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		<title>By: TheWesson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/24/the-smartest-guy-in-the-room/comment-page-3/#comment-253607</link>
		<dc:creator>TheWesson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Smartest Guy in the Room&quot; might be suffering under a wrongheaded philosophy, or a philosophy which is wrong for our current situation.

See Brad DeLong on Greenspan&#039;s reasons for not trying to tamp down or limit the housing bubble ...  abjuration and penitence from DeLong...

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/09/delong-smackdow.html

Back to the original topic ...

Now, I don&#039;t know what Paulson&#039;s philosophy is, but maybe he should be sacked, simply because he has gotten the situation so wrong for a year and a half.  Maybe his guiding philosophy about this is half- or non-baked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Smartest Guy in the Room&#8221; might be suffering under a wrongheaded philosophy, or a philosophy which is wrong for our current situation.</p>

	<p>See Brad DeLong on Greenspan&#8217;s reasons for not trying to tamp down or limit the housing bubble &#8230;  abjuration and penitence from DeLong&#8230;</p>

	<p><a href="http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/09/delong-smackdow.html" rel="nofollow">http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/09/delong-smackdow.html</a></p>

	<p>Back to the original topic &#8230;</p>

	<p>Now, I don&#8217;t know what Paulson&#8217;s philosophy is, but maybe he should be sacked, simply because he has gotten the situation so wrong for a year and a half.  Maybe his guiding philosophy about this is half- or non-baked.</p>
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		<title>By: TheWesson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/24/the-smartest-guy-in-the-room/comment-page-3/#comment-253601</link>
		<dc:creator>TheWesson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;But I don’t understand the issues. Why has the US dollar gone up since January 2008? Makes no sense. Who could afford to buy large numbers of worthless dollars and store them, at this point?&quot;&gt;

Thanks for the analysis, JThomas.

The Chinese are still buying US dollars in the form of Treasury bonds at this point, I believe?  They are &quot;paying&quot; for them with their exports, subsidizing our lifestyle in the process.

James Fallows from The Atlantic seems to have thought about these issues ...

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200801/fallows-chinese-dollars&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><blockquote cite="But I don&#8217;t understand the issues. Why has the US dollar gone up since January 2008? Makes no sense. Who could afford to buy large numbers of worthless dollars and store them, at this point?"></blockquote></p>

	<p>Thanks for the analysis, JThomas.</p>

	<p>The Chinese are still buying US dollars in the form of Treasury bonds at this point, I believe?  They are &#8220;paying&#8221; for them with their exports, subsidizing our lifestyle in the process.</p>

	<p>James Fallows from The Atlantic seems to have thought about these issues &#8230;</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200801/fallows-chinese-dollars" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200801/fallows-chinese-dollars</a></p>
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		<title>By: J Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It is regrettable that in the new regime of currency debasement the Chinese may no longer desire to buy dollar-denominated US Treasury bonds, which I understand is a very bad thing indeed.&lt;/i&gt;

TheWesson, this is the part that I think isn&#039;t getting enough attention. This is what it was about all along.


Look at our balance of payments. Look at the exchange rates for currencies that aren&#039;t pegged to the dollar.

Since 2003 or so, the US dollar has lost about a third of its value against the euro, the hungarian forint, the brazilian real. It&#039;s gained a bit of that back in 2008. How can you have a dollar be worth 2/3 what it was on one market, and worth just as much as it used to be on another? Is that cause for currency speculation? No, the currencies that are pegged to ours fall into two groups. There are countries that vitally depend on exporting to us -- if they can&#039;t export to us they get massive unemployment and social unrest. So they are basicly subsidising their exports, they sell very cheap so that their workers can continue to work hard at low-paying jobs. And then there are countries that are waging economic warfare against us. 

Our trade balance continues to stay unbalanced. So we need foreigners to loan us money. If we want to continue our imports we need lots of loans.

There&#039;s a market in T-bills, but for various reasons we set the interest rates on them very very low. We cannot finance our imports that way.

So we came up with the idea of selling mortgages on homes. We persuaded foreigners with money that these would not default, that they were almost as safe as T-bills but they got much more interest. Foreigners bought lots of US houses, in big groups so the risk was spread out.

