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		<title>By: Bob G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh.  I never knew Howie Mandel was a terrorist.  Or maybe O.C.D. is code for being in Al Qaeda, since he always does the fist bump in lieu of shaking hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Huh.  I never knew Howie Mandel was a terrorist.  Or maybe O.C.D. is code for being in Al Qaeda, since he always does the fist bump in lieu of shaking hands.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth, I agree; it&#039;s just that a universe of D-hacks and R-hacks is not a big improvement over the universe of united D&amp;R hacks. I want a better variety of hacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Seth, I agree; it&#8217;s just that a universe of D-hacks and R-hacks is not a big improvement over the universe of united D&#038;R hacks. I want a better variety of hacks.</p>
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		<title>By: gandhi</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/07/terrorist-fist-jab/comment-page-1/#comment-242990</link>
		<dc:creator>gandhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atrios has the latest hilarious scoop: &lt;a href=&quot;http://phillybits.blogspot.com/2008/06/photo-bush-sr-in-terrorist-fistjab.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;George H.W. Bush doing the terrorist fist jab&lt;/a&gt;! 

Teh Awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Atrios has the latest hilarious scoop: <a href="http://phillybits.blogspot.com/2008/06/photo-bush-sr-in-terrorist-fistjab.html" rel="nofollow">George H.W. Bush doing the terrorist fist jab</a>!</p>

	<p>Teh Awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: seth edenbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>seth edenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is sincere loyalty better than insincere neutrality?&quot;
Oh yeah.  

I could put this here or &lt;a href=&quot;http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/06/money-talks-and-the-social-construction-of-reality-walks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; It would work either way. 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eschatonblog.com/2008_06_08_archive.html#4738433075877342145&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Atrios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;One constant refrain during the Free Press&#039;s National Conference on Media Reform was that they were a nonpartisan entity and they could not endorse candidates in federal elections. This was meant to prevent speakers and panelists from doing the same.
Due to the various constraints from tax and campaign finance law, you have a lot of organizations that are unable to take the step of linking outcomes to politics. They can&#039;t say &quot;vote for Obama, so we&#039;ll get media reform.&quot; While in isolation it isn&#039;t that big of a deal, I think it&#039;s another thing which contributes to the lack of issues and policy in politics. A lot of people doing good stuff on policy just can&#039;t intertwine the policy with the politics, even though unless the right people get elected none of the good stuff is going to happen.&lt;/blockquote&gt; More realistic acceptance of partisanship in the press and everywhere else would lead to better discussions.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Trade-History-British-Journalism/dp/0330411926&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My Trade: A Short History of British Journalism&lt;/a&gt;. Marr calls himself a &quot;hack&quot; and journalism a &quot;trade&quot; and comments on the professionalization of the american press. Atrios has called himself a hack, or at least he used to.  We need a return to a vulgar political press, and Fox started that.  I&#039;m saying this all the time these days: If the political press treated GWB the way the entertainment press granted Britney Spears we&#039;d be much better off.  The only thing that bugged me about all the shit Clinton had to put up with what that the liberal press refused to dive into the mud against Bush.  The liberal press is made up of holier than thou reformers catering to the educated middle class. The Nation doesn&#039;t even try to be a popular magazine.  If we had some left wing tabloids it would be the sign of a healthier political culture.  Instead we have, or have had for a long time an elitist intellectual left. But that&#039;s changing.  Daily Kos among other things functions as a Tabloid. I was always disgusted by self-important Clinton defenders, as if the jackass deserved some sort of respect, but actually I should have shrugged, since they helped too.  But not for the reasons they imagine.

Republican forms of government are vulgar. and cleanliness is next to Platonism.  &quot;Enlightened&quot; conversation should be able to withstand mockery even if that mockery is petty and adolescent, because as often as not that enlightened conversation is a circle jerk of self-important dimwits.  More than redstate I really can&#039;t stand The Daily Howler. Bob Somerby drives me nuts.
Moral hazard is a risk for everything, so everything needs a counterforce: the market, the academy, the government, and anyone who calls himself an expert.  My standard defense of law over philosophy is based on the fact that law in practice is incredibly low and vulgar and yet everyone understands that it&#039;s at the moral center of our culture, as intellectual activity and subject of art. Lawyers are ubiquitous in fiction, movies and TV but at the same time they&#039;re marginal.  Law professors and legal philosophers don&#039;t count. Talk to someone in criminal defense.

