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		<title>By: michael e sullivan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/23/walk-score/comment-page-2/#comment-240933</link>
		<dc:creator>michael e sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oddly, given the commentary here, when I compared my own last few locations, my suburban location near the center of the town got a better walk score than my current home, right in the center of an old village part of a small city.

I think my current place is more walkable by my own standards, due to factors discussed in 11.  lots of places to go in my old neighborhood that I didn&#039;t really want to go to, but others might.

Also, I think my suburban location was getting some points for being on a bus line that is largely useless except for commuting to the nearest downtowns, while the buses in my current location take me pretty much anywhere I&#039;d want to go in new haven.  Also, the grocery store was somewhat closer in my suburban neighborhood, but still too far to actually walk with a couple bags of groceries, yet only 1 minute closer by car.

But in any case, here&#039;s an example where the suburbs don&#039;t necessarily do worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>oddly, given the commentary here, when I compared my own last few locations, my suburban location near the center of the town got a better walk score than my current home, right in the center of an old village part of a small city.</p>

	<p>I think my current place is more walkable by my own standards, due to factors discussed in 11.  lots of places to go in my old neighborhood that I didn&#8217;t really want to go to, but others might.</p>

	<p>Also, I think my suburban location was getting some points for being on a bus line that is largely useless except for commuting to the nearest downtowns, while the buses in my current location take me pretty much anywhere I&#8217;d want to go in new haven.  Also, the grocery store was somewhat closer in my suburban neighborhood, but still too far to actually walk with a couple bags of groceries, yet only 1 minute closer by car.</p>

	<p>But in any case, here&#8217;s an example where the suburbs don&#8217;t necessarily do worse.</p>
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		<title>By: reason</title>
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		<dc:creator>reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 07:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#43
I live in Germany and in confused Park with parking lot, didn&#039;t know about the public library in the center of town (3 blocks from where I live) etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#43<br />
I live in Germany and in confused Park with parking lot, didn&#8217;t know about the public library in the center of town (3 blocks from where I live) etc.</p>
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		<title>By: reason</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/23/walk-score/comment-page-2/#comment-240902</link>
		<dc:creator>reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 07:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;do you have any reason to believe that there’s a reserve of pent-up demand for more walkable housing that’s not being met by the market?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The high price of land in these neighbourhoods?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><blockquote>do you have any reason to believe that there&#8217;s a reserve of pent-up demand for more walkable housing that&#8217;s not being met by the market?</blockquote></p>

	<p>The high price of land in these neighbourhoods?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Simon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/23/walk-score/comment-page-2/#comment-240835</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 17:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zamfir--well, if this thread is actually about environmentalism, then I won&#039;t comment further.  But Jon&#039;s original post certainly didn&#039;t suggest that a green lifestyle was the whole point of walkability.  As for suburban-style roads and parking lots, I don&#039;t see how they adversely affect the people who choose to avoid them by living in walkable neighborhoods.  Such neighborhoods almost always lack that sort of thing, because the land is too expensive to waste on them.

Finally, regarding social separation, I gather that what you&#039;re getting at is that gentrification of poorer neighborhoods is a major driver of social mixing.  I agree, but I&#039;m not convinced that the correlation between poorer neighborhoods and walkability is particularly strong.  For one thing, poorer communities are often denuded of the kinds of amenities that make communities walkable--to say nothing of the effects of urban crime on walkability.  And conversely, plenty of brand new, highly walkable &quot;new urbanist&quot; neighborhoods are springing up, geared towards thoroughly unmixed middle-class inhabitants.    

