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	<title>Comments on: Peterhouse Blues</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241750</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Julian Barnes&#039;s Letters From London (which gets an honorable mention in Henry&#039;s previous post), there&#039;s a point in the text where he talks disobligingly about another author but declines to name him. In the index appears the entry Ian McEwan, pointing to this page, on which McEwan is otherwise not mentioned. Diligently cross-referencing readers may draw their own conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In Julian Barnes&#8217;s Letters From London (which gets an honorable mention in Henry&#8217;s previous post), there&#8217;s a point in the text where he talks disobligingly about another author but declines to name him. In the index appears the entry Ian McEwan, pointing to this page, on which McEwan is otherwise not mentioned. Diligently cross-referencing readers may draw their own conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241438</link>
		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was an obit of John Belushi that consisted entirely of his index entry in some book about Hollywood, along the lines of

Belushi, John
and amphetamines
alcoholism
benzedrine and
barbiturates

and so on for a long list of substances, and DAMMIT I wish I could find a reference. Thought it was in &quot;Easy Riders, Raging Bulls&quot; but it wasn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There was an obit of John Belushi that consisted entirely of his index entry in some book about Hollywood, along the lines of</p>

	<p>Belushi, John<br />
and amphetamines<br />
alcoholism<br />
benzedrine and<br />
barbiturates</p>

	<p>and so on for a long list of substances, and <span class="caps">DAMMIT I</span> wish I could find a reference. Thought it was in &#8220;Easy Riders, Raging Bulls&#8221; but it wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hurka</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241426</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hurka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C. D. Broad&#039;s Five Types of Ethical Theory (1930) has entries like:

Paul, Saint; less widely appreciated than Mr. Charles Chaplin;

Hegel, G. W. F.; was a philosophical disaster; 

Green, T. H.; his power of producing prigs; and

God; tentatively compared to Jeremy Bentham.

Self-indulgent, yes, but worth the price of admission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>C. D. Broad&#8217;s Five Types of Ethical Theory (1930) has entries like:</p>

	<p>Paul, Saint; less widely appreciated than Mr. Charles Chaplin;</p>

	<p>Hegel, G. W. F.; was a philosophical disaster;</p>

	<p>Green, T. H.; his power of producing prigs; and</p>

	<p>God; tentatively compared to Jeremy Bentham.</p>

	<p>Self-indulgent, yes, but worth the price of admission.</p>
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		<title>By: magistra</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241401</link>
		<dc:creator>magistra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one time I indexed a book (semi-professionally, I&#039;m a trained librarian, but not indexer), I resisted the temptation to add in daft entries, but I did try and do some &lt;a href=&quot;http://magistraetmater.blog.co.uk/2007/04/29/feminist_indexing~2178503&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;feminist indexing&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The one time I indexed a book (semi-professionally, I&#8217;m a trained librarian, but not indexer), I resisted the temptation to add in daft entries, but I did try and do some <a href="http://magistraetmater.blog.co.uk/2007/04/29/feminist_indexing~2178503" rel="nofollow">feminist indexing</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: tom s.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241381</link>
		<dc:creator>tom s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard of a frustrated indexer of a long and old-fashioned legal text whose parting shot was the entry &quot;women, total neglect of: 1-723&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I heard of a frustrated indexer of a long and old-fashioned legal text whose parting shot was the entry &#8220;women, total neglect of: 1-723&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241368</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep Eric - right on target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yep Eric &#8211; right on target.</p>
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		<title>By: The Modesto Kid</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241357</link>
		<dc:creator>The Modesto Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever happened to the nice Crooked Timber preview feature?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Whatever happened to the nice Crooked Timber preview feature?</p>
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		<title>By: The Modesto Kid</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241355</link>
		<dc:creator>The Modesto Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the life of &lt;em&gt;Aamons, Mona&lt;/em&gt;, the index itself gave a jangling, surrealistic picture of the many conflicting forces that had been brought to bear on her and of her dismayed reactions to them.

&quot;&lt;em&gt;Aamons, Mona&lt;/em&gt;:&quot; the index said, &quot;adopted by Monzano in order to boost Monzano&#039;s popularity, 194-199, 216n.; childhood in compound of House of Hope and Mercy, 63-81; childhood romance with P. Castle, 72f; death of father, 89ff; death of mother, 92f; embarrassed by role as national erotic symbol, 80, 95f, 166n., 209, 274n., 400-406, 566n., 678; lives with Bokonon, 92-98, 196-197; poems about, 2n., 26, 114, 119, 311, 315, 477n., 501, 507, 555n.,...

