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		<title>By: J Thomas</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-2/#comment-253978</link>
		<dc:creator>J Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;    I have been disturbed lately by how few people I know seem to see a vote for John McCain as a moral wrong&quot;

&quot;    Wider agreement that it’s moral to vote than it is moral to vote for Obama over McCain. That this is true is a sign of the moral weakness of the Republic&quot;

&lt;i&gt;Are you of the opinion that the author and commenters who wrote these are just exaggerating for effect, that none of them really mean it? That would be some comfort, I guess.&lt;/i&gt;

Are you concerned that they&#039;re jumping the gun? I agree, we can&#039;t be sure how bad McCain would be just from what he says and what he&#039;s done. He could be lying. We should give him the benefit of the doubt to some extent.

Is it a moral failure to vote for McCain because you believe he isn&#039;t at all the way he portrays himself? Maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8221;    I have been disturbed lately by how few people I know seem to see a vote for John McCain as a moral wrong&#8221;</p>

	<p>&#8221;    Wider agreement that it&#8217;s moral to vote than it is moral to vote for Obama over McCain. That this is true is a sign of the moral weakness of the Republic&#8221;</p>

	<p><i>Are you of the opinion that the author and commenters who wrote these are just exaggerating for effect, that none of them really mean it? That would be some comfort, I guess.</i></p>

	<p>Are you concerned that they&#8217;re jumping the gun? I agree, we can&#8217;t be sure how bad McCain would be just from what he says and what he&#8217;s done. He could be lying. We should give him the benefit of the doubt to some extent.</p>

	<p>Is it a moral failure to vote for McCain because you believe he isn&#8217;t at all the way he portrays himself? Maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: RK</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-2/#comment-253950</link>
		<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems as though purely partisan political speech from the bully pulpit in front of the class might be a bad idea for the various reasons mentioned above, most notably the alienation of students whose view differ with yours.  However, I also agree with your statement about it being an almost immoral act to vote for McCain.  I think that some resolution of these two conflicting forces can be found in the following solution.   Academia is by nature a world which relies upon the marketplace of ideas to suss out the good from the bad.  Of course like any marketplace the marketplace of ideas must have certain ground rules in place to function.  For example falsity can not be knowingly be presented as truth.  One of the worst traits of  Republican politics in the US  is its eagerness not merely to ignore the necessary ground rules but to actively work to pervert them.  As the champions of thought, academia is certainly within its rights to aggressively push back against this embrace of ignorance.  Pure statement of preference for a candidate runs the risk of alienating those that disagree.  However, as a recent college graduate, I can say that students do not take their teachers statements, particularly in realms such as politics to be irrefutable.  Thus, a statement of preference justified and presented as an intellectual problem allows professors to seek to correct some of the market failures courted by the GOP while offering a groundwork for a truly enlightened political discussion to take place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It seems as though purely partisan political speech from the bully pulpit in front of the class might be a bad idea for the various reasons mentioned above, most notably the alienation of students whose view differ with yours.  However, I also agree with your statement about it being an almost immoral act to vote for McCain.  I think that some resolution of these two conflicting forces can be found in the following solution.   Academia is by nature a world which relies upon the marketplace of ideas to suss out the good from the bad.  Of course like any marketplace the marketplace of ideas must have certain ground rules in place to function.  For example falsity can not be knowingly be presented as truth.  One of the worst traits of  Republican politics in the <span class="caps">US </span> is its eagerness not merely to ignore the necessary ground rules but to actively work to pervert them.  As the champions of thought, academia is certainly within its rights to aggressively push back against this embrace of ignorance.  Pure statement of preference for a candidate runs the risk of alienating those that disagree.  However, as a recent college graduate, I can say that students do not take their teachers statements, particularly in realms such as politics to be irrefutable.  Thus, a statement of preference justified and presented as an intellectual problem allows professors to seek to correct some of the market failures courted by the <span class="caps">GOP</span> while offering a groundwork for a truly enlightened political discussion to take place.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Parker</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-2/#comment-253847</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Artemis, you raise an interesting point, but after perusing the linked article, I&#039;d say that the title is more alarmist than the contents (big surprise, eh!)  

