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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/25/gender-differences-in-sharing-creative-content-online/comment-page-1/#comment-244707</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if this is a relevant data point or not, but rare is the movie on IMDB.com with more ratings from females than males.  Usually, there are more votes from male users by at least two to one, even for &quot;chick flicks&quot; (and the ratio is often higher for &quot;guy&quot; movies).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t know if this is a relevant data point or not, but rare is the movie on <span class="caps">IMDB</span>.com with more ratings from females than males.  Usually, there are more votes from male users by at least two to one, even for &#8220;chick flicks&#8221; (and the ratio is often higher for &#8220;guy&#8221; movies).</p>
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		<title>By: Ugluks Flea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ugluks Flea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...a study in which we found that male college students are more likely than their female counterparts to share creative content online even though both men and women in the sample are equally likely to create such content. However, when controlling for online skill, the gender differences in posting go away.&lt;/i&gt;

So... there are more nerdy technophile males than nerdy technophile females, but when normalized for this sad state of affairs the other differences trend away?

Clearly, we are facing a nerdy girl gap - you could write something up for DARPA, maybe get a grant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8230;a study in which we found that male college students are more likely than their female counterparts to share creative content online even though both men and women in the sample are equally likely to create such content. However, when controlling for online skill, the gender differences in posting go away.</i></p>

	<p>So&#8230; there are more nerdy technophile males than nerdy technophile females, but when normalized for this sad state of affairs the other differences trend away?</p>

	<p>Clearly, we are facing a nerdy girl gap &#8211; you could write something up for <span class="caps">DARPA</span>, maybe get a grant.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan4th</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan4th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems relevant whether the content is created *for* the internet, or created for some other purpose and then also posted to the internet.  Are people posting their photography class homework?  I have seen several &quot;made for a class&quot; videos on Youtube, but the vast majority of consumer-generated-video seems to be created specifically for the internet, whereas I don&#039;t think that&#039;s true for as much of photography and creative writing.

I&#039;d also be curious about the volume of content generated, and whether there&#039;s any difference.  Are we talking about &quot;have you *ever* posted a video&quot; or &quot;have you posted a video in the past month&quot;/&quot;how many videos have you posted in the past month?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It seems relevant whether the content is created <strong>for</strong> the internet, or created for some other purpose and then also posted to the internet.  Are people posting their photography class homework?  I have seen several &#8220;made for a class&#8221; videos on Youtube, but the vast majority of consumer-generated-video seems to be created specifically for the internet, whereas I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s true for as much of photography and creative writing.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;d also be curious about the volume of content generated, and whether there&#8217;s any difference.  Are we talking about &#8220;have you <strong>ever</strong> posted a video&#8221; or &#8220;have you posted a video in the past month&#8221;/&#8221;how many videos have you posted in the past month?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: h.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/25/gender-differences-in-sharing-creative-content-online/comment-page-1/#comment-244486</link>
		<dc:creator>h.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sharing&quot; and &quot;willing to share&quot; are already loaded terms. Is &quot;sharing&quot; really the main thing about putting stuff online, with all its positive connotations of community-mindedness, giving and receiving, dialogue? Or is this kind of online behaviour more akin to strutting your stuff, peacock style?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Sharing&#8221; and &#8220;willing to share&#8221; are already loaded terms. Is &#8220;sharing&#8221; really the main thing about putting stuff online, with all its positive connotations of community-mindedness, giving and receiving, dialogue? Or is this kind of online behaviour more akin to strutting your stuff, peacock style?</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The questions about skill are right on. Stephen (#6), I have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webuse.org/papers?id=gender-differences-in-actual-and-perceived-skills&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;written &lt;/a&gt; about gender and skill before. It&#039;s complicated, but basically, women tend to rate their skills lower than men regardless of actual skill. This is why I emphasize in the discussion that we are either talking perceived or actual skill with respect to what may influencing sharing patterns.

Others of you ask about how we measure skill.  Doug (#14), thanks for trying to explain. The examples you list could work, although some of them are, again, more about actual participation than skill per se.  It&#039;s complicated, they overlap quite a bit (as the paper itself shows).

I have been studying how to measure skill for years and have published several papers on the topic (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webuse.org/papers?id=survey-measures-of-web-oriented-digital-literacy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s one example, an &lt;a href=&quot;http://ssc.sagepub.com/cgi/rapidpdf/0894439308318213v1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;update &lt;/a&gt; of which is coming out soon - accessing the latter requires subscription).  It&#039;s going to be hard to summarize all that in a short comment.

