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	<title>Comments on: Mickey Tax Update</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244594</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about Henry. What do you mean by &#039;pushback&#039;, &#039;pike&#039;, &#039;flack&#039; and &#039;boondoggle&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about Henry. What do you mean by &#8216;pushback&#8217;, &#8216;pike&#8217;, &#8216;flack&#8217; and &#8216;boondoggle&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: PeWi</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244568</link>
		<dc:creator>PeWi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the late GDR. It&#039;s currency was so weak, that you had to change 25 West German Marks into 25 East German Marks. Per day, and per person. and you were not allowed to take the money outside the country. You had to spend it in the GDR. 

I always wondered where this US government got it&#039;s ideas from...

Domestic spying, torture, human rights violations, ecological policies - it all makes sense now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This reminds me of the late <span class="caps">GDR</span>. It&#8217;s currency was so weak, that you had to change 25 West German Marks into 25 East German Marks. Per day, and per person. and you were not allowed to take the money outside the country. You had to spend it in the <span class="caps">GDR</span>.</p>

	<p>I always wondered where this US government got it&#8217;s ideas from&#8230;</p>

	<p>Domestic spying, torture, human rights violations, ecological policies &#8211; it all makes sense now.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244539</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why should The People be deprived of its share of the loot?&lt;/i&gt;

Because The People aren&#039;t intended to have a share?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Why should The People be deprived of its share of the loot?</i></p>

	<p>Because The People aren&#8217;t intended to have a share?</p>
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		<title>By: banned commenter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244538</link>
		<dc:creator>banned commenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why shorthanded Thermosphere Peony be depicts of itself shackle of theorize looped?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Why shorthanded Thermosphere Peony be depicts of itself shackle of theorize looped?</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244536</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Government or not&lt;/i&gt;

Government.  That&#039;s what the post is about.  Without government all of these organizations remain perfectly capable of ripping off tourists in order to pay for their own advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Government or not</i></p>

	<p>Government.  That&#8217;s what the post is about.  Without government all of these organizations remain perfectly capable of ripping off tourists in order to pay for their own advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: banned commenter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244527</link>
		<dc:creator>banned commenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Governors or notation, at learning it’s notables _absorptions._ Whelan youngster’re a touchier youngly havana to paychecks extreme forward allow kink of thinkers; in Italians, formats examines, younger oft payson morn forties eaters youngly icebergs-creativity situation downloading. Thatches’s a participants of therewith exploitations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Governors or notation, at learning it&#8217;s notables <em>absorptions.</em> Whelan youngster&#8217;re a touchier youngly havana to paychecks extreme forward allow kink of thinkers; in Italians, formats examines, younger oft payson morn forties eaters youngly icebergs-creativity situation downloading. Thatches&#8217;s a participants of therewith exploitations.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244516</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m with abb1, I like my vices pure and unalloyed.&lt;/i&gt;

Therefore the government should do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I&#8217;m with abb1, I like my vices pure and unalloyed.</i></p>

	<p>Therefore the government should do it.</p>
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		<title>By: virgil xenophon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244515</link>
		<dc:creator>virgil xenophon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with abb1, I like my vices pure and unalloyed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m with abb1, I like my vices pure and unalloyed.</p>
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		<title>By: banned commenter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244514</link>
		<dc:creator>banned commenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However is it absolution? Touched exiles to be millennium; why notre skillfully unneeded precipitated and do it honda andorra dirtiest?</description>
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		<title>By: c.l. ball</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244513</link>
		<dc:creator>c.l. ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re my #4, a few more Google searches and USG webpages later, I would have discovered that the 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/E8-12673.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) Program&lt;/a&gt; was authorized by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_reports&amp;docid=f:hr259.110.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;9/11 Commission Act of 2007&lt;/a&gt;. 