With only 2 exceptions, students should have just as easy a time registering and voting at their permanent home addresses as anyone else; the complexities seem entirely related to their temporary-residence status.  And students are the only category of people  seeking temporary-residence voting status in large enough  numbers to be of interest to anyone.

Those two exceptions are MI and TN, where
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;first-time voters who register by mail are required to vote in person, making absentee voting impossible for students attending distant schools to vote in their hometowns.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That clearly &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a big hurdle, though it&#039;s not singling out students per se.  

One other, smaller, category that might be impaired is younger students, &lt;i&gt;if&lt;/i&gt; their state has in-person registration or confirmation requirements (though unlike the MI/TN situation it could be corrected the first time the student is home after reaching their 18th birthday.)  Does anyone know if this situation actually occurs anywhere?  Here in WA you can do a mail-only registration as long as you can supply a WA drivers license, WA ID card, or &lt;i&gt;social security number&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Artemis, you raise an interesting point, but after perusing the linked article, I&#8217;d say that the title is more alarmist than the contents (big surprise, eh!)</p>

	<p>With only 2 exceptions, students should have just as easy a time registering and voting at their permanent home addresses as anyone else; the complexities seem entirely related to their temporary-residence status.  And students are the only category of people  seeking temporary-residence voting status in large enough  numbers to be of interest to anyone.</p>

	<p>Those two exceptions are MI and TN, where<br />
<blockquote><i>first-time voters who register by mail are required to vote in person, making absentee voting impossible for students attending distant schools to vote in their hometowns.</i></blockquote></p>

	<p>That clearly <i>is</i> a big hurdle, though it&#8217;s not singling out students per se.</p>

	<p>One other, smaller, category that might be impaired is younger students, <i>if</i> their state has in-person registration or confirmation requirements (though unlike the MI/TN situation it could be corrected the first time the student is home after reaching their 18th birthday.)  Does anyone know if this situation actually occurs anywhere?  Here in WA you can do a mail-only registration as long as you can supply a WA drivers license, <span class="caps">WA ID</span> card, or <i>social security number</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Artemis</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-2/#comment-253830</link>
		<dc:creator>Artemis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I understand, there are &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/3j5aoc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some fairly significant stumbling blocks &lt;/a&gt; to students&#039; voter registration.  So as teachers, producing citizens, it still seems worthwhile to ask whether we should advocate for them to register.  And it doesn&#039;t have to be about Obama; it can be about the laws that say that bars must close at 2 AM or something that affects students but wouldn&#039;t be on the ballot at their parents&#039; address.  Does the problem change if we advocate that they register to vote in a particular place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>From what I understand, there are <a href="http://tinyurl.com/3j5aoc" rel="nofollow">some fairly significant stumbling blocks </a> to students&#8217; voter registration.  So as teachers, producing citizens, it still seems worthwhile to ask whether we should advocate for them to register.  And it doesn&#8217;t have to be about Obama; it can be about the laws that say that bars must close at 2 AM or something that affects students but wouldn&#8217;t be on the ballot at their parents&#8217; address.  Does the problem change if we advocate that they register to vote in a particular place?</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-1/#comment-253823</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the Princeton case (and putting aside andrew @ 16&#039;s point about 501 c restrictions), I think the comment &#039;Universities aren&#039;t the kind of institutions that should be in the partisan business&#039; points to the answer.  That is, there&#039;s no violation of core democratic principles were Princeton-the-private-institution to commit itself to support Obama - no harm done to the practice of politics in a democratic state.  But we would think less of Princeton-qua-university, as institutional partisanship is a poor partner for academic enquiry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>On the Princeton case (and putting aside andrew @ 16&#8217;s point about 501 c restrictions), I think the comment &#8216;Universities aren&#8217;t the kind of institutions that should be in the partisan business&#8217; points to the answer.  That is, there&#8217;s no violation of core democratic principles were Princeton-the-private-institution to commit itself to support Obama &#8211; no harm done to the practice of politics in a democratic state.  But we would think less of Princeton-qua-university, as institutional partisanship is a poor partner for academic enquiry.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-1/#comment-253816</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you want to claim that the views of those who don’t vote are completely different from those who do, go ahead—with some actual cites. &lt;/i&gt;