Basically, people are asked to rate their level of understanding of various Internet-related items on a five-point scale.  These items range from widely-known terms such as bookmark and reload to much less understood items such as widget and malware. I then create an index of the sum of these terms constituting a skill measure. While this still relies on self-perception of abilities, it is more highly correlated with actual skill than asking people to rate their own skill and it also gives us a bit more nuanced understanding of people&#039;s familiarity with the various aspects of using the Web.

RickM, thanks for posting to Reddit. I know the site well and use it often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The questions about skill are right on. Stephen (#6), I have <a href="http://www.webuse.org/papers?id=gender-differences-in-actual-and-perceived-skills" rel="nofollow">written </a> about gender and skill before. It&#8217;s complicated, but basically, women tend to rate their skills lower than men regardless of actual skill. This is why I emphasize in the discussion that we are either talking perceived or actual skill with respect to what may influencing sharing patterns.</p>

	<p>Others of you ask about how we measure skill.  Doug (#14), thanks for trying to explain. The examples you list could work, although some of them are, again, more about actual participation than skill per se.  It&#8217;s complicated, they overlap quite a bit (as the paper itself shows).</p>

	<p>I have been studying how to measure skill for years and have published several papers on the topic (<a href="http://www.webuse.org/papers?id=survey-measures-of-web-oriented-digital-literacy" rel="nofollow">here</a>&#8217;s one example, an <a href="http://ssc.sagepub.com/cgi/rapidpdf/0894439308318213v1" rel="nofollow">update </a> of which is coming out soon &#8211; accessing the latter requires subscription).  It&#8217;s going to be hard to summarize all that in a short comment.</p>

	<p>Basically, people are asked to rate their level of understanding of various Internet-related items on a five-point scale.  These items range from widely-known terms such as bookmark and reload to much less understood items such as widget and malware. I then create an index of the sum of these terms constituting a skill measure. While this still relies on self-perception of abilities, it is more highly correlated with actual skill than asking people to rate their own skill and it also gives us a bit more nuanced understanding of people&#8217;s familiarity with the various aspects of using the Web.</p>

	<p>RickM, thanks for posting to Reddit. I know the site well and use it often.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/25/gender-differences-in-sharing-creative-content-online/comment-page-1/#comment-244484</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 8, 6, etc: Having read some of Eszter&#039;s work before, I&#039;m going to guess that online skill is a reasonably clear metric based on how the survey participants answered questions abuot their online activities. Things like have you ever commented on a blog, have you ever posted to a blog, have you ever set up a blog, if so  was it from scratch or with a template, have you written a custom add-on to MT or WP. That would set up a continuum of technical blogging skills. Similar sets of questions for other related areas; add &#039;em up and you&#039;ve got a measurement of online skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>re 8, 6, etc: Having read some of Eszter&#8217;s work before, I&#8217;m going to guess that online skill is a reasonably clear metric based on how the survey participants answered questions abuot their online activities. Things like have you ever commented on a blog, have you ever posted to a blog, have you ever set up a blog, if so  was it from scratch or with a template, have you written a custom add-on to MT or WP. That would set up a continuum of technical blogging skills. Similar sets of questions for other related areas; add &#8216;em up and you&#8217;ve got a measurement of online skill.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly. If (for the sake of argument) the women on average are more introvert than men, why should it be framed as &quot;less willing to share&quot;; why not, say, &quot;not as obnoxious&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Silly. If (for the sake of argument) the women on average are more introvert than men, why should it be framed as &#8220;less willing to share&#8221;; why not, say, &#8220;not as obnoxious&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: vivian</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;whereas females—even those who regularly have exceptionally good points to make—tend to hold back for some reason &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.xkcd.com/385/&quot; title=&quot;XKCD beat us all to it yet again...&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; http://www.xkcd.com/385/ &lt;/a&gt; As usual, XKCD describes this really well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>whereas females&#8212;even those who regularly have exceptionally good points to make&#8212;tend to hold back for some reason </i></p>

	<p><a href="http://www.xkcd.com/385/" title="XKCD beat us all to it yet again..." rel="nofollow"> </a><a href="http://www.xkcd.com/385/" rel="nofollow">http://www.xkcd.com/385/</a>  As usual, <span class="caps">XKCD</span> describes this really well.</p>
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		<title>By: jliedl</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/25/gender-differences-in-sharing-creative-content-online/comment-page-1/#comment-244469</link>
		<dc:creator>jliedl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, when you share stuff on the internet, no one needs to know you&#039;re female unless it involves video or audio of the real you. Then you&#039;re busted and sometimes that&#039;s really annoying.