Again, though, Jon&#039;s posting didn&#039;t discuss any of these alleged externalities.  His posting was basically of the form, &quot;see how easy it is to walk to stuff from my home--here&#039;s a Website that&#039;ll tell you how your home compares with other people&#039;s by that criterion.&quot;  To me, that&#039;s just a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobos_in_Paradise&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bobo&lt;/a&gt; version of, &quot;see how spacious my home is--here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zillow.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; that&#039;ll tell you how your home compares with other people&#039;s by that criterion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Zamfir&#8212;well, if this thread is actually about environmentalism, then I won&#8217;t comment further.  But Jon&#8217;s original post certainly didn&#8217;t suggest that a green lifestyle was the whole point of walkability.  As for suburban-style roads and parking lots, I don&#8217;t see how they adversely affect the people who choose to avoid them by living in walkable neighborhoods.  Such neighborhoods almost always lack that sort of thing, because the land is too expensive to waste on them.</p>

	<p>Finally, regarding social separation, I gather that what you&#8217;re getting at is that gentrification of poorer neighborhoods is a major driver of social mixing.  I agree, but I&#8217;m not convinced that the correlation between poorer neighborhoods and walkability is particularly strong.  For one thing, poorer communities are often denuded of the kinds of amenities that make communities walkable&#8212;to say nothing of the effects of urban crime on walkability.  And conversely, plenty of brand new, highly walkable &#8220;new urbanist&#8221; neighborhoods are springing up, geared towards thoroughly unmixed middle-class inhabitants.</p>

	<p>Again, though, Jon&#8217;s posting didn&#8217;t discuss any of these alleged externalities.  His posting was basically of the form, &#8220;see how easy it is to walk to stuff from my home&#8212;here&#8217;s a Website that&#8217;ll tell you how your home compares with other people&#8217;s by that criterion.&#8221;  To me, that&#8217;s just a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobos_in_Paradise" rel="nofollow">bobo</a> version of, &#8220;see how spacious my home is&#8212;here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.zillow.com/" rel="nofollow">Website</a> that&#8217;ll tell you how your home compares with other people&#8217;s by that criterion.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Great Zamfir</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/23/walk-score/comment-page-2/#comment-240822</link>
		<dc:creator>Great Zamfir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 09:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Simon, I am not entirely convinced by the negative externality thing either, but I can make a guess:

Neg Ext 1: Car use. Cars produce CO2 and smog, and dependency on nasty oil states, and these are perhaps not fully incorporated in the price.

Neg Ext2: Roads, parking lots etc. These are ugly, and that&#039;s a definite negative externality. People do not pay for them on an individual basis, so they might by over-abundant. Lastly they take up valuable space, but that might be priced-in in house prices.

Neg  ext 3: car dependency leads to social separation, and that might be bad. It seems this is the point people are worried about most. Of course, if &#039;walkable&#039; regions become 100% yuppified or Crookified, separation is back again, but at current levels a movements of middle-class people to walkable regions might increase mixing. 

Am I missing an &#039;externality&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dan Simon, I am not entirely convinced by the negative externality thing either, but I can make a guess:</p>

	<p>Neg Ext 1: Car use. Cars produce <span class="caps">CO2</span> and smog, and dependency on nasty oil states, and these are perhaps not fully incorporated in the price.</p>

	<p>Neg Ext2: Roads, parking lots etc. These are ugly, and that&#8217;s a definite negative externality. People do not pay for them on an individual basis, so they might by over-abundant. Lastly they take up valuable space, but that might be priced-in in house prices.</p>

	<p>Neg  ext 3: car dependency leads to social separation, and that might be bad. It seems this is the point people are worried about most. Of course, if &#8216;walkable&#8217; regions become 100% yuppified or Crookified, separation is back again, but at current levels a movements of middle-class people to walkable regions might increase mixing.</p>

	<p>Am I missing an &#8216;externality&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Simon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/23/walk-score/comment-page-2/#comment-240819</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 07:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand the &quot;negative externality&quot; argument at all.  In the cities I&#039;m familiar with, neighborhoods with a high &quot;walk score&quot; are considerably denser than those with a low &quot;walk score&quot;, with smaller, more expensive (for their size) homes.  That is, concentrations of convenient businesses and facilities raise the value of surrounding homes, encouraging developers to build more, smaller ones to maximize their profits.

While some low-density neighborhoods no doubt use zoning laws to keep themselves the way they are, I see no evidence of a lack of willingness on the part of city planners to work around them to create high-density urban areas with lots of high-tax-revenue businesses.  If there&#039;s a limit to this process, it&#039;s presumably the number of businesses and facilities that a given urban area can afford to support.