Action counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>If you want to claim that the views of those who don&#8217;t vote are completely different from those who do, go ahead&#8212;with some actual cites. </i></p>

	<p>Action counts.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Parker</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-1/#comment-253814</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last word (promise!):

If you want to claim that the views of those who don&#039;t vote are &lt;i&gt;completely different&lt;/i&gt; from those who do, go ahead--with some actual cites.  Until there, there&#039;s nothing unreasonable about using the presidential vote figures as a very quick-and-dirty proxy for the views of the population as a whole.  To boringly repeat myself, both the percentage figures and the swaps between R and D presidents show some kind of rough political parity.

And no, I wouldn&#039;t characterize &quot;expressing a concern about possible future harm&quot; as &quot;panicking&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My last word (promise!):</p>

	<p>If you want to claim that the views of those who don&#8217;t vote are <i>completely different</i> from those who do, go ahead&#8212;with some actual cites.  Until there, there&#8217;s nothing unreasonable about using the presidential vote figures as a very quick-and-dirty proxy for the views of the population as a whole.  To boringly repeat myself, both the percentage figures and the swaps between R and D presidents show some kind of rough political parity.</p>

	<p>And no, I wouldn&#8217;t characterize &#8220;expressing a concern about possible future harm&#8221; as &#8220;panicking&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-1/#comment-253810</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Are you of the opinion that the author and commenters who wrote these are just exaggerating for effect, that none of them really mean it?&lt;/i&gt;

I am of the opinion that you are panicking about what was written.  

If I tell you that X is a moral requirement and people don&#039;t do it that does not mean that they&#039;re beyond redemption, especially given that all people may not understand my reasons or arguments.

Further, I don&#039;t think the sanctions proposed for offenders - were there any? - extend to violence.

Your &quot;half the people&quot; formula is somewhat ridiculous as Bush&#039;s last vote total was 62,040,606.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Are you of the opinion that the author and commenters who wrote these are just exaggerating for effect, that none of them really mean it?</i></p>

	<p>I am of the opinion that you are panicking about what was written.</p>

	<p>If I tell you that X is a moral requirement and people don&#8217;t do it that does not mean that they&#8217;re beyond redemption, especially given that all people may not understand my reasons or arguments.</p>

	<p>Further, I don&#8217;t think the sanctions proposed for offenders &#8211; were there any? &#8211; extend to violence.</p>

	<p>Your &#8220;half the people&#8221; formula is somewhat ridiculous as Bush&#8217;s last vote total was 62,040,606.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Parker</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-1/#comment-253802</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bubba, did you read the original post or any of the comments?

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;voting ... for Obama/Biden ... is pretty close to a moral requirement&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;There’s really just the media and you, the universities, between civilization and chaos&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I have been disturbed lately by how few people I know seem to see a vote for John McCain as a moral wrong&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wider agreement that it’s moral to vote than it is moral to vote for Obama over McCain. That this is true is a sign of the moral weakness of the Republic&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Are you of the opinion that the author and commenters who wrote these are just exaggerating for effect, that none of them really mean it?  That would be some comfort, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bubba, did you read the original post or any of the comments?</p>

	<p><blockquote><i>voting &#8230; for Obama/Biden &#8230; is pretty close to a moral requirement</i></blockquote></p>