We decided that US houses were getting more and more valuable. Americans could buy a starter house and sell it pretty quickly for considerably more money. Then they&#039;d owe taxes on their profit unless they bought a more expensive house. So they bought another house that was worth more, and then sold it. The prices kept going up so we could get more money from foreigners to finance the same houses. Also we built new houses. We found more people to live in the houses and get mortgages. And this kept going until the foreigners decided they didn&#039;t want any more US home mortgages.

When the money dried up people had trouble getting new larger loans for their houses. So the houses stopped increasing in value. Many of them declined in value. We couldn&#039;t use that collateral to get loans from foreigners any more.

Then the companies that were supposed to sell mortgages to foreigners were in trouble. They had a lot of merchandise that they couldn&#039;t move. They were in immediate trouble because they were supposed to value their unsold inventory by &quot;mark-to-market&quot;. They were supposed to say it was worth what they could sell it for, which was something like 10%. If you look at it another way they shouldn&#039;t have to do that. If they just hold onto the mortgages themselves, something like 94% will probably come out fine. So they should be worth 94%, not 10%. Similarly, back when Ford had a whole lot of unsold merchandise they could have turned it all into company cars and profited that way.

So anyway, the companies who can&#039;t sell their houses to foreigners at anything like the price they want are in trouble, and they want the US government to buy their unsold inventory. 

So what are we going to do for foreign exchange? What can we do to get foreigners to keep giving us money? Unless we find something we&#039;ll have to depreciate the dollar a lot more. Imports will get more expensive. There may be a big surge in exports as foreigners buy up our cheap lumber, coal, oil, wheat, etc. Note that as food gets cheaper for foreigners to buy from us, it gets more expensive for use to keep for ourselves.

What about oil? If things get bad enough at some point we will switch from being an oil importing nation to an oil exporting nation. Oil is fungible, it gets shipped to those who can pay.

The immediate crisis -- the stuck credit market -- is a publicity stunt. It&#039;s hard to get foreign credit because foreigners no longer trust the dollar or US collateral. But the Fed can provide as much liquidity as they want. Within very broad limits they can print money. Nobody needs to do without a loan just because foreigners don&#039;t loan us the money. 

The bigger crisis -- the trade imbalance, that might get balanced for us against our will -- that one is serious. 

But I don&#039;t understand the issues. Why has the US dollar gone up since January 2008? Makes no sense. Who could afford to buy large numbers of worthless dollars and store them, at this point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>It is regrettable that in the new regime of currency debasement the Chinese may no longer desire to buy dollar-denominated <span class="caps">US </span>Treasury bonds, which I understand is a very bad thing indeed.</i></p>

	<p>TheWesson, this is the part that I think isn&#8217;t getting enough attention. This is what it was about all along.</p>


	<p>Look at our balance of payments. Look at the exchange rates for currencies that aren&#8217;t pegged to the dollar.</p>

	<p>Since 2003 or so, the US dollar has lost about a third of its value against the euro, the hungarian forint, the brazilian real. It&#8217;s gained a bit of that back in 2008. How can you have a dollar be worth 2/3 what it was on one market, and worth just as much as it used to be on another? Is that cause for currency speculation? No, the currencies that are pegged to ours fall into two groups. There are countries that vitally depend on exporting to us&#8212;if they can&#8217;t export to us they get massive unemployment and social unrest. So they are basicly subsidising their exports, they sell very cheap so that their workers can continue to work hard at low-paying jobs. And then there are countries that are waging economic warfare against us.</p>

	<p>Our trade balance continues to stay unbalanced. So we need foreigners to loan us money. If we want to continue our imports we need lots of loans.</p>

	<p>There&#8217;s a market in T-bills, but for various reasons we set the interest rates on them very very low. We cannot finance our imports that way.</p>

	<p>So we came up with the idea of selling mortgages on homes. We persuaded foreigners with money that these would not default, that they were almost as safe as T-bills but they got much more interest. Foreigners bought lots of US houses, in big groups so the risk was spread out.</p>

	<p>We decided that US houses were getting more and more valuable. Americans could buy a starter house and sell it pretty quickly for considerably more money. Then they&#8217;d owe taxes on their profit unless they bought a more expensive house. So they bought another house that was worth more, and then sold it. The prices kept going up so we could get more money from foreigners to finance the same houses. Also we built new houses. We found more people to live in the houses and get mortgages. And this kept going until the foreigners decided they didn&#8217;t want any more US home mortgages.</p>

