Comments on: Abominations of the World http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sun, 27 May 2012 09:08:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: bab http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248855 bab Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:31:30 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248855 <i>...when he says that a light will shine down—from somewhere—and give voters an epiphany to vote for him. I can’t even imagine what sort of context might have made that an appropriate thing to say</i> Yeah, and he had this weird facial expression right after he said it--the corners of his mouth suddenly shot up, giving him a kind of crazed/delighted countenance. Seriously, though, every single one of the quotes in the ad were plucked from a context that expressed the exact opposite sentiment, including "I have become a symbol...". It is understandable that your (honor-bound, chock-full-of integrity) opponent willfully misrepresents them; it is less forgivable when political reporters who set out to write stories about hubris do so. …when he says that a light will shine down—from somewhere—and give voters an epiphany to vote for him. I can’t even imagine what sort of context might have made that an appropriate thing to say

Yeah, and he had this weird facial expression right after he said it—the corners of his mouth suddenly shot up, giving him a kind of crazed/delighted countenance.

Seriously, though, every single one of the quotes in the ad were plucked from a context that expressed the exact opposite sentiment, including “I have become a symbol…”. It is understandable that your (honor-bound, chock-full-of integrity) opponent willfully misrepresents them; it is less forgivable when political reporters who set out to write stories about hubris do so.

]]> By: Bruce Baugh http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248768 Bruce Baugh Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:53:12 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248768 It may be worth noting that in addition to the true believers, there's a fairly large penumbra of people who aren't at all sure they believe in that stuff anymore...but aren't sure they <i>don't</i>, either, and who'd hate to find themselves on the wrong side if this is really it. It may be worth noting that in addition to the true believers, there’s a fairly large penumbra of people who aren’t at all sure they believe in that stuff anymore…but aren’t sure they don’t, either, and who’d hate to find themselves on the wrong side if this is really it.

]]> By: Alex http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248686 Alex Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:53:53 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248686 <em>Many believe he will be from the tribe of Dan</em> Davies. And you notice he's part of the Anglo-Dutch financial establishment and a self-declared liberal. I see the pattern. Many believe he will be from the tribe of Dan

Davies. And you notice he’s part of the Anglo-Dutch financial establishment and a self-declared liberal. I see the pattern.

]]> By: Lisa http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248668 Lisa Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:48:10 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248668 "I somehow doubt it will ever become a positive criterion for office." But pot smokers are a huge (and untapped) voting bloc. It's true that some of them--but only some of them--might forget to vote or lose their way on election night. But the dems are missing the boat on this one. Stoners, former stoners and those who, in their middle-aged nostalgia imagine that they used to be stoners could be the soccer moms of the '08 election. “I somehow doubt it will ever become a positive criterion for office.”

But pot smokers are a huge (and untapped) voting bloc. It’s true that some of them—but only some of them—might forget to vote or lose their way on election night. But the dems are missing the boat on this one. Stoners, former stoners and those who, in their middle-aged nostalgia imagine that they used to be stoners could be the soccer moms of the ‘08 election.

]]> By: George W http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248661 George W Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:48:38 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248661 thought = though A better, and somewhat bitter, question is this: now that we know (with reasonable, I hope, certainty) that we'll have a black president before a female president, will we have a gay president before a female president? I give no odds on that. thought = though

A better, and somewhat bitter, question is this: now that we know (with reasonable, I hope, certainty) that we’ll have a black president before a female president, will we have a gay president before a female president? I give no odds on that.

]]> By: George W http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248660 George W Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:45:27 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248660 Drug use ceased to be a (negative) criterion for the White House in 2000, when both aspirants artfully dodged the question. Now it's about as relevant as divorce, once a career limiting move too -- and maybe still, thought to a completely different and (inshallah) shrinking part of the electorate. I somehow doubt it will ever become a *positive* criterion for office, but bets are open for when the US will have its first gay president. I'd guess maybe 2024. California governorship, sooner (maybe immediately prior). Drug use ceased to be a (negative) criterion for the White House in 2000, when both aspirants artfully dodged the question. Now it’s about as relevant as divorce, once a career limiting move too—and maybe still, thought to a completely different and (inshallah) shrinking part of the electorate. I somehow doubt it will ever become a positive criterion for office, but bets are open for when the US will have its first gay president. I’d guess maybe 2024. California governorship, sooner (maybe immediately prior).

]]> By: Lisa http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248653 Lisa Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:33:56 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248653 #44—”what’s with the wanky guitar in the background?” Oh my God, this could be most brilliant campaign spot. Obama as Jimi Hendrix. Wonky 'Are You Experienced?' riff in the beginning, day-glo background...wavy, whirly montage of Obama. They can answer the question 'Have you ever been experienced' about Obama by saying 'No, Obama is not experienced.' Tagline: McCain: Tested, Tried, Experienced. Although I think it is a fair inference that anyone who grew up in Hawaii in the 80s and smoked pot tried shrooms at least once. But I'm not sure if that is quite enough to be experienced. #44—”what’s with the wanky guitar in the background?”