In short, the market seems to have no trouble catering to the public&#039;s preferred tradeoffs between walkability and other desirable features.  The vast expanses of unwalkable suburbia in most cities appear to me to be a product of people&#039;s willingness to sacrifice walkability for other features, such as space, quiet and seclusion, rather than of zoning constraints, and I don&#039;t see how they interfere with anyone else&#039;s desire for a more walkable environment.

Harry or Theo, do you have any reason to believe that there&#039;s a reserve of pent-up demand for more walkable housing that&#039;s not being met by the market?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t understand the &#8220;negative externality&#8221; argument at all.  In the cities I&#8217;m familiar with, neighborhoods with a high &#8220;walk score&#8221; are considerably denser than those with a low &#8220;walk score&#8221;, with smaller, more expensive (for their size) homes.  That is, concentrations of convenient businesses and facilities raise the value of surrounding homes, encouraging developers to build more, smaller ones to maximize their profits.</p>

	<p>While some low-density neighborhoods no doubt use zoning laws to keep themselves the way they are, I see no evidence of a lack of willingness on the part of city planners to work around them to create high-density urban areas with lots of high-tax-revenue businesses.  If there&#8217;s a limit to this process, it&#8217;s presumably the number of businesses and facilities that a given urban area can afford to support.</p>

	<p>In short, the market seems to have no trouble catering to the public&#8217;s preferred tradeoffs between walkability and other desirable features.  The vast expanses of unwalkable suburbia in most cities appear to me to be a product of people&#8217;s willingness to sacrifice walkability for other features, such as space, quiet and seclusion, rather than of zoning constraints, and I don&#8217;t see how they interfere with anyone else&#8217;s desire for a more walkable environment.</p>

	<p>Harry or Theo, do you have any reason to believe that there&#8217;s a reserve of pent-up demand for more walkable housing that&#8217;s not being met by the market?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Belmont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Belmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 07:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#49
One extends the understanding that you&#039;re not so leery of exactly feeling like Tyrone Slothrop as fording the Autobahn in not much more than new shoes. 
A daunting prospect for me as well today, and yet in 1965 it wasn&#039;t unthinkable to prove yourself by that, say if you weren&#039;t German across the Nimitz nee 17 south of Berkeley where it went to the Bay Bridge merge and was something like 8 lanes wide or maybe 101 north of Redwood City crossing the Bayshore at a dead run with big burly specimens of mid-60&#039;s Detroit steel barreling toward you a little or often more than a little over their center of gravity inertia momentum sudden stop and swerve integration capability.
Rather than not wanting to feel like Tyrone Slothrop himself &lt;i&gt;per se&lt;/i&gt;, who in his role as Everyman may not be, ultimately, condemnable for anything other than simply &lt;i&gt;being&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#49<br />
One extends the understanding that you&#8217;re not so leery of exactly feeling like Tyrone Slothrop as fording the Autobahn in not much more than new shoes.<br />
A daunting prospect for me as well today, and yet in 1965 it wasn&#8217;t unthinkable to prove yourself by that, say if you weren&#8217;t German across the Nimitz nee 17 south of Berkeley where it went to the Bay Bridge merge and was something like 8 lanes wide or maybe 101 north of Redwood City crossing the Bayshore at a dead run with big burly specimens of mid-60&#8217;s Detroit steel barreling toward you a little or often more than a little over their center of gravity inertia momentum sudden stop and swerve integration capability.<br />
Rather than not wanting to feel like Tyrone Slothrop himself <i>per se</i>, who in his role as Everyman may not be, ultimately, condemnable for anything other than simply <i>being</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: sara</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/23/walk-score/comment-page-1/#comment-240813</link>
		<dc:creator>sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also observed that the people who live in these exurbs, even if they do not use cars but take public transportation, prefer to wait for the bus rather than walk even a block or two. I don&#039;t think this can be attributed to &quot;laziness.&quot; They rightly perceive space inimical to pedestrians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve also observed that the people who live in these exurbs, even if they do not use cars but take public transportation, prefer to wait for the bus rather than walk even a block or two. I don&#8217;t think this can be attributed to &#8220;laziness.&#8221; They rightly perceive space inimical to pedestrians.</p>
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		<title>By: sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A feature of &quot;walkability&quot; not taken into account is  the width of the streets. Streets laid out in recently developed areas (last 30 years; in my area, exurbs) were designed for the convenience of cars, not pedestrians: extra wide, with extra merging space at entries and intersections, which intimidates pedestrians, especially if the pedestrians are at all slow. The huge streets encourage drivers to drive faster.