I&#039;m with Max Sawicky who was one of the few people to admit losing patience with Kos and other teenagers unburdened by history (or historical memory) but the Daily Kos marked an important change in the politics of this country.  I don&#039;t have to take him seriously as a thinker or political philosopher to understand that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Is sincere loyalty better than insincere neutrality?&#8221;<br />
Oh yeah.</p>

	<p>I could put this here or <a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/06/money-talks-and-the-social-construction-of-reality-walks/" rel="nofollow">here</a> It would work either way.<br />
<a href="http://www.eschatonblog.com/2008_06_08_archive.html#4738433075877342145" rel="nofollow">Atrios</a><blockquote>One constant refrain during the Free Press&#8217;s National Conference on Media Reform was that they were a nonpartisan entity and they could not endorse candidates in federal elections. This was meant to prevent speakers and panelists from doing the same.<br />
Due to the various constraints from tax and campaign finance law, you have a lot of organizations that are unable to take the step of linking outcomes to politics. They can&#8217;t say &#8220;vote for Obama, so we&#8217;ll get media reform.&#8221; While in isolation it isn&#8217;t that big of a deal, I think it&#8217;s another thing which contributes to the lack of issues and policy in politics. A lot of people doing good stuff on policy just can&#8217;t intertwine the policy with the politics, even though unless the right people get elected none of the good stuff is going to happen.</blockquote> More realistic acceptance of partisanship in the press and everywhere else would lead to better discussions.</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Trade-History-British-Journalism/dp/0330411926" rel="nofollow">My Trade: A Short History of British Journalism</a>. Marr calls himself a &#8220;hack&#8221; and journalism a &#8220;trade&#8221; and comments on the professionalization of the american press. Atrios has called himself a hack, or at least he used to.  We need a return to a vulgar political press, and Fox started that.  I&#8217;m saying this all the time these days: If the political press treated <span class="caps">GWB</span> the way the entertainment press granted Britney Spears we&#8217;d be much better off.  The only thing that bugged me about all the shit Clinton had to put up with what that the liberal press refused to dive into the mud against Bush.  The liberal press is made up of holier than thou reformers catering to the educated middle class. The Nation doesn&#8217;t even try to be a popular magazine.  If we had some left wing tabloids it would be the sign of a healthier political culture.  Instead we have, or have had for a long time an elitist intellectual left. But that&#8217;s changing.  Daily Kos among other things functions as a Tabloid. I was always disgusted by self-important Clinton defenders, as if the jackass deserved some sort of respect, but actually I should have shrugged, since they helped too.  But not for the reasons they imagine.</p>

	<p>Republican forms of government are vulgar. and cleanliness is next to Platonism.  &#8220;Enlightened&#8221; conversation should be able to withstand mockery even if that mockery is petty and adolescent, because as often as not that enlightened conversation is a circle jerk of self-important dimwits.  More than redstate I really can&#8217;t stand The Daily Howler. Bob Somerby drives me nuts.<br />
Moral hazard is a risk for everything, so everything needs a counterforce: the market, the academy, the government, and anyone who calls himself an expert.  My standard defense of law over philosophy is based on the fact that law in practice is incredibly low and vulgar and yet everyone understands that it&#8217;s at the moral center of our culture, as intellectual activity and subject of art. Lawyers are ubiquitous in fiction, movies and TV but at the same time they&#8217;re marginal.  Law professors and legal philosophers don&#8217;t count. Talk to someone in criminal defense.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;m with Max Sawicky who was one of the few people to admit losing patience with Kos and other teenagers unburdened by history (or historical memory) but the Daily Kos marked an important change in the politics of this country.  I don&#8217;t have to take him seriously as a thinker or political philosopher to understand that.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/07/terrorist-fist-jab/comment-page-1/#comment-242964</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, if there&#039;s any truth in the standard narrative of pre-Gingrich congressional Rs and Ds having drinks together in the afternoon, one has to conclude that something had changed in the late 80s; Gingrich&amp;Co nastiness, AM radio and so on being the symptoms. 

You think the nastiness is the result of them trying to sell their services to the same patrons? I suppose it&#039;s possible, but look at the actual results, Clinton vs. Bush: Bush&#039;s dollar is half the value of Clinton&#039;s; energy prices 5-fold up; no major trade agreements under Bush; &#039;defense&#039; budget doubled. Results are so different that they can&#039;t possibly satisfy the same group of patrons. Seems to me that the financial services (especially international) have taken a hit, while the energy and arms sectors are making out like bandits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I dunno, if there&#8217;s any truth in the standard narrative of pre-Gingrich congressional Rs and Ds having drinks together in the afternoon, one has to conclude that something had changed in the late 80s; Gingrich&#038;Co nastiness, AM radio and so on being the symptoms.</p>

