? 

Boris as TV presenter:  If I recall correctly, Boris wrote the scripts himself, and knows the subjects well.  Correct me if I am wrong (I&#039;m sure you will!)

5 Muslim votes per head:  I wouldn&#039;t claim that electoral fraud in Britain is confined to the Muslim community, but virtually all the recent cases have involved South Asians.  I don&#039;t think this is seriously in doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I slightly misremembered the &#8216;piccaninies&#8217; article.  I didn&#8217;t misremember the basic point that it was not expressing any racist view of Boris Johnson &#8211; as alleged by Ken&#8217;s cronies &#8211; but making a satirical point against Tony Blair.  Does anyone disagree?</p>

	<p>Boris as TV presenter:  If I recall correctly, Boris wrote the scripts himself, and knows the subjects well.  Correct me if I am wrong (I&#8217;m sure you will!)</p>

	<p>5 Muslim votes per head:  I wouldn&#8217;t claim that electoral fraud in Britain is confined to the Muslim community, but virtually all the recent cases have involved South Asians.  I don&#8217;t think this is seriously in doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/comment-page-2/#comment-238690</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;in spite of bob b’s rosy optimism&quot;

What I&#039;m saying is that David Cameron&#039;s close association with BJ - they even went to the same school - will be a restraining influence. If that restraining influence doesn&#039;t prove effective then the Conseravtives will surely pay a political price at the general election.

An interesting but neglected issue is the prospective influence of BJ&#039;s classical education - a 2:1 in classics at Oxford - on the governance of London. I mean, will BJ be taking a horse into the London general assembly on the grounds that Caligula set a compelling precedent?

I can foresee many brushing up on Suetonius: Lives of the Twelve Caesars, for guidance as to omens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;in spite of bob b&#8217;s rosy optimism&#8221;</p>

	<p>What I&#8217;m saying is that David Cameron&#8217;s close association with <span class="caps">BJ </span>- they even went to the same school &#8211; will be a restraining influence. If that restraining influence doesn&#8217;t prove effective then the Conseravtives will surely pay a political price at the general election.</p>

	<p>An interesting but neglected issue is the prospective influence of BJ&#8217;s classical education &#8211; a 2:1 in classics at Oxford &#8211; on the governance of London. I mean, will BJ be taking a horse into the London general assembly on the grounds that Caligula set a compelling precedent?</p>

	<p>I can foresee many brushing up on Suetonius: Lives of the Twelve Caesars, for guidance as to omens.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 08:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pure guesswork, but I should imagine the reason so many ballots were rejected because of an incorrectly cast second preference would be that people thought, having marked their first preference, they were then being asked to vote for more than one other candidate or to list all candidates in order of preference . . . ?
(&#039;Pure guesswork&#039; because having escaped from London a few years ago I no longer have to trudge down to Battersea Arts Centre every couple of years &amp; try to dodge the party activists trying to relieve me of my polling card outside the polling station . . .)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Pure guesswork, but I should imagine the reason so many ballots were rejected because of an incorrectly cast second preference would be that people thought, having marked their first preference, they were then being asked to vote for more than one other candidate or to list all candidates in order of preference . . . ?<br />
(&#8216;Pure guesswork&#8217; because having escaped from London a few years ago I no longer have to trudge down to Battersea Arts Centre every couple of years &#038; try to dodge the party activists trying to relieve me of my polling card outside the polling station . . .)</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/comment-page-2/#comment-238685</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 08:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because they thought &quot;it says second so it must be secondary&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Because they thought &#8220;it says second so it must be secondary&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: harry b</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/comment-page-2/#comment-238673</link>
		<dc:creator>harry b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 02:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, why did anyone vote second choice for anyone but KL or BJ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Also, why did anyone vote second choice for anyone but KL or BJ?</p>
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		<title>By: harry b</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/comment-page-2/#comment-238672</link>
		<dc:creator>harry b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 02:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>james --thanks. They list rejected 1st choice votes and rejected second choice votes separately. Did each voter have two separate papers? I don&#039;t understand exactly what didn&#039;t get counted. The figures do, indeed, look extremely high, in both cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>james&#8212;thanks. They list rejected 1st choice votes and rejected second choice votes separately. Did each voter have two separate papers? I don&#8217;t understand exactly what didn&#8217;t get counted. The figures do, indeed, look extremely high, in both cases.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the figures here, including the second preferences for all the candidates:  

http://www.london.gov.uk/gla/elections/mayoral/

The BNP was the first or second choice of fully 8%.