	<p><blockquote><i>There&#8217;s really just the media and you, the universities, between civilization and chaos</i></blockquote></p>

	<p><blockquote><i>I have been disturbed lately by how few people I know seem to see a vote for John McCain as a moral wrong</i></blockquote></p>

	<p><blockquote><i>Wider agreement that it&#8217;s moral to vote than it is moral to vote for Obama over McCain. That this is true is a sign of the moral weakness of the Republic</i></blockquote></p>

	<p>Are you of the opinion that the author and commenters who wrote these are just exaggerating for effect, that none of them really mean it?  That would be some comfort, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: harry b</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-1/#comment-253799</link>
		<dc:creator>harry b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extracting the snarkiness, and ignoring the final sentence, I basically agree with trailing wife on this. It is remarkably easy to register to vote in most States, and most students ought to have figured out how to and what they think. They (almost) all come from the more privileged 1/3rd of society (at Rutgers and UW Madison the most priviged 1/10th). I never encourage them to vote; I encourage them to consider the issues, learn what they can about them, and deliberate carefully, and to vote only if they have done so (I teach political philosophy, trailing wife, so I don&#039;t think it is odd to do this in my classes). 

It is fine, though, to reveal one&#039;s political opinions in class; but, if you think your opinions are likely to be widely shared, I think you have an obligation to figure out how not to alienate those who do not share them. In my experience right wing students do not feel oppressed by left wing professors, but they do find the self-righteous dismissal of their (often  unrefelective) peers irritating. I have some fellow feeling for them -- my entire undergraduate and graduate years were spent in institutions wth very right wing student bodies.

That said, I tend not to reveal my political opinions in large format classes. So much so that after the last Presidential election I recieved a vicious piece of hate email from one of my students who was furious about the election result and believed that I would be pleased by it. But I suspect that says more about the inattentiveness of said student than my classroom behaviour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Extracting the snarkiness, and ignoring the final sentence, I basically agree with trailing wife on this. It is remarkably easy to register to vote in most States, and most students ought to have figured out how to and what they think. They (almost) all come from the more privileged 1/3rd of society (at Rutgers and <span class="caps">UW </span>Madison the most priviged 1/10th). I never encourage them to vote; I encourage them to consider the issues, learn what they can about them, and deliberate carefully, and to vote only if they have done so (I teach political philosophy, trailing wife, so I don&#8217;t think it is odd to do this in my classes).</p>

	<p>It is fine, though, to reveal one&#8217;s political opinions in class; but, if you think your opinions are likely to be widely shared, I think you have an obligation to figure out how not to alienate those who do not share them. In my experience right wing students do not feel oppressed by left wing professors, but they do find the self-righteous dismissal of their (often  unrefelective) peers irritating. I have some fellow feeling for them&#8212;my entire undergraduate and graduate years were spent in institutions wth very right wing student bodies.</p>

	<p>That said, I tend not to reveal my political opinions in large format classes. So much so that after the last Presidential election I recieved a vicious piece of hate email from one of my students who was furious about the election result and believed that I would be pleased by it. But I suspect that says more about the inattentiveness of said student than my classroom behaviour.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-1/#comment-253790</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If we really do consider the other half of the country to be immoral and evil&lt;/i&gt;

Who thinks this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>If we really do consider the other half of the country to be immoral and evil</i></p>

	<p>Who thinks this?</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Parker</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-1/#comment-253787</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freelunch,

Ok, right, it&#039;s Nixon&#039;s public performance that I am concerned about here, and think compares favorably to today&#039;s tendency to demonize our political opponents.   Maybe it&#039;s just me; maybe all our current &quot;not my president&quot; or &quot;hey, those are &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; jets now&quot; stuff doesn&#039;t bother anybody else at all.  