	<p>You think the nastiness is the result of them trying to sell their services to the same patrons? I suppose it&#8217;s possible, but look at the actual results, Clinton vs. Bush: Bush&#8217;s dollar is half the value of Clinton&#8217;s; energy prices 5-fold up; no major trade agreements under Bush; &#8216;defense&#8217; budget doubled. Results are so different that they can&#8217;t possibly satisfy the same group of patrons. Seems to me that the financial services (especially international) have taken a hit, while the energy and arms sectors are making out like bandits.</p>
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		<title>By: lemuel pitkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>lemuel pitkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;something changed in American economics in the 1980s (probably something to do with globalization) and it split previously more/less monolithic establishment into two antagonistic factions with mutually exclusive interests. And at that point, one way or another, ‘neutrality’ had to go.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know that stronger partisan conflict necessarily means there&#039;s any deeper underlying conflict. Historically, the opposite is often the case -- the parties compete most intensely when their constituencies are most overlapping. And indeed, the decline of unions (on the Dem side) and manufacturers (on the R side) has brought the economic bases of the parties closer.

Look at the incredibly partisan elections around 1900, another period where the basic consensus around economic issues was very strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>something changed in American economics in the 1980s (probably something to do with globalization) and it split previously more/less monolithic establishment into two antagonistic factions with mutually exclusive interests. And at that point, one way or another, &#8216;neutrality&#8217; had to go.</i></p>

	<p>I don&#8217;t know that stronger partisan conflict necessarily means there&#8217;s any deeper underlying conflict. Historically, the opposite is often the case&#8212;the parties compete most intensely when their constituencies are most overlapping. And indeed, the decline of unions (on the Dem side) and manufacturers (on the R side) has brought the economic bases of the parties closer.</p>

	<p>Look at the incredibly partisan elections around 1900, another period where the basic consensus around economic issues was very strong.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I was only responding to your praise of Fox&#039;s and TPM&#039;s &lt;i&gt;honesty&lt;/i&gt;. If you agree that the word &lt;i&gt;loyalty&lt;/i&gt; describes it better then I have no quarrel whatsoever. 

Is sincere loyalty better than insincere neutrality? I suppose it is, at least it brings the conflict to the surface. 

I think something changed in American economics in the 1980s (probably something to do with globalization) and it split previously more/less monolithic establishment into two antagonistic factions with mutually exclusive interests. And at that point, one way or another, &#039;neutrality&#039; had to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey, I was only responding to your praise of Fox&#8217;s and <span class="caps">TPM</span>&#8217;s <i>honesty</i>. If you agree that the word <i>loyalty</i> describes it better then I have no quarrel whatsoever.</p>

	<p>Is sincere loyalty better than insincere neutrality? I suppose it is, at least it brings the conflict to the surface.</p>

	<p>I think something changed in American economics in the 1980s (probably something to do with globalization) and it split previously more/less monolithic establishment into two antagonistic factions with mutually exclusive interests. And at that point, one way or another, &#8216;neutrality&#8217; had to go.</p>
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		<title>By: seth edenbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>seth edenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too much abbsian hyperbole. 
Marshall noted early on that he&#039;s ended up to right of his readership. He&#039;s a defender of Clinton and Clintonism and  declared himself humbled in the presence of Arthur Schlesinger.   He believes that my family  after 2000 years, has a &quot;right of return&quot; to land in Israel that he denies to Palestinians who were born there. He named his son after the man who redrew the maps annexing the occupied territories. 
Some people may be less offended by all this than I am, or less annoyed by Yglesias, and that&#039;s fine.  Bias is bias and it&#039;s human,  but I have a linklist of Jews, Arabs, academics and Quaker peaceniks who both individually and as a group are more rational, logical, and fair-minded about the middle east  than Marshall and MJ  &quot;We have to deal with Arabs even though we don&#039;t like them very much&quot; Rosenberg.

And finally Marshall&#039;s intellectual life like that of most journalist/policy wonks is founded in loyalty to a country.
I can accept the importance of that choice in popular discourse and even understand its necessity in Machiavellian terms,  but I can&#039;t take it seriously as a form of idealism. And in America left and right that&#039;s just what it is: Nationalism is Reason. And we&#039;re back at the social construction of reality again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Too much abbsian hyperbole.<br />
Marshall noted early on that he&#8217;s ended up to right of his readership. He&#8217;s a defender of Clinton and Clintonism and  declared himself humbled in the presence of Arthur Schlesinger.   He believes that my family  after 2000 years, has a &#8220;right of return&#8221; to land in Israel that he denies to Palestinians who were born there. He named his son after the man who redrew the maps annexing the occupied territories.<br />
Some people may be less offended by all this than I am, or less annoyed by Yglesias, and that&#8217;s fine.  Bias is bias and it&#8217;s human,  but I have a linklist of Jews, Arabs, academics and Quaker peaceniks who both individually and as a group are more rational, logical, and fair-minded about the middle east  than Marshall and <span class="caps">MJ  </span>&#8220;We have to deal with Arabs even though we don&#8217;t like them very much&#8221; Rosenberg.</p>

	<p>And finally Marshall&#8217;s intellectual life like that of most journalist/policy wonks is founded in loyalty to a country.<br />
I can accept the importance of that choice in popular discourse and even understand its necessity in Machiavellian terms,  but I can&#8217;t take it seriously as a form of idealism. And in America left and right that&#8217;s just what it is: Nationalism is Reason. And we&#8217;re back at the social construction of reality again.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And TPM has been more accurate and a good deal more fact respecting than the Fox news operation.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m sure it has been, nevertheless it&#039;s a partisan Democratic operation. 

