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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240523</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 22:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bate says AFM doesn&#039;t get money from tobacco companies.

Okay.  Where does AFM get funding from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bate says <span class="caps">AFM</span> doesn&#8217;t get money from tobacco companies.</p>

	<p>Okay.  Where does <span class="caps">AFM</span> get funding from?</p>
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		<title>By: J F Beck</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240402</link>
		<dc:creator>J F Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 04:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of having a whinge about my whinging why don&#039;t you try addressing some of the issues?

How about supporting your claim that the political right mounted a campaign, picked up by the MSM, that caused the World Health Organization “to replace the head of its antimalaria division and announce changes in policies”?

And if I&#039;m writing silly stuff as you claim why not address my points rather than refuse to post my comments? You&#039;re scared to discuss DDT because you know damn near everything you write on the subject misrepresents the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Instead of having a whinge about my whinging why don&#8217;t you try addressing some of the issues?</p>

	<p>How about supporting your claim that the political right mounted a campaign, picked up by the <span class="caps">MSM</span>, that caused the World Health Organization &#8220;to replace the head of its antimalaria division and announce changes in policies&#8221;?</p>

	<p>And if I&#8217;m writing silly stuff as you claim why not address my points rather than refuse to post my comments? You&#8217;re scared to discuss <span class="caps">DDT</span> because you know damn near everything you write on the subject misrepresents the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240400</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 04:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You should try Quiggin’s approach whereby he waits to respond here at CT until the page rolls over &quot;

As anyone can see, the gap between comment and response was 4 hours. Moronic whinges like this are one of the many reasons I don&#039;t bother with you, and regret it when I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;You should try Quiggin&#8217;s approach whereby he waits to respond here at CT until the page rolls over &#8221;</p>

	<p>As anyone can see, the gap between comment and response was 4 hours. Moronic whinges like this are one of the many reasons I don&#8217;t bother with you, and regret it when I do.</p>
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		<title>By: J F Beck</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240354</link>
		<dc:creator>J F Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than clutter up CT with stuff some will find objectionable, here&#039;s the link:

http://rwdb.blogspot.com/2008/05/hackademics.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Rather than clutter up CT with stuff some will find objectionable, here&#8217;s the link:</p>

	<p><a href="http://rwdb.blogspot.com/2008/05/hackademics.html" rel="nofollow">http://rwdb.blogspot.com/2008/05/hackademics.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: J F Beck</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240327</link>
		<dc:creator>J F Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you posted the comment at 10 pm WST it made it out of moderation in near record time – much better than your recent 24 hours plus moderation efforts. Regardless, your Prospect article is rubbish, as is your response.

You should try Quiggin&#039;s approach whereby he waits to respond here at CT until the page rolls over and refuses to post my comment at his own site because it&#039;s silly. Funny how you guys don&#039;t really want to discuss this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you posted the comment at 10 pm <span class="caps">WST</span> it made it out of moderation in near record time &#8211; much better than your recent 24 hours plus moderation efforts. Regardless, your Prospect article is rubbish, as is your response.</p>

	<p>You should try Quiggin&#8217;s approach whereby he waits to respond here at CT until the page rolls over and refuses to post my comment at his own site because it&#8217;s silly. Funny how you guys don&#8217;t really want to discuss this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Lambert</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240326</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I approved your comment around midnight, before I went to bed. That&#039;s 10pm WST, eight hours before you claim not to have seen it.  I think most people here are bored with your games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I approved your comment around midnight, before I went to bed. That&#8217;s 10pm <span class="caps">WST</span>, eight hours before you claim not to have seen it.  I think most people here are bored with your games.</p>
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		<title>By: J F Beck</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240325</link>
		<dc:creator>J F Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim Lambert,

My comment was not up at 6:00 am WST today but appeared shortly thereafter. Like just about everything you write about DDT your response is rubbish. When I get a chance I&#039;ll dismantle it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Tim Lambert,</p>

	<p>My comment was not up at 6:00 am <span class="caps">WST</span> today but appeared shortly thereafter. Like just about everything you write about <span class="caps">DDT</span> your response is rubbish. When I get a chance I&#8217;ll dismantle it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Lambert</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240309</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beck&#039;s comment had been out of moderation for eight hours when he claimed that it was still in moderation.  And it appeared in the sidebar when I approved it.