However, with regard to the electoral system, look at the numbers of spoiled votes (450,000) and votes with no second preference (400,000). Combined they almost match Livingstone&#039;s first preference vote. Seems very high, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Check out the figures here, including the second preferences for all the candidates:</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.london.gov.uk/gla/elections/mayoral/" rel="nofollow">http://www.london.gov.uk/gla/elections/mayoral/</a></p>

	<p>The <span class="caps">BNP</span> was the first or second choice of fully 8%.</p>

	<p>However, with regard to the electoral system, look at the numbers of spoiled votes (450,000) and votes with no second preference (400,000). Combined they almost match Livingstone&#8217;s first preference vote. Seems very high, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/comment-page-2/#comment-238649</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this to be the way of the future? Readers may be interested to read this in the New Statesman on 3 May:

&quot;Claire Provost, reporting on a demonstration outside City Hall on the night of the London mayoral count, finds herself put in a pen in by police. A case of democracy in action?&quot;
http://www.newstatesman.com/200805030006</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Is this to be the way of the future? Readers may be interested to read this in the New Statesman on 3 May:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Claire Provost, reporting on a demonstration outside City Hall on the night of the London mayoral count, finds herself put in a pen in by police. A case of democracy in action?&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/200805030006" rel="nofollow">http://www.newstatesman.com/200805030006</a></p>
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		<title>By: harry b</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree that some people get a pass. But for different reasons. In the run up to the 2000 election EVERYBODY knew that New Labour was doing whatever it could to make sure Livingstone lost -- he said, during the campaign, that if dismembered bodies were discovered in his house with his fingerprints all over the axe, he thought most people would suspect that he had been set up by New Labour, which was right. This was 15 years after the GLC had been abolished for no apparent reason other than his media-savvy and effective leadership of it. Boris Johnson?

And engels comment seems right to me -- there is a big difference between the comment Livingstone made in response to someone harrassing him (a social peer, what&#039;s more) and Johnson&#039;s history which dates back a long way (to the Bullingdon Club -- whose behaviour, by the way, has been stunningly underplayed by the press, does no-one from Oxford at that time remember what they used to do? Kids from &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; school used to go to prison for less, but they were oiks of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, I agree that some people get a pass. But for different reasons. In the run up to the 2000 election <span class="caps">EVERYBODY</span> knew that New Labour was doing whatever it could to make sure Livingstone lost&#8212;he said, during the campaign, that if dismembered bodies were discovered in his house with his fingerprints all over the axe, he thought most people would suspect that he had been set up by New Labour, which was right. This was 15 years after the <span class="caps">GLC</span> had been abolished for no apparent reason other than his media-savvy and effective leadership of it. Boris Johnson?</p>

	<p>And engels comment seems right to me&#8212;there is a big difference between the comment Livingstone made in response to someone harrassing him (a social peer, what&#8217;s more) and Johnson&#8217;s history which dates back a long way (to the Bullingdon Club&#8212;whose behaviour, by the way, has been stunningly underplayed by the press, does no-one from Oxford at that time remember what they used to do? Kids from <i>my</i> school used to go to prison for less, but they were oiks of course).</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
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		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Stigand: On one occasion while being harassed by a reporter Livingstone lashed out with a comment which was insensitive but not racist. I affect to see no significant difference between this incident and Johnson&#039;s lifelong litany of gaffes, insults and casual racism, expressed not only verbally but in published articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Shorter Stigand: On one occasion while being harassed by a reporter Livingstone lashed out with a comment which was insensitive but not racist. I affect to see no significant difference between this incident and Johnson&#8217;s lifelong litany of gaffes, insults and casual racism, expressed not only verbally but in published articles.</p>
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