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	<title>Comments on: Old School Tie (and a request for information)</title>
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		<title>By: arnold</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/21/old-school-tie-and-a-request-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-244422</link>
		<dc:creator>arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Coleridges may hold the record for the longest connection of one family with the same school.  In the direct line, five out of six generations have now gone to Eton:

John Taylor Coleridge (1790-1876), educ. Eton;
John Duke Coleridge, 1st Baron Coleridge (1820-1894), educ. Eton;
Bernard Coleridge, 2nd Baron Coleridge (1851-1927), educ. Eton;
Geoffrey Coleridge, 3rd Baron Coleridge (1877-1955), educ. Eton;
Richard Coleridge, 4th Baron Coleridge (1905-1984), educ. RNC Osborne &amp; Dartmouth;
William Coleridge, 5th Baron Coleridge (1937-), educ. Eton.

Many of the younger sons also went to Eton, e.g.:

Henry Nelson Coleridge (1798-1843), younger brother of John Taylor Coleridge; educ. Eton;
and his son Herbert Coleridge (1830-1861), educ Eton;
Henry James Coleridge (1822-1893), younger brother of John Duke Coleridge; educ. Eton;
Gilbert Coleridge (1859-1953), younger brother of Bernard Coleridge; educ. Eton;
and his son Wilfred Coleridge (1889-1956), educ. Eton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think the Coleridges may hold the record for the longest connection of one family with the same school.  In the direct line, five out of six generations have now gone to Eton:</p>

	<p>John Taylor Coleridge (1790-1876), educ. Eton;<br />
John Duke Coleridge, 1st Baron Coleridge (1820-1894), educ. Eton;<br />
Bernard Coleridge, 2nd Baron Coleridge (1851-1927), educ. Eton;<br />
Geoffrey Coleridge, 3rd Baron Coleridge (1877-1955), educ. Eton;<br />
Richard Coleridge, 4th Baron Coleridge (1905-1984), educ. <span class="caps">RNC </span>Osborne &#038; Dartmouth;<br />
William Coleridge, 5th Baron Coleridge (1937-), educ. Eton.</p>

	<p>Many of the younger sons also went to Eton, e.g.:</p>

	<p>Henry Nelson Coleridge (1798-1843), younger brother of John Taylor Coleridge; educ. Eton;<br />
and his son Herbert Coleridge (1830-1861), educ Eton;<br />
Henry James Coleridge (1822-1893), younger brother of John Duke Coleridge; educ. Eton;<br />
Gilbert Coleridge (1859-1953), younger brother of Bernard Coleridge; educ. Eton;<br />
and his son Wilfred Coleridge (1889-1956), educ. Eton.</p>
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		<title>By: harry b</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/21/old-school-tie-and-a-request-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-244405</link>
		<dc:creator>harry b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re opening an Academy  -- I don&#039;t know how much new building there&#039;ll be, but there&#039;ll be some I presume, and I guess it&#039;ll stay on the site. They hired a new head, over the one who is currently there, presumably for the sake of change (the existing one seems pretty good, according to my sources, and was genuinely starting to turn things around...again).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>They&#8217;re opening an Academy &#8212;I don&#8217;t know how much new building there&#8217;ll be, but there&#8217;ll be some I presume, and I guess it&#8217;ll stay on the site. They hired a new head, over the one who is currently there, presumably for the sake of change (the existing one seems pretty good, according to my sources, and was genuinely starting to turn things around&#8230;again).</p>
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		<title>By: ejh</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/21/old-school-tie-and-a-request-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-244372</link>
		<dc:creator>ejh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are they doing with the school? Are they setting up a new one there, or knocking down the buildings for housing or something? I used to live on Blackbird Leys and would occasionally cut through the school fields on my way to the pub in Littlemore....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What are they doing with the school? Are they setting up a new one there, or knocking down the buildings for housing or something? I used to live on Blackbird Leys and would occasionally cut through the school fields on my way to the pub in Littlemore&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: harry b</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/21/old-school-tie-and-a-request-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-244351</link>
		<dc:creator>harry b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re #37, actually Peers has/had a building named after my dad (who was Director of Education in Oxfordshire for a while). It was the languages building; the head of the time knew him well, and I presume it was a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>re #37, actually Peers has/had a building named after my dad (who was Director of Education in Oxfordshire for a while). It was the languages building; the head of the time knew him well, and I presume it was a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: antonia</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/21/old-school-tie-and-a-request-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-244347</link>
		<dc:creator>antonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was the 3rd generation in my family to go to Wycombe Abbey (considers itself equivalent to Eton) and I knew at least one 4th generation girl there.  I don&#039;t plan to send my daughter there though - even if we could afford it, old British public schools are a very artificial environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was the 3rd generation in my family to go to Wycombe Abbey (considers itself equivalent to Eton) and I knew at least one 4th generation girl there.  I don&#8217;t plan to send my daughter there though &#8211; even if we could afford it, old British public schools are a very artificial environment.</p>
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		<title>By: burritoboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>burritoboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I went to a crappy-ass Roman Catholic school in San Jose, Ca that was only been founded in 1964 (Archbishop Mitty) we didn&#039;t have too many multi-generations even possible.  At least three generations of Whitneys attended Groton. In college, though, my next-door neighbor had an ancestor who founded the college, another who served as an early President, and numerous various relatives who had attended, taught and administered the place for over a hundred years (and yes, there was a campus building named after them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Since I went to a crappy-ass Roman Catholic school in San Jose, Ca that was only been founded in 1964 (Archbishop Mitty) we didn&#8217;t have too many multi-generations even possible.  At least three generations of Whitneys attended Groton. In college, though, my next-door neighbor had an ancestor who founded the college, another who served as an early President, and numerous various relatives who had attended, taught and administered the place for over a hundred years (and yes, there was a campus building named after them).</p>
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		<title>By: ejh</title>
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		<dc:creator>ejh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Oh if it wasne for the WSLs where would we be
We&#039;d in the Millies or the RCP
Or in the Sparts or the heart of the ol&#039; CP
If it wasn&#039;t for SO and Macgamna&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I believe Christopher Ricks&#039; critical appreciation is due to be published later in the summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8220;Oh if it wasne for the WSLs where would we be<br />
We&#8217;d in the Millies or the <span class="caps">RCP</span><br />
Or in the Sparts or the heart of the ol&#8217; CP<br />
If it wasn&#8217;t for SO and Macgamna&#8221;</i></p>