But I do think they are signs, small though they might be, of a disintegrating body politic.  The fact that so many don&#039;t seem contented with &lt;i&gt;disagreeing with&lt;/i&gt; their domestic political opponents, and hopefully &lt;i&gt;winning elections&lt;/i&gt; against them, is very troubling.  If we really do consider the other half of the country to be immoral and evil, or feel the need to posture that way even if we don&#039;t actually feel that way, then yes indeed it is a movement in a dangerous direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>freelunch,</p>

	<p>Ok, right, it&#8217;s Nixon&#8217;s public performance that I am concerned about here, and think compares favorably to today&#8217;s tendency to demonize our political opponents.   Maybe it&#8217;s just me; maybe all our current &#8220;not my president&#8221; or &#8220;hey, those are <i>our</i> jets now&#8221; stuff doesn&#8217;t bother anybody else at all.</p>

	<p>But I do think they are signs, small though they might be, of a disintegrating body politic.  The fact that so many don&#8217;t seem contented with <i>disagreeing with</i> their domestic political opponents, and hopefully <i>winning elections</i> against them, is very troubling.  If we really do consider the other half of the country to be immoral and evil, or feel the need to posture that way even if we don&#8217;t actually feel that way, then yes indeed it is a movement in a dangerous direction.</p>
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		<title>By: CK Dexter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-1/#comment-253765</link>
		<dc:creator>CK Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So if it’s OK to encourage registration, but not to encourage voting for Obama, this can hardly be on narrowly consequentialist grounds.&quot;

True, but perhaps not a surprising or terribly problematic conclusion.  Everyone&#039;s a consequentialist in theory, but everybody&#039;s a deontologist in practice.  (Much like everyone&#039;s a moral relativist in theory, but a doctrinaire zealot in practice.)

This is a simple case of switching ethical approaches when it is convenient.  On this issue, since it concerns participation in a so-called democracy that falls somewhere between irremediably dysfunctional and purely virtual,  I see no point in quibbling about such inconsistency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;So if it&#8217;s OK to encourage registration, but not to encourage voting for Obama, this can hardly be on narrowly consequentialist grounds.&#8221;</p>

	<p>True, but perhaps not a surprising or terribly problematic conclusion.  Everyone&#8217;s a consequentialist in theory, but everybody&#8217;s a deontologist in practice.  (Much like everyone&#8217;s a moral relativist in theory, but a doctrinaire zealot in practice.)</p>

	<p>This is a simple case of switching ethical approaches when it is convenient.  On this issue, since it concerns participation in a so-called democracy that falls somewhere between irremediably dysfunctional and purely virtual,  I see no point in quibbling about such inconsistency.</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirk Parker @ 39
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;We’ve gone from Nixon not contesting any of the results in the razor-thin 1960 election...&quot;&gt; 

This is one of the more popular myths of the Republican party.  

Although Nixon did not publicly call for a recount.  The Replublican Party, with Nixon&#039;s private support, filed challenges in 11 different states.  They would have needed to succeed in both Illinois and in Texas or in various combinations of three or more states to change the outcome.  Instead, all of the challenges failed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Kirk Parker @ 39<br />
<blockquote cite="We&#8217;ve gone from Nixon not contesting any of the results in the razor-thin 1960 election..."></blockquote></p>

	<p>This is one of the more popular myths of the Republican party.</p>

	<p>Although Nixon did not publicly call for a recount.  The Replublican Party, with Nixon&#8217;s private support, filed challenges in 11 different states.  They would have needed to succeed in both Illinois and in Texas or in various combinations of three or more states to change the outcome.  Instead, all of the challenges failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/09/26/classroom-advoacy/comment-page-1/#comment-253737</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 03:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is “tit for tat” the best argument you’ve got?&lt;/i&gt;

Versus &quot;we&#039;re headed for civil war&quot; I didn&#039;t feel I needed to try too hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Is &#8220;tit for tat&#8221; the best argument you&#8217;ve got?</i></p>

	<p>Versus &#8220;we&#8217;re headed for civil war&#8221; I didn&#8217;t feel I needed to try too hard.</p>
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