If anyone cares, I replied to his comment &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/05/article_in_prospect_on_rachel.php#comment-889686&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Beck&#8217;s comment had been out of moderation for eight hours when he claimed that it was still in moderation.  And it appeared in the sidebar when I approved it.</p>

	<p>If anyone cares, I replied to his comment <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/05/article_in_prospect_on_rachel.php#comment-889686" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: J F Beck</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240277</link>
		<dc:creator>J F Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #19: Lambert has now posted my comment having held it long enough that it doesn&#039;t appear in &quot;recent comments&quot; in the sidebar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Re #19: Lambert has now posted my comment having held it long enough that it doesn&#8217;t appear in &#8220;recent comments&#8221; in the sidebar.</p>
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		<title>By: J F Beck</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240276</link>
		<dc:creator>J F Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Quiggin,

From the &quot;strident&quot; WSJ article you link to (#18) but don&#039;t quote:

&quot;Carson cannot be blamed directly for these deaths. She didn&#039;t urge total bans in &quot;Silent Spring.&quot; Instead, on the single page obliquely acknowledging DDT as an anti-malarial agent, she writes, &quot;Practical advice should be &#039;Spray as little as you possibly can&#039; rather than &#039;Spray to the limit of your capacity.&#039;

&quot;In the National Archives exhibit, Carson is described as &#039;a passionate voice for protecting the environment and human health.&#039; Her concerns about the effects of insect death on bird populations were well-founded. But threats to human health were central to her argument, and Carson was wrong about those. Despite massive exposure in many populations over several decades, there is no decisive evidence that DDT causes cancer in people, and it is unforgivable that she overlooked the enormous boon of DDT for malaria control in her own time.&quot;

Surely among the many claimed WSJ articles you can find something that actually supports the claims made in your Prospect article.

Interestingly, I lodged essentially the same comment (#17) at your site and Lambert&#039;s but the Crooked Timber comment is the only one to make it out of moderation. Funny that.

Your Prospect article is, like pretty much everything you write about DDT, close to right but filled with misrepresentations. It&#039;s no wonder you choose not to defend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>John Quiggin,</p>

	<p>From the &#8220;strident&#8221; <span class="caps">WSJ</span> article you link to (#18) but don&#8217;t quote:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Carson cannot be blamed directly for these deaths. She didn&#8217;t urge total bans in &#8220;Silent Spring.&#8221; Instead, on the single page obliquely acknowledging <span class="caps">DDT</span> as an anti-malarial agent, she writes, &#8220;Practical advice should be &#8216;Spray as little as you possibly can&#8217; rather than &#8216;Spray to the limit of your capacity.&#8217;</p>

	<p>&#8220;In the National Archives exhibit, Carson is described as &#8216;a passionate voice for protecting the environment and human health.&#8217; Her concerns about the effects of insect death on bird populations were well-founded. But threats to human health were central to her argument, and Carson was wrong about those. Despite massive exposure in many populations over several decades, there is no decisive evidence that <span class="caps">DDT</span> causes cancer in people, and it is unforgivable that she overlooked the enormous boon of <span class="caps">DDT</span> for malaria control in her own time.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Surely among the many claimed <span class="caps">WSJ</span> articles you can find something that actually supports the claims made in your Prospect article.</p>

	<p>Interestingly, I lodged essentially the same comment (#17) at your site and Lambert&#8217;s but the Crooked Timber comment is the only one to make it out of moderation. Funny that.</p>

	<p>Your Prospect article is, like pretty much everything you write about <span class="caps">DDT</span>, close to right but filled with misrepresentations. It&#8217;s no wonder you choose not to defend it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240184</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JFB, I stopped after the first rhetorical question

&quot;an you please quote from and link to some of the many strident articles at Fox News and the WSJ claiming Rachel Carson&quot;

As you say, it should be easy and it is, so easy that I wonder you didn&#039;t try it yourself. First hit on WSJ+Rachel Carson+DDT Ban

http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110009968

write-off: Rachel Carson&#039;s ideas are still popular, with deadly effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">JFB</span>, I stopped after the first rhetorical question</p>