I&#039;m glad to hear that you&#039;re following up on the gender-specific possibilities of privacy concerns: certainly my experience in working with a woman-oriented dotcom taught me that women were far more worried than men about posting their images online. Can&#039;t wait to see that follow-up study!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You know, when you share stuff on the internet, no one needs to know you&#8217;re female unless it involves video or audio of the real you. Then you&#8217;re busted and sometimes that&#8217;s really annoying.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear that you&#8217;re following up on the gender-specific possibilities of privacy concerns: certainly my experience in working with a woman-oriented dotcom taught me that women were far more worried than men about posting their images online. Can&#8217;t wait to see that follow-up study!</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Smith</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/25/gender-differences-in-sharing-creative-content-online/comment-page-1/#comment-244467</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No no no no no. 

Look, after several years of teaching, I can say with a fair degree of confidence that (well, at least among college-age individuals), males are a lot more willing to blurt out the first thing that comes into their pretty little heads, whereas females--even those who regularly have exceptionally good points to make--tend to hold back for some reason, seemingly until they are more sure about their points. Females tend to be more...(roughly) circumspect. Guys are more likely to just blurt it out, for better or worse.

Anyway, a big part of blogging is blurting out whatever BS happens to be flitting through your head at that moment. Maybe &quot;online skill&quot; has something to do with it, but I&#039;ll bet you a big wad o&#039; cash that that&#039;s not the most important factor. I mean, cripes, how hard is it to use Blogger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No no no no no.</p>

	<p>Look, after several years of teaching, I can say with a fair degree of confidence that (well, at least among college-age individuals), males are a lot more willing to blurt out the first thing that comes into their pretty little heads, whereas females&#8212;even those who regularly have exceptionally good points to make&#8212;tend to hold back for some reason, seemingly until they are more sure about their points. Females tend to be more&#8230;(roughly) circumspect. Guys are more likely to just blurt it out, for better or worse.</p>

	<p>Anyway, a big part of blogging is blurting out whatever BS happens to be flitting through your head at that moment. Maybe &#8220;online skill&#8221; has something to do with it, but I&#8217;ll bet you a big wad o&#8217; cash that that&#8217;s not the most important factor. I mean, cripes, how hard is it to use Blogger?</p>
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		<title>By: Aulus Gellius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aulus Gellius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In fact, once skill is in the model, gender is no longer a significant predictor of posting one’s material.&lt;/i&gt;

Does this apply even for video? I would expect a part of the difference to be due to the kind of nasty responses women tend to get when they make pictures of themselves available online, and I wouldn&#039;t think online skill would change that (unless there&#039;s some effect of knowing where to post things or something. As someone really low on the &quot;online skill&quot; scale, I imagine there are some aspects here that I don&#039;t understand.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>In fact, once skill is in the model, gender is no longer a significant predictor of posting one&#8217;s material.</i></p>

	<p>Does this apply even for video? I would expect a part of the difference to be due to the kind of nasty responses women tend to get when they make pictures of themselves available online, and I wouldn&#8217;t think online skill would change that (unless there&#8217;s some effect of knowing where to post things or something. As someone really low on the &#8220;online skill&#8221; scale, I imagine there are some aspects here that I don&#8217;t understand.).</p>
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		<title>By: joe perez</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good question.

How do they measure skill? Especially at something like sharing photographs online! That factor seems inevitably subjective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That&#8217;s a good question.</p>

	<p>How do they measure skill? Especially at something like sharing photographs online! That factor seems inevitably subjective.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m not the only woman who&#039;s tried to stick with gender-neutral usernames/ etc. so as to avoid the harassment that can come with clearly identifying oneself as a woman online.   But given the methods used by the researchers here, that&#039;s not confounding the results here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I know I&#8217;m not the only woman who&#8217;s tried to stick with gender-neutral usernames/ etc. so as to avoid the harassment that can come with clearly identifying oneself as a woman online.   But given the methods used by the researchers here, that&#8217;s not confounding the results here.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So can we infer that you have also identified an &quot;online skill&quot; gender gap?

Also, what does &quot;online skill&quot; actually mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So can we infer that you have also identified an &#8220;online skill&#8221; gender gap?</p>

	<p>Also, what does &#8220;online skill&#8221; actually mean?</p>
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		<title>By: rickm</title>
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		<dc:creator>rickm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I submitted it to Reddit, which is like Digg without Youtube comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I submitted it to Reddit, which is like Digg without Youtube comments.</p>
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