Oh my God, this could be most brilliant campaign spot. Obama as Jimi Hendrix. Wonky ‘Are You Experienced?’ riff in the beginning, day-glo background…wavy, whirly montage of Obama.

They can answer the question ‘Have you ever been experienced’ about Obama by saying ‘No, Obama is not experienced.’

Tagline: McCain: Tested, Tried, Experienced.

Although I think it is a fair inference that anyone who grew up in Hawaii in the 80s and smoked pot tried shrooms at least once. But I’m not sure if that is quite enough to be experienced.

]]> By: nick http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248645 nick Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:20:37 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248645 #44--"what’s with the wanky guitar in the background?" c'mon, dude, guitar wankery is objectively pro-Satan! #44—”what’s with the wanky guitar in the background?”

c’mon, dude, guitar wankery is objectively pro-Satan!

]]> By: herr doktor bimler http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248637 herr doktor bimler Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:51:22 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248637 <i>thinking of large numbers of your fellow citizens as dogs who mainly can be brought to heel by whistles.</i> No, no, no. The whistles tell the dog to head around the flock clockwise or anticlockwise, or to gather them into bunches. To bring the dog to heel, you shout out "Geddin behind ya mangy bugger!" or words to that effect. It is clear that Righteous Bubba has never been on a sheep farm. thinking of large numbers of your fellow citizens as dogs who mainly can be brought to heel by whistles.
No, no, no. The whistles tell the dog to head around the flock clockwise or anticlockwise, or to gather them into bunches. To bring the dog to heel, you shout out “Geddin behind ya mangy bugger!” or words to that effect.
It is clear that Righteous Bubba has never been on a sheep farm.

]]> By: Hume's Ghost http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248634 Hume's Ghost Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:15:20 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248634 Both of those are in response to the Baker piece. Both of those are in response to the Baker piece.

]]> By: Hume's Ghost http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248633 Hume's Ghost Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:14:27 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248633 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWelptlo4zM# "I am not sure what you mean ...all i was saying is that they apear to make BHO look as if he has the power of Anti Christ 666 " http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2051698/posts To: reg45 The more I hear Obama, the more he sounds like the Anti-Christ. Thank you, that is exactly what has been running through my mind. 16 posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:27:21 AM by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWelptlo4zM#

“I am not sure what you mean …all i was saying is that they apear to make BHO look as if he has the power of Anti Christ 666 ”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2051698/posts

To: reg45
The more I hear Obama, the more he sounds like the Anti-Christ.
Thank you, that is exactly what has been running through my mind.

16 posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:27:21 AM by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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]]> By: Hume's Ghost http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248632 Hume's Ghost Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:06:43 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248632 'satirizing Obama as “The One” in mock biblical terms, one that got a lot of play in the conservative blogosphere' No way in the world the Left Behind folks would get any other message from that, boy, that's for sure. It's not like their Antichrist starts the One World church or anything . ‘satirizing Obama as “The One” in mock biblical terms, one that got a lot of play in the conservative blogosphere’

No way in the world the Left Behind folks would get any other message from that, boy, that’s for sure. It’s not like their Antichrist starts the One World church or anything .

]]> By: George W http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248626 George W Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:18:33 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248626 Yikes. I certainly didn't catch the undertones, which, FWIW, make more sense to me than the race-mixing stuff alleged of McCain's last ad. One framework for considering such questions has become: did they say it about FDR too? I sort of think someone might have. Admittedly, there are a couple over-the-top Obama quotes in there, like when he says that a light will shine down -- from somewhere -- and give voters an epiphany to vote for him. I can't even imagine what sort of context might have made that an appropriate thing to say. Yikes. I certainly didn’t catch the undertones, which, FWIW, make more sense to me than the race-mixing stuff alleged of McCain’s last ad. One framework for considering such questions has become: did they say it about FDR too? I sort of think someone might have.

Admittedly, there are a couple over-the-top Obama quotes in there, like when he says that a light will shine down—from somewhere—and give voters an epiphany to vote for him. I can’t even imagine what sort of context might have made that an appropriate thing to say.

]]> By: William Berry http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248625 William Berry Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:00:31 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248625 So, Obama is the Anti-Christ, eh? Well, what about "McCain, collaborator"? (88,100 Google hits). Anti-Christ or traitor. Take your pick! So, Obama is the Anti-Christ, eh?

Well, what about “McCain, collaborator”? (88,100 Google hits).

Anti-Christ or traitor. Take your pick!

]]> By: H. http://crookedtimber.org/2008/08/05/abominations-of-the-world/comment-page-2/#comment-248622 H. Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:51:11 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=7297#comment-248622 <blockquote>(Some friends have urged me to write about getting out from under that shadow—but man, how do you even start?)</blockquote> Come on, write some about that?
(Some friends have urged me to write about getting out from under that shadow—but man, how do you even start?)

Come on, write some about that?

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