	<p>&#8220;an you please quote from and link to some of the many strident articles at Fox News and the <span class="caps">WSJ</span> claiming Rachel Carson&#8221;</p>

	<p>As you say, it should be easy and it is, so easy that I wonder you didn&#8217;t try it yourself. First hit on <span class="caps">WSJ</span>+Rachel Carson+DDT Ban</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110009968" rel="nofollow">http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110009968</a></p>

	<p>write-off: Rachel Carson&#8217;s ideas are still popular, with deadly effect.</p>
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		<title>By: J F Beck</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-240156</link>
		<dc:creator>J F Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Messrs Quiggin and Lambert,

Can you please quote from and link to some of the many strident articles at Fox News and the WSJ claiming Rachel Carson is responsible “for a ban on the use of the insecticide DDT (Dichloro-Diphenyl-Trichloroethane) which allegedly halted a campaign that was about to eradicate malaria, and blame her for millions of deaths from malaria in the Third World”? Since there are apparently lots of such articles the task should only a take a few minutes for experienced Googlers such as yourselves.

It would also be helpful if you could support your claim that the political right mounted a campaign, picked up by the MSM, that caused the World Health Organization “to replace the head of its antimalaria division and announce changes in policies”. Perhaps the WHO brought in new personnel hoping the anti-malaria program would start producing results.

You say DDT is currently used to “spray interior house walls or to impregnate bednets”. Is the impregnation of bednets a common practice?

How do you account for the following in non-right-wing sources – are the authors perhaps secretly funded by evil tobacco interests?

Fred Pearce, New Scientist:

“It seems millions of lives have been lost because health experts threw away their best weapon. Are environmentalists to blame? There is no doubt that DDT was misused as an agricultural pesticide and seriously damaged wildlife. In that sense Carson was right. But regulators did not recognise that spraying indoors was different. And an environmental outcry against DDT helped to ensure that the early fears about its effect on human health became entrenched dogma long after they had been proved unfounded.”

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19626242.000&amp;feedId=health_rss20

Apoorva Mandavilli, Nature Medicine:

“In theory, any country is free to use DDT. The Stockholm Convention of 2001 sought a global ban on DDT, but many countries and scientists argued against the ban, citing its value in malaria control. The final treaty made an exemption for DDT’s use in public health, but called for countries to gradually phase out the pesticide.

“Still, in places where malaria was still endemic, the treaty spelled disaster.

“Most African nations are heavily dependent on foreign aid and can ill afford to cross a line drawn by donor agencies.

“USAID never banned DDT outright, for instance, but nor did it fund DDT’s purchase – which amounts to the same thing.”

http://0-proquest.umi.com.prospero.murdoch.edu.au:80/pqdlink?did=1089565451&amp;Fmt=6&amp;clientId=20829&amp;RQT=309&amp;VName=PQD

John Balbus of Environmental Defense to a USAID official:

“As the organization that led the successful campaign to ban use of DDT in the United States in the early 1970s, we have read with concern recent reports that US AID is unwilling to consider even limited use of DDT in anti-malaria programs in developing countries. According to the New York Times Magazine, you recently stated that part of the reason US AID doesn’t finance DDT is that doing so would require a battle for public opinion. ‘You’d have to explain to everybody why this is really O.K. and safe every time you do it.”

http://www.edf.org/documents/5046_DDT-letterUSAID.pdf

Michael Finkel, National Geographic:

“Soon after the program collapsed, mosquito control lost access to its crucial tool, DDT. The problem was overuse—not by malaria fighters but by farmers, especially cotton growers, trying to protect their crops. The spray was so cheap that many times the necessary doses were sometimes applied. The insecticide accumulated in the soil and tainted watercourses. Though nontoxic to humans, DDT harmed peregrine falcons, sea lions, and salmon. In 1962 Rachel Carson published Silent Spring, documenting this abuse and painting so damning a picture that the chemical was eventually outlawed by most of the world for agricultural use. Exceptions were made for malaria control, but DDT became nearly impossible to procure. ‘The ban on DDT,’ says Gwadz of the National Institutes of Health, ‘may have killed 20 million children.’”

