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		<title>By: Kerim Friedman</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-2/#comment-257096</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerim Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google just announced that it will be offering libraries &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dancohen.org/2008/10/28/first-impressions-of-the-google-books-settlement/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;subscription access&lt;/a&gt; to out-of-print (but still under copyright) books which it has scanned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Google just announced that it will be offering libraries <a href="http://www.dancohen.org/2008/10/28/first-impressions-of-the-google-books-settlement/" rel="nofollow">subscription access</a> to out-of-print (but still under copyright) books which it has scanned.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mark Ockerbloom</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-2/#comment-256741</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mark Ockerbloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I love the humanities as much as the sciences, maybe more, and deeply respect academics who contribute to the body of human knowledge in any field. That’s why I want to read their goddamn papers!&quot;

A lot of those academics work at institutions (or in fields) that have repositories that will serve those papers free to the world, if the academics care to deposit them there (and if they haven&#039;t already signed their rights away to a journal that won&#039;t let them do that.)

Here&#039;s one &lt;a href=&quot;http://repository.upenn.edu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;for my university&lt;/a&gt;, for instance.  (This one includes both open access papers and non-open-access dissertations, but several thousand of the items there are open access.)

If you write academic papers, you might want to look into what options you have for making your material available this way.   (You can also encourage academics you follow to do the same.)  Many publishers already allow their authors to self-archive their own papers in repositories like these, and some advocacy groups have also drawn up recommended contract addenda so that authors can reserve the right to do so, which I&#039;ve done myself in the past.

(Oh, and if you decide to go the open access route with a published  book of yours, past or present, you can also &lt;a href=&quot;http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/suggest/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;let me know about it&lt;/a&gt;, and I&#039;ll be happy to index and publicize it.  I&#039;ve already done that with the film studies books mentioned upthread.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I love the humanities as much as the sciences, maybe more, and deeply respect academics who contribute to the body of human knowledge in any field. That&#8217;s why I want to read their goddamn papers!&#8221;</p>

	<p>A lot of those academics work at institutions (or in fields) that have repositories that will serve those papers free to the world, if the academics care to deposit them there (and if they haven&#8217;t already signed their rights away to a journal that won&#8217;t let them do that.)</p>

	<p>Here&#8217;s one <a href="http://repository.upenn.edu/" rel="nofollow">for my university</a>, for instance.  (This one includes both open access papers and non-open-access dissertations, but several thousand of the items there are open access.)</p>

	<p>If you write academic papers, you might want to look into what options you have for making your material available this way.   (You can also encourage academics you follow to do the same.)  Many publishers already allow their authors to self-archive their own papers in repositories like these, and some advocacy groups have also drawn up recommended contract addenda so that authors can reserve the right to do so, which I&#8217;ve done myself in the past.</p>

	<p>(Oh, and if you decide to go the open access route with a published  book of yours, past or present, you can also <a href="http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/suggest/" rel="nofollow">let me know about it</a>, and I&#8217;ll be happy to index and publicize it.  I&#8217;ve already done that with the film studies books mentioned upthread.)</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Turnipseed</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-2/#comment-256735</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Turnipseed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JQ @54: That&#039;s the &lt;em&gt;least&lt;/em&gt; satisfactory solution. Before my wife started grad school, I seriously thought of joining (in addition to my memberships in PEN and the NBCC, plus various local museums/libraries--and the PIRGs, et. al. whom I can&#039;t resist at the doorstop) the American History Association and... you know: it would be cheaper to charter your home as a library and subscribe to JSTOR as a library--by &lt;em&gt;far&lt;/em&gt; than to join the range of journals from which a respectably curious person might like to read articles on JSTOR.

Of course, the best thing to do would be to just take extension classes from the cheapest local school from whose library you could get JSTOR access... which I have also considered (prior to my finding, thanks to you, that I can get the same access through the county library as I previously received through a major research university).

On the whole, I&#039;m pleased that I discovered my good luck, but agree with most of the other non-academics who read this site: &quot;it&#039;s a real mother to get access to the (mostly state-subsidized) fruits of academic research.&quot; 

Don&#039;t even get me started on conferences...

Of course, as a freelance journalist (now and then), it&#039;s also a real mother not to have a big newspaper picking up the tab for, say, Nexis. Or to be outside the loop on academic desk copies (do they still do that?). Or a host of other things.

