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		<title>By: eszter</title>
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		<dc:creator>eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura, I was referring to people whose writing oozes unwarranted self-confidence. I don&#039;t actually know many such folks, but I&#039;ve seen it and thought it was worth a mention.

Thanks for all the comments about what one can get out of blogging, in particular, the benefits of practicing writing. I very much agree with this so I’m glad several of you brought it up. (The point of my post wasn’t to focus on the benefits per se, that’s why I didn’t get into this in much detail, but it’s definitely worth bringing up in the discussion thread so thank you!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Laura, I was referring to people whose writing oozes unwarranted self-confidence. I don&#8217;t actually know many such folks, but I&#8217;ve seen it and thought it was worth a mention.</p>

	<p>Thanks for all the comments about what one can get out of blogging, in particular, the benefits of practicing writing. I very much agree with this so I&#8217;m glad several of you brought it up. (The point of my post wasn&#8217;t to focus on the benefits per se, that&#8217;s why I didn&#8217;t get into this in much detail, but it&#8217;s definitely worth bringing up in the discussion thread so thank you!)</p>
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		<title>By: a very public sociologist</title>
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		<dc:creator>a very public sociologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a blogging sociologist too, and I&#039;m a PhD student. Before I entered into the blogging fray I intended it to be an academic affair focusing just on academic issues, but the trouble is I&#039;m an activist too and I couldn&#039;t resist commenting on politics and activisty things. 

The way I&#039;ve managed to get round to try and make it interesting from a sociological point of view is by occasionally commenting on my PhD work and report on conferences and seminars I attend. You can see some examples &lt;a href=&quot;http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2008/05/masculinity-and-dependency-culture.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2008/04/university-and-utopia.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2008/03/sexing-up-sociology.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s helped me work through my own thoughts as well as seriously reflect on the thoughts of others. 

In these times when public debate is regularly debased by lazy journalism and bigotry, I think it&#039;s a good thing for sociologists to take up blogging and trying to get their informed commentary out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m a blogging sociologist too, and I&#8217;m a PhD student. Before I entered into the blogging fray I intended it to be an academic affair focusing just on academic issues, but the trouble is I&#8217;m an activist too and I couldn&#8217;t resist commenting on politics and activisty things.</p>

	<p>The way I&#8217;ve managed to get round to try and make it interesting from a sociological point of view is by occasionally commenting on my PhD work and report on conferences and seminars I attend. You can see some examples <a href="http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2008/05/masculinity-and-dependency-culture.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2008/04/university-and-utopia.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2008/03/sexing-up-sociology.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. It&#8217;s helped me work through my own thoughts as well as seriously reflect on the thoughts of others.</p>

	<p>In these times when public debate is regularly debased by lazy journalism and bigotry, I think it&#8217;s a good thing for sociologists to take up blogging and trying to get their informed commentary out there.</p>
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		<title>By: kris olds</title>
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		<dc:creator>kris olds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for this enlightening post. I included it in a post today to a human geography listserver as we are debating the uses (if any) of blogs. 

I co-edit and contribute to a group blog (GlobalHigherEd:http://globalhighered.wordpress.com/) and you have helped me to frame what I&#039;ve been feeling, but have not really condensed. I might add that we find the blog term to be a misnomer too as we use our blog as a vehicle to develop 650-2000 word entries that act as archives for relevant (for us) debates, links, summaries of arguments, profiles of developments, interesting graphics, and stage 1 of eventual articles. In addition, from a researcher&#039;s perspective, blogs have the potential to generate all sorts of connections to future collaborators, sources of data (i.e. people and institutions often reach out and make contact versus the opposite), attention to the output of research projects, debates going on in other disciplines (e.g., it is easier to reach across disciplines with open access outlets versus via disciplinary-specific journals), and so on. This form of engagement is not captured in the &quot;comments&quot; section but it is much more important from a researcher&#039;s perspective. Indeed while the blog has required a fair bit of time to get up and running, it has also saved time in broadening our research networks on a number of levels. Given this, perhaps, we just have to skip 50% of Law &amp; Order. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thank you very much for this enlightening post. I included it in a post today to a human geography listserver as we are debating the uses (if any) of blogs.</p>