I showed this index entry to the Mintons, asking them if it didn&#039;t think it was an enchanting biography in itself, a biography of a reluctant goddess of love.  I got an unexpectedly expert answer, as one does in life sometimes.  It
appeared that Claire Minton, in her time, had been a professional indexer.  I had never heard of such a profession before...  She said that indexing was athing only the most amateurish author undertook to do for his own book.  I asked her what she thought of Philip Castle&#039;s job.

 &quot;Flattering to the author, insulting to the reader,&quot; she said. &quot;In a hyphenated word,&quot; she said with the shrewd amiability of an expert, &quot;&lt;em&gt;self-indulgent&lt;/em&gt;.  I&#039;m always embarrassed when I see an index an author has made of his own work.  It&#039;s a revealing thing... a shameless exhibition -- to the &lt;em&gt;trained&lt;/em&gt; eye.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In the life of <em>Aamons, Mona</em>, the index itself gave a jangling, surrealistic picture of the many conflicting forces that had been brought to bear on her and of her dismayed reactions to them.</p>

	<p>&#8220;<em>Aamons, Mona</em>:&#8221; the index said, &#8220;adopted by Monzano in order to boost Monzano&#8217;s popularity, 194-199, 216n.; childhood in compound of House of Hope and Mercy, 63-81; childhood romance with P. Castle, 72f; death of father, 89ff; death of mother, 92f; embarrassed by role as national erotic symbol, 80, 95f, 166n., 209, 274n., 400-406, 566n., 678; lives with Bokonon, 92-98, 196-197; poems about, 2n., 26, 114, 119, 311, 315, 477n., 501, 507, 555n.,&#8230;</p>

	<p>I showed this index entry to the Mintons, asking them if it didn&#8217;t think it was an enchanting biography in itself, a biography of a reluctant goddess of love.  I got an unexpectedly expert answer, as one does in life sometimes.  It<br />
appeared that Claire Minton, in her time, had been a professional indexer.  I had never heard of such a profession before&#8230;  She said that indexing was athing only the most amateurish author undertook to do for his own book.  I asked her what she thought of Philip Castle&#8217;s job.</p>

	<p>&#8220;Flattering to the author, insulting to the reader,&#8221; she said. &#8220;In a hyphenated word,&#8221; she said with the shrewd amiability of an expert, &#8220;<em>self-indulgent</em>.  I&#8217;m always embarrassed when I see an index an author has made of his own work.  It&#8217;s a revealing thing&#8230; a shameless exhibition&#8212;to the <em>trained</em> eye.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241351</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took the title to be a sly reference to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Porterhouse-Blue-Tom-Sharpe/dp/0871132796&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tom Sharpe&#039;s wonderful campus novel&lt;/a&gt;. But perhaps I&#039;m just imagining that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I took the title to be a sly reference to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Porterhouse-Blue-Tom-Sharpe/dp/0871132796" rel="nofollow">Tom Sharpe&#8217;s wonderful campus novel</a>. But perhaps I&#8217;m just imagining that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Alpers</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241341</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Alpers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t this post be entitled &quot;There&#039;ll Always Be an England&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Shouldn&#8217;t this post be entitled &#8220;There&#8217;ll Always Be an England&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Alpers</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241339</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Alpers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was once told that shortly after Trevor-Roper had been embarrassed by his incorrect authentication of the Hitler diaries, one of his Peterhouse enemies bought a dog and named it &quot;Diaries&quot; simply so that he could wonder around the quad yelling &quot;Diaries! Diaries!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was once told that shortly after Trevor-Roper had been embarrassed by his incorrect authentication of the Hitler diaries, one of his Peterhouse enemies bought a dog and named it &#8220;Diaries&#8221; simply so that he could wonder around the quad yelling &#8220;Diaries! Diaries!&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/01/6955/comment-page-1/#comment-241333</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know of a group of people who used to bowl together. In the first book each one of them wrote, there is an index entry for each of the other people in the group. The page reference provided in each case is that person&#039;s bowling average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I know of a group of people who used to bowl together. In the first book each one of them wrote, there is an index entry for each of the other people in the group. The page reference provided in each case is that person&#8217;s bowling average.</p>
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