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0707/feature1/text4.html

Finally, Carson damned DDT as carcinogenic (in Silent Spring claiming a DDT user developed and died of cancer over a period of months having used DDT three times) and implied it was a product of chemical weapons development. Can you point to a single example of Carson advocating DDT use in any circumstance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Messrs Quiggin and Lambert,</p>

	<p>Can you please quote from and link to some of the many strident articles at Fox News and the <span class="caps">WSJ</span> claiming Rachel Carson is responsible &#8220;for a ban on the use of the insecticide <span class="caps">DDT </span>(Dichloro-Diphenyl-Trichloroethane) which allegedly halted a campaign that was about to eradicate malaria, and blame her for millions of deaths from malaria in the Third World&#8221;? Since there are apparently lots of such articles the task should only a take a few minutes for experienced Googlers such as yourselves.</p>

	<p>It would also be helpful if you could support your claim that the political right mounted a campaign, picked up by the <span class="caps">MSM</span>, that caused the World Health Organization &#8220;to replace the head of its antimalaria division and announce changes in policies&#8221;. Perhaps the <span class="caps">WHO</span> brought in new personnel hoping the anti-malaria program would start producing results.</p>

	<p>You say <span class="caps">DDT</span> is currently used to &#8220;spray interior house walls or to impregnate bednets&#8221;. Is the impregnation of bednets a common practice?</p>

	<p>How do you account for the following in non-right-wing sources &#8211; are the authors perhaps secretly funded by evil tobacco interests?</p>

	<p>Fred Pearce, New Scientist:</p>

	<p>&#8220;It seems millions of lives have been lost because health experts threw away their best weapon. Are environmentalists to blame? There is no doubt that <span class="caps">DDT</span> was misused as an agricultural pesticide and seriously damaged wildlife. In that sense Carson was right. But regulators did not recognise that spraying indoors was different. And an environmental outcry against <span class="caps">DDT</span> helped to ensure that the early fears about its effect on human health became entrenched dogma long after they had been proved unfounded.&#8221;</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19626242.000&#038;feedId=health_rss20" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19626242.000&#038;feedId=health_rss20</a></p>

	<p>Apoorva Mandavilli, Nature Medicine:</p>

	<p>&#8220;In theory, any country is free to use <span class="caps">DDT</span>. The Stockholm Convention of 2001 sought a global ban on <span class="caps">DDT</span>, but many countries and scientists argued against the ban, citing its value in malaria control. The final treaty made an exemption for <span class="caps">DDT</span>&#8217;s use in public health, but called for countries to gradually phase out the pesticide.</p>

	<p>&#8220;Still, in places where malaria was still endemic, the treaty spelled disaster.</p>

	<p>&#8220;Most African nations are heavily dependent on foreign aid and can ill afford to cross a line drawn by donor agencies.</p>

	<p>&#8220;USAID never banned <span class="caps">DDT</span> outright, for instance, but nor did it fund <span class="caps">DDT</span>&#8217;s purchase &#8211; which amounts to the same thing.&#8221;</p>

	<p><a href="http://0-proquest.umi.com.prospero.murdoch.edu.au:80/pqdlink?did=1089565451&#038;Fmt=6&#038;clientId=20829&#038;RQT=309&#038;VName=PQD" rel="nofollow">http://0-proquest.umi.com.prospero.murdoch.edu.au:80/pqdlink?did=1089565451&#038;Fmt=6&#038;clientId=20829&#038;RQT=309&#038;VName=PQD</a></p>

	<p>John Balbus of Environmental Defense to a <span class="caps">USAID</span> official:</p>

	<p>&#8220;As the organization that led the successful campaign to ban use of <span class="caps">DDT</span> in the United States in the early 1970s, we have read with concern recent reports that <span class="caps">US AID</span> is unwilling to consider even limited use of <span class="caps">DDT</span> in anti-malaria programs in developing countries. According to the New York Times Magazine, you recently stated that part of the reason <span class="caps">US AID</span> doesn&#8217;t finance <span class="caps">DDT</span> is that doing so would require a battle for public opinion. &#8216;You&#8217;d have to explain to everybody why this is really O.K. and safe every time you do it.&#8221;</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.edf.org/documents/5046_DDT-letterUSAID.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.edf.org/documents/5046_DDT-letterUSAID.pdf</a></p>