The crossing lights do not last long enough, and I&#039;ve even heard the rumor that the buttons to call for crossing lights are not connected to the lights (like the &quot;close door&quot; buttons in elevators). 

I would rather not cross one of these exurban roads, feeling like Tyrone Slothrop (the character in Pynchon&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Gravity&#039;s Rainbow&lt;/i&gt;) when he blindly runs across a German Autobahn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A feature of &#8220;walkability&#8221; not taken into account is  the width of the streets. Streets laid out in recently developed areas (last 30 years; in my area, exurbs) were designed for the convenience of cars, not pedestrians: extra wide, with extra merging space at entries and intersections, which intimidates pedestrians, especially if the pedestrians are at all slow. The huge streets encourage drivers to drive faster.</p>

	<p>The crossing lights do not last long enough, and I&#8217;ve even heard the rumor that the buttons to call for crossing lights are not connected to the lights (like the &#8220;close door&#8221; buttons in elevators).</p>

	<p>I would rather not cross one of these exurban roads, feeling like Tyrone Slothrop (the character in Pynchon&#8217;s <i>Gravity&#8217;s Rainbow</i>) when he blindly runs across a German Autobahn.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/23/walk-score/comment-page-1/#comment-240799</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 16:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But the aim of this site appears to be to (further) raise the profile of “walkability” among a certain demographic: the house-buying, blog-reading latte-rati.&lt;/i&gt;

The profile of walkability is enhanced when you don&#039;t have a car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>But the aim of this site appears to be to (further) raise the profile of &#8220;walkability&#8221; among a certain demographic: the house-buying, blog-reading latte-rati.</i></p>

	<p>The profile of walkability is enhanced when you don&#8217;t have a car.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 14:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Engels- here&#039;s an optimistic story we might tell.  I&#039;m not sure I believe it but it&#039;s not obviously false to me, either.  We might think that this sort of thing (not this particular thing, especially not by itself, of course) will have social benefits in that it will encourage people who have social influence to seek more of this good.  If it&#039;s demanded it will be produced, if it&#039;s demanded by people who have social influence.  The poor have little social influence so even if the want this they are unlikely to get it.  But, if it is demanded by people who once demanded big lots, no side-walks, lots of driving, etc. then it will be provided while the bad stuff won&#039;t be as provided.  But, at least some of this will go to people who are poorer, too.  Mixed use neighborhoods are often mixed income ones as well (though of course they are not always such.)  So, be encouraging people who have influence to seek this good thing some of the good will likely go to others who would not have gotten it in any other way.  

Like I say at the start, this is probably too optimistic.  But it seems that you&#039;re remark is pretty clearly too cynical, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Engels- here&#8217;s an optimistic story we might tell.  I&#8217;m not sure I believe it but it&#8217;s not obviously false to me, either.  We might think that this sort of thing (not this particular thing, especially not by itself, of course) will have social benefits in that it will encourage people who have social influence to seek more of this good.  If it&#8217;s demanded it will be produced, if it&#8217;s demanded by people who have social influence.  The poor have little social influence so even if the want this they are unlikely to get it.  But, if it is demanded by people who once demanded big lots, no side-walks, lots of driving, etc. then it will be provided while the bad stuff won&#8217;t be as provided.  But, at least some of this will go to people who are poorer, too.  Mixed use neighborhoods are often mixed income ones as well (though of course they are not always such.)  So, be encouraging people who have influence to seek this good thing some of the good will likely go to others who would not have gotten it in any other way.</p>