	<p>I co-edit and contribute to a group blog (GlobalHigherEd:http://globalhighered.wordpress.com/) and you have helped me to frame what I&#8217;ve been feeling, but have not really condensed. I might add that we find the blog term to be a misnomer too as we use our blog as a vehicle to develop 650-2000 word entries that act as archives for relevant (for us) debates, links, summaries of arguments, profiles of developments, interesting graphics, and stage 1 of eventual articles. In addition, from a researcher&#8217;s perspective, blogs have the potential to generate all sorts of connections to future collaborators, sources of data (i.e. people and institutions often reach out and make contact versus the opposite), attention to the output of research projects, debates going on in other disciplines (e.g., it is easier to reach across disciplines with open access outlets versus via disciplinary-specific journals), and so on. This form of engagement is not captured in the &#8220;comments&#8221; section but it is much more important from a researcher&#8217;s perspective. Indeed while the blog has required a fair bit of time to get up and running, it has also saved time in broadening our research networks on a number of levels. Given this, perhaps, we just have to skip 50% of Law &#038; Order. :)</p>
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		<title>By: laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jacob. Actually, I been worrying all day whether I fit into Eszter&#039;s category of dumb bloggers who think they&#039;re smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks, Jacob. Actually, I been worrying all day whether I fit into Eszter&#8217;s category of dumb bloggers who think they&#8217;re smart.</p>
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		<title>By: Thom Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thom Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I entirely agree with the main post: be somewhat careful about the image you portray with your blog, but I think -- if run well -- it is a real treat to blog. Now if only I could do it well . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I entirely agree with the main post: be somewhat careful about the image you portray with your blog, but I think&#8212;if run well&#8212;it is a real treat to blog. Now if only I could do it well . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Gregory</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/12/revisiting-a-topic-given-changes-in-the-landscape/comment-page-1/#comment-243458</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like to emphasize a point made by Jacob and another by Peter.  I&#039;m a PhD student, and keeping a blog is really useful for (a) forcing me to make my thoughts more articulate as I write them down, and (b) gives me somewhere to keep an archive of thoughts and interesting quotes.  I&#039;d probably keep some notes on books I read etc. anyway, so I may as well keep them in blog form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;d just like to emphasize a point made by Jacob and another by Peter.  I&#8217;m a PhD student, and keeping a blog is really useful for (a) forcing me to make my thoughts more articulate as I write them down, and (b) gives me somewhere to keep an archive of thoughts and interesting quotes.  I&#8217;d probably keep some notes on books I read etc. anyway, so I may as well keep them in blog form.</p>
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		<title>By: chris uggen</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris uggen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a characteristically thoughtful post, eszter. i didn&#039;t start blogging until i was promoted to full professor, so it is difficult for me to advise grad students on this question. thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>a characteristically thoughtful post, eszter. i didn&#8217;t start blogging until i was promoted to full professor, so it is difficult for me to advise grad students on this question. thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/12/revisiting-a-topic-given-changes-in-the-landscape/comment-page-1/#comment-243424</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. One advantage worth adding applies to academia but also to so many other professions: writing really is a skill that improves with practice. If you&#039;re going to do a blog seriously, you need to be writing more or less daily, which means thousands of words every week. The positive effect of months or years of this on the quality and quantity of what one can produce as a writer is not to be sniffed at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Great post. One advantage worth adding applies to academia but also to so many other professions: writing really is a skill that improves with practice. If you&#8217;re going to do a blog seriously, you need to be writing more or less daily, which means thousands of words every week. The positive effect of months or years of this on the quality and quantity of what one can produce as a writer is not to be sniffed at.</p>
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		<title>By: nnyhav</title>
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		<dc:creator>nnyhav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should you change your mind, the domain bon-bon-mot.com/net/org/etc is available.

Meanwhile, commenting on a philosophy [group-]blog aligned with one&#039;s interests is probably a better place to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Should you change your mind, the domain bon-bon-mot.com/net/org/etc is available.</p>

	<p>Meanwhile, commenting on a philosophy [group-]blog aligned with one&#8217;s interests is probably a better place to start.</p>
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		<title>By: MSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, thanks Jacob. I feel better now, because I was engaging in a fair amount of navel (orange) gazing while reading this post.

Trying to find the balance between how much to talk about other things and how much to stick to the professional has been a constant tension. 

On the switching off stuff you are not interested in (as mentioned by Paul), it was precisely to facilitate that process that I set up a bunch of specialized feeds, with clear links near the top of the front page. So, for example, if all you want to read is my occasional brilliance on baseball, you can subscribe to that and never bother with the rest.

I thought about separate blogs for some time, and decided against it. 

Of course, it helps that I was already a senior professor when I started the thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, thanks Jacob. I feel better now, because I was engaging in a fair amount of navel (orange) gazing while reading this post.</p>

	<p>Trying to find the balance between how much to talk about other things and how much to stick to the professional has been a constant tension.</p>

	<p>On the switching off stuff you are not interested in (as mentioned by Paul), it was precisely to facilitate that process that I set up a bunch of specialized feeds, with clear links near the top of the front page. So, for example, if all you want to read is my occasional brilliance on baseball, you can subscribe to that and never bother with the rest.</p>

	<p>I thought about separate blogs for some time, and decided against it.</p>

	<p>Of course, it helps that I was already a senior professor when I started the thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jacob, I&#039;ve thought about writing more on chocolate, but in the end, eating it is what I&#039;m most passionate about.:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks, Jacob, I&#8217;ve thought about writing more on chocolate, but in the end, eating it is what I&#8217;m most passionate about.:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Christensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good summary - if I should add my 5¢ (that&#039;s Euro-¢, not devalued USD-¢) I&#039;d say that if Oisin and others have this feeling &quot;OMG, there are all of these really smart people out there blogging and if I don&#039;t have a blog, then people (read: the hiring committee) will think that I&#039;m really stupid and uncool&quot; (I&#039;m exaggerating the language here, but many academics feel that he or she is the stupid one in a room of really smart people) - then no: You shouldn&#039;t maintain a blog because it will not give &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; anything.