	<p>When the money dried up people had trouble getting new larger loans for their houses. So the houses stopped increasing in value. Many of them declined in value. We couldn&#8217;t use that collateral to get loans from foreigners any more.</p>

	<p>Then the companies that were supposed to sell mortgages to foreigners were in trouble. They had a lot of merchandise that they couldn&#8217;t move. They were in immediate trouble because they were supposed to value their unsold inventory by &#8220;mark-to-market&#8221;. They were supposed to say it was worth what they could sell it for, which was something like 10%. If you look at it another way they shouldn&#8217;t have to do that. If they just hold onto the mortgages themselves, something like 94% will probably come out fine. So they should be worth 94%, not 10%. Similarly, back when Ford had a whole lot of unsold merchandise they could have turned it all into company cars and profited that way.</p>

	<p>So anyway, the companies who can&#8217;t sell their houses to foreigners at anything like the price they want are in trouble, and they want the US government to buy their unsold inventory.</p>

	<p>So what are we going to do for foreign exchange? What can we do to get foreigners to keep giving us money? Unless we find something we&#8217;ll have to depreciate the dollar a lot more. Imports will get more expensive. There may be a big surge in exports as foreigners buy up our cheap lumber, coal, oil, wheat, etc. Note that as food gets cheaper for foreigners to buy from us, it gets more expensive for use to keep for ourselves.</p>

	<p>What about oil? If things get bad enough at some point we will switch from being an oil importing nation to an oil exporting nation. Oil is fungible, it gets shipped to those who can pay.</p>

	<p>The immediate crisis&#8212;the stuck credit market&#8212;is a publicity stunt. It&#8217;s hard to get foreign credit because foreigners no longer trust the dollar or US collateral. But the Fed can provide as much liquidity as they want. Within very broad limits they can print money. Nobody needs to do without a loan just because foreigners don&#8217;t loan us the money.</p>

	<p>The bigger crisis&#8212;the trade imbalance, that might get balanced for us against our will&#8212;that one is serious.</p>

	<p>But I don&#8217;t understand the issues. Why has the US dollar gone up since January 2008? Makes no sense. Who could afford to buy large numbers of worthless dollars and store them, at this point?</p>
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		<title>By: bartkid</title>
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		<dc:creator>bartkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Let’s stipulate that he’s a smart guy.
I dispute that claim.  I forced myself to listen to the 2 hours and 19 minutes of congressional questioning of him, Bernake, and Cox on C-SPAN.  He may be smarter than Boehner and McCain, but Mr. Paulson came across as less swift than everyone who questioned him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>>Let&#8217;s stipulate that he&#8217;s a smart guy.<br />
I dispute that claim.  I forced myself to listen to the 2 hours and 19 minutes of congressional questioning of him, Bernake, and Cox on C-SPAN.  He may be smarter than Boehner and McCain, but Mr. Paulson came across as less swift than everyone who questioned him.</p>
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		<title>By: George Peabody</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Peabody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, my question: is Paulson smart enough to have seen this coming a couple of years ago and followed a personal strategy that allowed him to cash half a billion out of Goldman without paying taxes, and place himself in a position to control $700 billion with which to bail out his buddies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So, my question: is Paulson smart enough to have seen this coming a couple of years ago and followed a personal strategy that allowed him to cash half a billion out of Goldman without paying taxes, and place himself in a position to control $700 billion with which to bail out his buddies?</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To go right back to the beginning, when I said &quot;stipulate that Paulson is smart&quot;, I kind of had the idea that we shouldn&#039;t spend 100 or so comments on this point, since it doesn&#039;t really matter whether he is smart or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>To go right back to the beginning, when I said &#8220;stipulate that Paulson is smart&#8221;, I kind of had the idea that we shouldn&#8217;t spend 100 or so comments on this point, since it doesn&#8217;t really matter whether he is smart or not.</p>
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		<title>By: john in california</title>
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		<dc:creator>john in california</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2002 my brother told me this was going to happen and he&#039;s just a retired scientist that spends an  hour or so in the morning studing his stocks and paying attention to the constantly inflating prices of his SoCal neighbors real estate.  My point is that it didn&#039;t take some esoteric knowlegde of finance, just a common sense view of value vs income vs expected return on the lender&#039;s investment. No way it could add up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In 2002 my brother told me this was going to happen and he&#8217;s just a retired scientist that spends an  hour or so in the morning studing his stocks and paying attention to the constantly inflating prices of his SoCal neighbors real estate.  My point is that it didn&#8217;t take some esoteric knowlegde of finance, just a common sense view of value vs income vs expected return on the lender&#8217;s investment. No way it could add up.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Belmont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Belmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ScentOfViolets:
 Words like &quot;crafty&quot; are employed to get the distinction you and John Emerson are foundering around about.
Despicable smart people. To the outraged the despicable aspect outweighs any intelligence demonstrated.
 But there&#039;s a lot of admiration out there for those who can play the system to achieve their ends, regardless of what those ends carry, morally.
Rove is crafty enough to get Machiavellian trophies.
It&#039;s an old debate. The devil, in Christian mythology, is the craftiest of all beings. Sort of has to be, if you think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>ScentOfViolets:<br />
Words like &#8220;crafty&#8221; are employed to get the distinction you and John Emerson are foundering around about.<br />
Despicable smart people. To the outraged the despicable aspect outweighs any intelligence demonstrated.<br />
But there&#8217;s a lot of admiration out there for those who can play the system to achieve their ends, regardless of what those ends carry, morally.<br />
Rove is crafty enough to get Machiavellian trophies.<br />
It&#8217;s an old debate. The devil, in Christian mythology, is the craftiest of all beings. Sort of has to be, if you think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: J Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Kinda helps to have the media ready, willing, and eager to disseminate your propaganda while suffocating the other guy by refusing him equal air time. No, that’s not particularly smart.&lt;/i&gt;