DHS &lt;i&gt;may&lt;/i&gt;charge a fee for ESTA now to recover the creation and implementation costs, but has not done so yet. The Mickey Tax Act would &lt;i&gt;authorize&lt;/i&gt; but &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; require DHS to tack up to a $10 travel promo charge if it wishes  to. It does not require it, but DHS may very well be lobbied to do so. 

Never the less, it is still a stupid and insulting  idea. Charging a tourist who has already come to the US in order to pay for marketing to get other tourists to come is absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Re my #4, a few more Google searches and <span class="caps">USG</span> webpages later, I would have discovered that the<br />
<a href="http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/E8-12673.htm" rel="nofollow">Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) Program</a> was authorized by the <a href="http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_reports&#038;docid=f:hr259.110.pdf" rel="nofollow">9/11 Commission Act of 2007</a>.</p>

	<p><span class="caps">DHS </span><i>may</i>charge a fee for <span class="caps">ESTA</span> now to recover the creation and implementation costs, but has not done so yet. The Mickey Tax Act would <i>authorize</i> but <i>not</i> require <span class="caps">DHS</span> to tack up to a $10 travel promo charge if it wishes  to. It does not require it, but <span class="caps">DHS</span> may very well be lobbied to do so.</p>

	<p>Never the less, it is still a stupid and insulting  idea. Charging a tourist who has already come to the US in order to pay for marketing to get other tourists to come is absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244512</link>
		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but &quot;libertarian equals contrarian&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>but &#8220;libertarian equals contrarian&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelby</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244511</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should be &quot;contrarian (does not equal) libertarian&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That should be &#8220;contrarian (does not equal) libertarian&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelby</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244510</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>contrarian  libertarian.  I&#039;m contrarian for fun, but libertarian from principle.  And you&#039;ll find damn few libertarians advocating a tax, or service charge, or anything else government-mandated, to benefit a specific industry.

Disney has done great harm around the world because Congress is its willing bitch (setting aside such offenses as &lt;i&gt;Song of the South&lt;/i&gt;). Libertarians are, for once, your ally on a policy matter. And if you actually want to debate the gun thing, we can do that, but I don&#039;t think Henry wants his thread hijacked any further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>contrarian  libertarian.  I&#8217;m contrarian for fun, but libertarian from principle.  And you&#8217;ll find damn few libertarians advocating a tax, or service charge, or anything else government-mandated, to benefit a specific industry.</p>

	<p>Disney has done great harm around the world because Congress is its willing bitch (setting aside such offenses as <i>Song of the South</i>). Libertarians are, for once, your ally on a policy matter. And if you actually want to debate the gun thing, we can do that, but I don&#8217;t think Henry wants his thread hijacked any further.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244509</link>
		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shelby reminds me that this is the kind of law one would expect libertarian shills to love, if it weren&#039;t for the unfortunate fact that it&#039;s a tax. After all, libertarians love contrarian logic - more guns=less murder, lower tax rates=more tax income, war=peace, etc. On contrarian principles they would be all for a tax on tourists to promote tourism. If only the people passing this law could have found a way to phrase it as a service charge, they could have got all the libertarian shills on side, just because its contrarian logic is so appealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>shelby reminds me that this is the kind of law one would expect libertarian shills to love, if it weren&#8217;t for the unfortunate fact that it&#8217;s a tax. After all, libertarians love contrarian logic &#8211; more guns=less murder, lower tax rates=more tax income, war=peace, etc. On contrarian principles they would be all for a tax on tourists to promote tourism. If only the people passing this law could have found a way to phrase it as a service charge, they could have got all the libertarian shills on side, just because its contrarian logic is so appealing.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/26/mickey-tax-update/comment-page-1/#comment-244508</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And we can have a gun-purchase rebate to subsidize the beneficial social consequences of gun ownership, such as reduced crime rates!&lt;/i&gt;

Mary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>And we can have a gun-purchase rebate to subsidize the beneficial social consequences of gun ownership, such as reduced crime rates!</i></p>

	<p>Mary?</p>
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