	<p>Michael Finkel, National Geographic:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Soon after the program collapsed, mosquito control lost access to its crucial tool, <span class="caps">DDT</span>. The problem was overuse&#8212;not by malaria fighters but by farmers, especially cotton growers, trying to protect their crops. The spray was so cheap that many times the necessary doses were sometimes applied. The insecticide accumulated in the soil and tainted watercourses. Though nontoxic to humans, <span class="caps">DDT</span> harmed peregrine falcons, sea lions, and salmon. In 1962 Rachel Carson published Silent Spring, documenting this abuse and painting so damning a picture that the chemical was eventually outlawed by most of the world for agricultural use. Exceptions were made for malaria control, but <span class="caps">DDT</span> became nearly impossible to procure. &#8216;The ban on <span class="caps">DDT</span>,&#8217; says Gwadz of the National Institutes of Health, &#8216;may have killed 20 million children.&#8217;&#8221;</p>

	<p><a href="http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0707/feature1/text4.html" rel="nofollow">http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0707/feature1/text4.html</a></p>

	<p>Finally, Carson damned <span class="caps">DDT</span> as carcinogenic (in Silent Spring claiming a <span class="caps">DDT</span> user developed and died of cancer over a period of months having used <span class="caps">DDT</span> three times) and implied it was a product of chemical weapons development. Can you point to a single example of Carson advocating <span class="caps">DDT</span> use in any circumstance?</p>
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		<title>By: JP Stormcrow</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-239903</link>
		<dc:creator>JP Stormcrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The early mainstream push to marginalize Carson is evident in these excerpts from her &lt;i&gt;obituary&lt;/i&gt; in Time in 1964: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;To its author [Silent Spring] was more than a book; it became a crusade. And, despite her scientific training, she rejected facts that weakened her case, while using almost any material, regardless of authenticity, that seemed to support her thesis. Her critics, who included many eminent scientists, objected that the book&#039;s exaggerations and emotional tone played on the vague fears of city dwellers, the bulk of the U.S. population, who have little contact with uncontrolled nature and do not know how unpleasantly hostile it generally is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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&lt;blockquote&gt;Laws were proposed on local, state and federal levels to put rigid restrictions on the use of pesticides. Some of them were so sweeping that if they had been passed and enforced, they might very well have caused serious harm. In advanced modern societies, agriculture and public health can no longer manage without chemical pesticides.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The early mainstream push to marginalize Carson is evident in these excerpts from her <i>obituary</i> in Time in 1964:</p>

	<p><blockquote>To its author [Silent Spring] was more than a book; it became a crusade. And, despite her scientific training, she rejected facts that weakened her case, while using almost any material, regardless of authenticity, that seemed to support her thesis. Her critics, who included many eminent scientists, objected that the book&#8217;s exaggerations and emotional tone played on the vague fears of city dwellers, the bulk of the U.S. population, who have little contact with uncontrolled nature and do not know how unpleasantly hostile it generally is.</blockquote></p>

	<p>and</p>

	<p><blockquote>Laws were proposed on local, state and federal levels to put rigid restrictions on the use of pesticides. Some of them were so sweeping that if they had been passed and enforced, they might very well have caused serious harm. In advanced modern societies, agriculture and public health can no longer manage without chemical pesticides.</blockquote></p>
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		<title>By: foolishmortal</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/13/in-praise-of-rachel-carson/comment-page-1/#comment-239901</link>
		<dc:creator>foolishmortal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should, in fairness, add: if my concerns are bullshit, give &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt; a kick in the ass, and hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I should, in fairness, add: if my concerns are bullshit, give <i>me</i> a kick in the ass, and hard.</p>
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		<title>By: kharris</title>
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		<dc:creator>kharris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if I understand this episode correctly, the attack on Carson over DDT was the model for the &quot;junk science&quot; movement.  Yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So, if I understand this episode correctly, the attack on Carson over <span class="caps">DDT</span> was the model for the &#8220;junk science&#8221; movement.  Yes?</p>
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