If you happen to be lucky enough that all the odds are stacked on your side, then you can win without being smart. Doesn&#039;t say how smart you are then.

One of the most encouraging signs I see these days is National Enquirer is publicising up Palin and McCain scandals. If NE has deserted the GOP, can Fox News be far behind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Kinda helps to have the media ready, willing, and eager to disseminate your propaganda while suffocating the other guy by refusing him equal air time. No, that&#8217;s not particularly smart.</i></p>

	<p>If you happen to be lucky enough that all the odds are stacked on your side, then you can win without being smart. Doesn&#8217;t say how smart you are then.</p>

	<p>One of the most encouraging signs I see these days is National Enquirer is publicising up Palin and McCain scandals. If NE has deserted the <span class="caps">GOP</span>, can Fox News be far behind?</p>
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		<title>By: John  Emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John  Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said, SoV, for me &quot;smart&quot; is morally neutral. 

Evil does not necessarily prosper, but Rove sure did. There was an additional ingredient.

You are a moron, only in part because you do not understand why Rove was successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As I said, SoV, for me &#8220;smart&#8221; is morally neutral.</p>

	<p>Evil does not necessarily prosper, but Rove sure did. There was an additional ingredient.</p>

	<p>You are a moron, only in part because you do not understand why Rove was successful.</p>
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		<title>By: ScentOfViolets</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScentOfViolets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but in my opinion conflating what works (dependent on large part with what one can get away with) with smarts is not part of _my_ operational definition.  Nor do I consider doing unprincipled things with being &#039;smart&#039;.  If you wish, _you_ can say that the Swiftboating thing was evidence of smarts - smarts in the so-called real world sense even.

_I_  don&#039;t.  I call that despicable, and relying on an eagerly complicit media to spread such nastiness.  Kinda helps to have the media ready, willing, and eager to disseminate your propaganda while suffocating the other guy by refusing him equal air time.  No, that&#039;s not particularly smart.

Maybe you&#039;re thinking of when Rove blanketed South Carolina with ads describing how McCain had a black child out of wedlock,  that he was a closed homosexual, etc.  This is what you think is evidence that Rove is &#039;smart&#039;?  Again, to me, it looks an awful lot like &#039;unprincipled.&#039;  Not something that was particularly inspired or the result of some cerebral heavy lifting.