And it&#039;s quite understandable: it&#039;s difficult to resist the pressure. Marshall has been a partisan Democrat for as long as I can remember, but, say, someone like Matthew Yglesias - a quintessential American liberal - he wouldn&#039;t want to be labeled &#039;enemy of the people&#039; by the Kossacks and various other red guards, so he seems to be moving closer and closer to the official party line too. It&#039;s a natural process; there&#039;s nothing you can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>And <span class="caps">TPM</span> has been more accurate and a good deal more fact respecting than the Fox news operation.</i></p>

	<p>I&#8217;m sure it has been, nevertheless it&#8217;s a partisan Democratic operation.</p>

	<p>And it&#8217;s quite understandable: it&#8217;s difficult to resist the pressure. Marshall has been a partisan Democrat for as long as I can remember, but, say, someone like Matthew Yglesias &#8211; a quintessential American liberal &#8211; he wouldn&#8217;t want to be labeled &#8216;enemy of the people&#8217; by the Kossacks and various other red guards, so he seems to be moving closer and closer to the official party line too. It&#8217;s a natural process; there&#8217;s nothing you can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What’s Obama doing with his hand right after the jab? Is that a butt pat? &lt;/i&gt;

A Sharia butt pat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>What&#8217;s Obama doing with his hand right after the jab? Is that a butt pat? </i></p>

	<p>A Sharia butt pat.</p>
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		<title>By: pete592</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete592</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This form of terrorism is spreading.  Watch the end of this commercial and see for yourself:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl26sNVkEdE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This form of terrorism is spreading.  Watch the end of this commercial and see for yourself:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl26sNVkEdE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl26sNVkEdE</a></p>
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		<title>By: MR Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>MR Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seth edenbaum at 9 : do you mean to suggest that having a political propaganda network is the price of &quot;The Simpsons&quot;?
I would have thought that &quot;Cops&quot; more than made up for all the cartoons on Fox. ( After all, it&#039;s statist &#039;real life&#039; stories of valiant police.)
And TPM has been more accurate and a good deal more fact respecting than the Fox news operation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>seth edenbaum at 9 : do you mean to suggest that having a political propaganda network is the price of &#8220;The Simpsons&#8221;?<br />
I would have thought that &#8220;Cops&#8221; more than made up for all the cartoons on Fox. ( After all, it&#8217;s statist &#8216;real life&#8217; stories of valiant police.)<br />
And <span class="caps">TPM</span> has been more accurate and a good deal more fact respecting than the Fox news operation.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If it weren’t for Fox we wouldn’t have the the new serious mainstream self-styled liberal newsjournals. Look what’s happening to TPM...&lt;/i&gt;

TPM is not liberal, Fox is not conservative. One is an arm of the Republican propaganda machine, the other Democratic. Had a Democratic administration invaded and occupied Iraq, we would&#039;ve listened to Fox complaining that the occupation is too expensive and doesn&#039;t serve American interests and read TMP explaining how democracy-promotion in the middle east is absolutely vital for America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>If it weren&#8217;t for Fox we wouldn&#8217;t have the the new serious mainstream self-styled liberal newsjournals. Look what&#8217;s happening to <span class="caps">TPM</span>&#8230;</i></p>

	<p><span class="caps">TPM</span> is not liberal, Fox is not conservative. One is an arm of the Republican propaganda machine, the other Democratic. Had a Democratic administration invaded and occupied Iraq, we would&#8217;ve listened to Fox complaining that the occupation is too expensive and doesn&#8217;t serve American interests and read <span class="caps">TMP</span> explaining how democracy-promotion in the middle east is absolutely vital for America.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/07/terrorist-fist-jab/comment-page-1/#comment-242817</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Small of the back from what I&#039;ve seen from other footage.

Talk about a storm in a teacup. What will the right-wing rumour machine decide to pick up on next ?</description>
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	<p>Talk about a storm in a teacup. What will the right-wing rumour machine decide to pick up on next ?</p>
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		<title>By: dr</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/07/terrorist-fist-jab/comment-page-1/#comment-242808</link>
		<dc:creator>dr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s Obama doing with his hand right after the jab? Is that a butt pat?</description>
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