	<p>I believe Christopher Ricks&#8217; critical appreciation is due to be published later in the summer.</p>
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		<title>By: rea</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/21/old-school-tie-and-a-request-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-244307</link>
		<dc:creator>rea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops about #33.  I was going to answer the question by pointing out that I lived on Felch Street while attending law school in Ann Arbor.  Felch was governor of Michigan, senator, a justice of the Michigan Supreme Court, and a diplomat, as well as a long-time law professor at U of M . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oops about #33.  I was going to answer the question by pointing out that I lived on Felch Street while attending law school in Ann Arbor.  Felch was governor of Michigan, senator, a justice of the Michigan Supreme Court, and a diplomat, as well as a long-time law professor at U of M . . .</p>
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		<title>By: rea</title>
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		<dc:creator>rea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But who knew there was a man named Alpheus Felch?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>But who knew there was a man named Alpheus Felch?</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sumana Harihareswara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sumana Harihareswara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many generations of Bluths went to Milford?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>How many generations of Bluths went to Milford?</p>
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		<title>By: MR Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>MR Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj9Rs56u8YY
Steely Dan&#039;s &quot;My Old School&quot;..</description>
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Steely Dan&#8217;s &#8220;My Old School&#8221;..</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to the same school as my grandfather, my mother, her brothers, and my older brother.  Indeed, my grandfather, uncles, older brother and I all had the same teacher for at least one class.  It was a small-town Catholic primary school, and the teacher in question was a nun (very elderly, by the time I came along).  Does that count?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I went to the same school as my grandfather, my mother, her brothers, and my older brother.  Indeed, my grandfather, uncles, older brother and I all had the same teacher for at least one class.  It was a small-town Catholic primary school, and the teacher in question was a nun (very elderly, by the time I came along).  Does that count?</p>
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		<title>By: Sock Puppet of the Great Satan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sock Puppet of the Great Satan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;which even I could see was being manipulated to exclude any participation by the WSLs and ended in a fight.&quot;

Time for resurrecting and ol&#039; Conor Gearty sectarian song:

&quot;Oh if it wasne for the WSLs where would we be
We&#039;d in the Millies or the RCP
Or in the Sparts or the heart of the ol&#039; CP
If it wasn&#039;t for SO and Macgamna&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;which even I could see was being manipulated to exclude any participation by the WSLs and ended in a fight.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Time for resurrecting and ol&#8217; Conor Gearty sectarian song:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Oh if it wasne for the WSLs where would we be<br />
We&#8217;d in the Millies or the <span class="caps">RCP</span><br />
Or in the Sparts or the heart of the ol&#8217; CP<br />
If it wasn&#8217;t for SO and Macgamna&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Eric H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 05:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we count the Potters and Weasleys at their school?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Can we count the Potters and Weasleys at their school?</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Because in public schools in American suburbs, it’s pretty common to hear an older teacher go into the “I taught your mother/father” at least once a year.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes -- I know quite a few people around here who make teacher requests for their kids based on having had the same teacher themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Because in public schools in American suburbs, it&#8217;s pretty common to hear an older teacher go into the &#8220;I taught your mother/father&#8221; at least once a year.</i></p>

	<p>Yes&#8212;I know quite a few people around here who make teacher requests for their kids based on having had the same teacher themselves.</p>
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