But . . . if that&#039;s your definition of smart, well, okay.  All I can say is, it&#039;s certainly not mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sorry, but in my opinion conflating what works (dependent on large part with what one can get away with) with smarts is not part of <em>my</em> operational definition.  Nor do I consider doing unprincipled things with being &#8216;smart&#8217;.  If you wish, <em>you</em> can say that the Swiftboating thing was evidence of smarts &#8211; smarts in the so-called real world sense even.</p>

	<p><em>I</em>  don&#8217;t.  I call that despicable, and relying on an eagerly complicit media to spread such nastiness.  Kinda helps to have the media ready, willing, and eager to disseminate your propaganda while suffocating the other guy by refusing him equal air time.  No, that&#8217;s not particularly smart.</p>

	<p>Maybe you&#8217;re thinking of when Rove blanketed South Carolina with ads describing how McCain had a black child out of wedlock,  that he was a closed homosexual, etc.  This is what you think is evidence that Rove is &#8216;smart&#8217;?  Again, to me, it looks an awful lot like &#8216;unprincipled.&#8217;  Not something that was particularly inspired or the result of some cerebral heavy lifting.</p>

	<p>But . . . if that&#8217;s your definition of smart, well, okay.  All I can say is, it&#8217;s certainly not mine.</p>
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		<title>By: John  Emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John  Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really silly. Rove is smart by any standard. He&#039;s uncredentialed, he may be uncultured, he may be no fun, but he&#039;s smart. He&#039;s in a ruthlessly competitive business where people don&#039;t have successful careers by luck, and where outwitting the other side is what wins the game, and where knowing a tremendous amount of detailed information was required.  He might even do poorly in a grad school seminar on voting behavior, but when the PhDs who aced the class went out into the world with their doctorates, if he didn&#039;t hire them he&#039;d whip their asses. I came to this conclusion after talking to a guy whose dissertation was was in part on voting behavior.

There&#039;s an alternate, purely academic definition of &quot;smart&quot;, but that&#039;s an inferior definition because it describes bright, clueless, highly verbal people as smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is really silly. Rove is smart by any standard. He&#8217;s uncredentialed, he may be uncultured, he may be no fun, but he&#8217;s smart. He&#8217;s in a ruthlessly competitive business where people don&#8217;t have successful careers by luck, and where outwitting the other side is what wins the game, and where knowing a tremendous amount of detailed information was required.  He might even do poorly in a grad school seminar on voting behavior, but when the PhDs who aced the class went out into the world with their doctorates, if he didn&#8217;t hire them he&#8217;d whip their asses. I came to this conclusion after talking to a guy whose dissertation was was in part on voting behavior.</p>

	<p>There&#8217;s an alternate, purely academic definition of &#8220;smart&#8221;, but that&#8217;s an inferior definition because it describes bright, clueless, highly verbal people as smart.</p>
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		<title>By: Markup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would one consider a person who smeared grease on pie pans &#039;smart&#039; ? 

Does the equation change if that person was able to make say $150k a year doing it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Would one consider a person who smeared grease on pie pans &#8216;smart&#8217; ?</p>

	<p>Does the equation change if that person was able to make say $150k a year doing it?</p>
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		<title>By: J Thomas</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/24/the-smartest-guy-in-the-room/comment-page-3/#comment-253446</link>
		<dc:creator>J Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOV, yes, until we define what it means to be smart then we&#039;re only talking 0pinion about who&#039;s smart. John Emerson is using it in a colloquial way, calling somebody smart if they&#039;re successful at something.

As to whether Rove was smart or had a simple pattern that worked and also he got lucky, we&#039;ll have to wait for historians. Like, if he was involved in passing forged information about Bush&#039;s military records to Dan Rather and then later exposed the forgery, I&#039;d have to say he was pretty smart. But if he didn&#039;t plan it then I guess he was just lucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">SOV</span>, yes, until we define what it means to be smart then we&#8217;re only talking 0pinion about who&#8217;s smart. John Emerson is using it in a colloquial way, calling somebody smart if they&#8217;re successful at something.</p>

	<p>As to whether Rove was smart or had a simple pattern that worked and also he got lucky, we&#8217;ll have to wait for historians. Like, if he was involved in passing forged information about Bush&#8217;s military records to Dan Rather and then later exposed the forgery, I&#8217;d have to say he was pretty smart. But if he didn&#8217;t plan it then I guess he was just lucky.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian is overpaid and I can say that with confidence without knowing how much he is paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sebastian is overpaid and I can say that with confidence without knowing how much he is paid.</p>
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