	<p>Like I say at the start, this is probably too optimistic.  But it seems that you&#8217;re remark is pretty clearly too cynical, too.</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
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		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 14:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO make the same point more briefly; I&#039;m all for re-distributing stuff in an egalitarian direction. But the aim of this site appears to be to (further) raise the profile of &quot;walkability&quot; among a certain demographic: the house-buying, blog-reading latte-rati. I&#039;m sceptical of social benefits of that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>TO make the same point more briefly; I&#8217;m all for re-distributing stuff in an egalitarian direction. But the aim of this site appears to be to (further) raise the profile of &#8220;walkability&#8221; among a certain demographic: the house-buying, blog-reading latte-rati. I&#8217;m sceptical of social benefits of that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
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		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 14:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simplfying massively (and I don&#039;t have any figures) but isn&#039;t it true that in the last several decades we have seen a very large re-distribution of &quot;walkability&quot; &lt;i&gt;away from&lt;/i&gt; the disadvantaged towards the affluent, as inner city areas have become gentrified and poorer residents have been forced to live further away from work and amenities?

The elevation of &quot;walkability&quot; from a more-or-less humdrum aspect of urban life for ordinary people to a fetish item for affluent vaguely leftish types--a tendency which this site appears to consciously contribute to--was surely key in bringing this regressive re-distribution about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Simplfying massively (and I don&#8217;t have any figures) but isn&#8217;t it true that in the last several decades we have seen a very large re-distribution of &#8220;walkability&#8221; <i>away from</i> the disadvantaged towards the affluent, as inner city areas have become gentrified and poorer residents have been forced to live further away from work and amenities?</p>

	<p>The elevation of &#8220;walkability&#8221; from a more-or-less humdrum aspect of urban life for ordinary people to a fetish item for affluent vaguely leftish types&#8212;a tendency which this site appears to consciously contribute to&#8212;was surely key in bringing this regressive re-distribution about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: harry b</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dan simon -- I&#039;d second what theo said. But also: unlike, say, proximity to natural lakeshores, the scarcity of walkability is entirely a socially constructed artifice. Zoning boards and city planners decide what our neighbourhoods look like, and those decisions have very long-term consequences (because housing stock lasts a long time). If walkability is a luxury (which I agree it is) that&#039;s because many people who would like to have it can&#039;t afford it. For once, that is not because they should have more money; instead it&#039;s because its supply has been artificially restricted by short-sighted, or often corrupted, government officials. Some cities, including my own, have introduced inclusionary zoning ordinances precisely in order to redistribute access to this luxury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>dan simon&#8212;I&#8217;d second what theo said. But also: unlike, say, proximity to natural lakeshores, the scarcity of walkability is entirely a socially constructed artifice. Zoning boards and city planners decide what our neighbourhoods look like, and those decisions have very long-term consequences (because housing stock lasts a long time). If walkability is a luxury (which I agree it is) that&#8217;s because many people who would like to have it can&#8217;t afford it. For once, that is not because they should have more money; instead it&#8217;s because its supply has been artificially restricted by short-sighted, or often corrupted, government officials. Some cities, including my own, have introduced inclusionary zoning ordinances precisely in order to redistribute access to this luxury.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/23/walk-score/comment-page-1/#comment-240783</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 08:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What happens when you try specific addresses outside the US?&lt;/i&gt;

The result is laughable. Walkscore, or Google map or whatever input they are using, knows only about a third of what&#039;s around my home. But it&#039;s okay, they are doing their best. In my experience, the places I lived in in France and Germany tended to be pretty walkable, not so much in Tokyo but the rest of Japan (that I have seen) was okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>What happens when you try specific addresses outside the US?</i></p>

	<p>The result is laughable. Walkscore, or Google map or whatever input they are using, knows only about a third of what&#8217;s around my home. But it&#8217;s okay, they are doing their best. In my experience, the places I lived in in France and Germany tended to be pretty walkable, not so much in Tokyo but the rest of Japan (that I have seen) was okay.</p>
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