If, on the other hand, you have the feeling that there is stuff related to your field that you would like to make notes about, is unsure of etc, then writing about it in a less formal public context can be a help to clarify your thoughts.

Finally, just because you are an academic (whether graduate student or grown-up) doesn&#039;t mean that you can&#039;t have a life - let me cite Matthew Shugart (Fruits and votes) and Laura McKenna (11d) as cases in point. I am still waiting for &lt;em&gt;Eszter&#039;s Chocolate Dessert Review Blog&lt;/em&gt; to hit the interwebs, though! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A very good summary &#8211; if I should add my 5&#162; (that&#8217;s Euro-&#162;, not devalued <span class="caps">USD</span>-&#162;) I&#8217;d say that if Oisin and others have this feeling &#8220;OMG, there are all of these really smart people out there blogging and if I don&#8217;t have a blog, then people (read: the hiring committee) will think that I&#8217;m really stupid and uncool&#8221; (I&#8217;m exaggerating the language here, but many academics feel that he or she is the stupid one in a room of really smart people) &#8211; then no: You shouldn&#8217;t maintain a blog because it will not give <em>you</em> anything.</p>

	<p>If, on the other hand, you have the feeling that there is stuff related to your field that you would like to make notes about, is unsure of etc, then writing about it in a less formal public context can be a help to clarify your thoughts.</p>

	<p>Finally, just because you are an academic (whether graduate student or grown-up) doesn&#8217;t mean that you can&#8217;t have a life &#8211; let me cite Matthew Shugart (Fruits and votes) and Laura McKenna (11d) as cases in point. I am still waiting for <em>Eszter&#8217;s Chocolate Dessert Review Blog</em> to hit the interwebs, though! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although tagging and categories and such can help separate some of the personal and professional, I think it may make sense to maintain separate blogs, or at least separate blog faces, for different aspects of a life. I&#039;ve often wished, for most of the academic(ish) blogs I read, that the interface had a simple set of switches to say &quot;I don&#039;t care about that&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Although tagging and categories and such can help separate some of the personal and professional, I think it may make sense to maintain separate blogs, or at least separate blog faces, for different aspects of a life. I&#8217;ve often wished, for most of the academic(ish) blogs I read, that the interface had a simple set of switches to say &#8220;I don&#8217;t care about that&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intrigued by your comment about a surge in sociology bloggers, being myself a sociologist blogger (for the past three years). Perhaps other sociologists (like me) are tired of journalists (whose professional training after all is in how to write) making money doing social analysis ineptly in columns and books. 

Blogs did not exist when I was an untenured faculty member, but considering the amount of trouble I got into for expressing my opinions in other ways(denied tenure twice), I suspect that blogging as an untenured faculty member or graduate student has potential serious pitfalls. 

As a tenured full professor, I feel fairly free to discuss what ever I wish (within the bounds of decency and legality) on my blogs. A piece of advice:  if one wishes to blog about both professional/academic issues and topics and to blog about &quot;a day at the beach, a day watching football, and a day baking cookies&quot; then have two blogs. For purposes of discussion create a group blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Intrigued by your comment about a surge in sociology bloggers, being myself a sociologist blogger (for the past three years). Perhaps other sociologists (like me) are tired of journalists (whose professional training after all is in how to write) making money doing social analysis ineptly in columns and books.</p>

	<p>Blogs did not exist when I was an untenured faculty member, but considering the amount of trouble I got into for expressing my opinions in other ways(denied tenure twice), I suspect that blogging as an untenured faculty member or graduate student has potential serious pitfalls.</p>

	<p>As a tenured full professor, I feel fairly free to discuss what ever I wish (within the bounds of decency and legality) on my blogs. A piece of advice:  if one wishes to blog about both professional/academic issues and topics and to blog about &#8220;a day at the beach, a day watching football, and a day baking cookies&#8221; then have two blogs. For purposes of discussion create a group blog.</p>
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		<title>By: harry b</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second what tom hurka says. Using the blog to work out ideas with a group of people you know and trust is a good idea, and won&#039;t hurt unless in your writing betrays aspects of your personality that it would be better to mask until having a job. The way it might help is not by impressing readers on search committees, but by being a way in which you improve as a philosopher. Using it to ask people for literature is also a good idea. Or, and tom has lots of experience of this, using it to communicate philosophical ideas to non-philosophers is an excellent use, that will be respected (but won&#039;t help or hurt in the job market, I&#039;d have thought).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I second what tom hurka says. Using the blog to work out ideas with a group of people you know and trust is a good idea, and won&#8217;t hurt unless in your writing betrays aspects of your personality that it would be better to mask until having a job. The way it might help is not by impressing readers on search committees, but by being a way in which you improve as a philosopher. Using it to ask people for literature is also a good idea. Or, and tom has lots of experience of this, using it to communicate philosophical ideas to non-philosophers is an excellent use, that will be respected (but won&#8217;t help or hurt in the job market, I&#8217;d have thought).</p>
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