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	<title>Comments on: Why are some online organizing efforts more successful than others?</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Readers might enjoy a column I wrote on this topic:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/feb/14/politics.internet&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Great internet campaigns don&#039;t guarantee success in politics&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;Internet evangelism shares a marketing technique with sellers of quack medicine, in that the promoters are eager to emphasise any successes and ignore any failures.&quot;

2) I also recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://whimsley.typepad.com/whimsley/2008/04/here-comes-ever.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tom Slee&#039;s review&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;The questions then become ones of what kind of structures will form and persist in the online world, and if you are going to talk about these questions then you have to address the economics of the problem.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>1. Readers might enjoy a column I wrote on this topic:</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/feb/14/politics.internet" rel="nofollow"><br />
Great internet campaigns don&#8217;t guarantee success in politics</a></p>

	<p>&#8220;Internet evangelism shares a marketing technique with sellers of quack medicine, in that the promoters are eager to emphasise any successes and ignore any failures.&#8221;</p>

	<p>2) I also recommend <a href="http://whimsley.typepad.com/whimsley/2008/04/here-comes-ever.html" rel="nofollow">Tom Slee&#8217;s review</a></p>

	<p>&#8220;The questions then become ones of what kind of structures will form and persist in the online world, and if you are going to talk about these questions then you have to address the economics of the problem.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Steve Laniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Laniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Shirky, but forgive me for being rather numb to &quot;technology will revolutionize everything&quot; claims. I &lt;a href=&quot;http://laniels.org/weblog/category/books/shirky-clay/here_comes_everybody/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reviewed Shirky&#039;s book a while back&lt;/a&gt;. Shirky is a technologist, not a historian. He needs to step back and ask why some revolutions have not happened the way people thought they would. My short answer would be: because politics always trumps technology.

I&#039;m curious if people here get anything good out of that review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I love Shirky, but forgive me for being rather numb to &#8220;technology will revolutionize everything&#8221; claims. I <a href="http://laniels.org/weblog/category/books/shirky-clay/here_comes_everybody/" rel="nofollow">reviewed Shirky&#8217;s book a while back</a>. Shirky is a technologist, not a historian. He needs to step back and ask why some revolutions have not happened the way people thought they would. My short answer would be: because politics always trumps technology.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;m curious if people here get anything good out of that review.</p>
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