Basically, what everyone who bitches about these things bitches about is that, while we don&#039;t really bitch too loudly about not having an Idra-Presse 5000 ton die cast machine in our garage (it wouldn&#039;t fit, but...), we&#039;d sure like to have the equivalent in intellectual resources. Precisely because &lt;em&gt;intellectual capital doesn&#039;t require the same kinds of investments and risks that physical capital does&lt;/em&gt;... in most cases. And the &#039;Net makes it painfully obvious that we have a long way to go in squaring this.

Which is why John H&#039;s post was so salacious-making: &quot;Oh, what we &lt;em&gt;wish&lt;/em&gt; we had... and how paltry what we grasp now is by comparison to what we&#039;d love to wrap our arms around.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">JQ </span>@54: That&#8217;s the <em>least</em> satisfactory solution. Before my wife started grad school, I seriously thought of joining (in addition to my memberships in <span class="caps">PEN</span> and the <span class="caps">NBCC</span>, plus various local museums/libraries&#8212;and the <span class="caps">PIR</span>Gs, et. al. whom I can&#8217;t resist at the doorstop) the American History Association and&#8230; you know: it would be cheaper to charter your home as a library and subscribe to <span class="caps">JSTOR</span> as a library&#8212;by <em>far</em> than to join the range of journals from which a respectably curious person might like to read articles on <span class="caps">JSTOR</span>.</p>

	<p>Of course, the best thing to do would be to just take extension classes from the cheapest local school from whose library you could get <span class="caps">JSTOR</span> access&#8230; which I have also considered (prior to my finding, thanks to you, that I can get the same access through the county library as I previously received through a major research university).</p>

	<p>On the whole, I&#8217;m pleased that I discovered my good luck, but agree with most of the other non-academics who read this site: &#8220;it&#8217;s a real mother to get access to the (mostly state-subsidized) fruits of academic research.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Don&#8217;t even get me started on conferences&#8230;</p>

	<p>Of course, as a freelance journalist (now and then), it&#8217;s also a real mother not to have a big newspaper picking up the tab for, say, Nexis. Or to be outside the loop on academic desk copies (do they still do that?). Or a host of other things.</p>

	<p>Basically, what everyone who bitches about these things bitches about is that, while we don&#8217;t really bitch too loudly about not having an Idra-Presse 5000 ton die cast machine in our garage (it wouldn&#8217;t fit, but&#8230;), we&#8217;d sure like to have the equivalent in intellectual resources. Precisely because <em>intellectual capital doesn&#8217;t require the same kinds of investments and risks that physical capital does</em>&#8230; in most cases. And the &#8216;Net makes it painfully obvious that we have a long way to go in squaring this.</p>

	<p>Which is why John H&#8217;s post was so salacious-making: &#8220;Oh, what we <em>wish</em> we had&#8230; and how paltry what we grasp now is by comparison to what we&#8217;d love to wrap our arms around.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-2/#comment-256731</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a fully satisfactory solution, but societies like the American Economic Association will give you access to their archives (but only theirs) on JSTOR for a small additional charge when you join.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Not a fully satisfactory solution, but societies like the American Economic Association will give you access to their archives (but only theirs) on <span class="caps">JSTOR</span> for a small additional charge when you join.</p>
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		<title>By: sara</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-2/#comment-256723</link>
		<dc:creator>sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what happens to the texts when your time expires?

Are you merely locked out, or do they warp into unreadable ASCII or degrade into pixel dust?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So what happens to the texts when your time expires?</p>

	<p>Are you merely locked out, or do they warp into unreadable <span class="caps">ASCII</span> or degrade into pixel dust?</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-2/#comment-256721</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also RePeC.
http://repec.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There&#8217;s also RePeC.<br />
<a href="http://repec.org/" rel="nofollow">http://repec.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: matrullo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-2/#comment-256713</link>
		<dc:creator>matrullo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSTOR was conceived before Google. Google changed the model of access and awareness on the net. Still, one must note that in the very moment that the promise of open access to resources hitherto for all sorts of reasons unavailable made itself known, what actually happened was a cordoning off of resources by middlemen, basing their logic and business model on outmoded scarcities.

Unless I&#039;m mistaken, professors do not write articles for direct dollah compensation - if that&#039;s what they have been doing, what a sack of losers! Their value comes in other forms. 

JSTOR (and its many semblables, ARTstor, the Amica Library, etc.) are small beans middlemen offering to deliver knowledge as a commodity at the moment when this is no longer necessary.  It&#039;s a USian symptom, mostly. European scholars have been looking at other models that would no doubt cause certain epithets to spew from Ms. Palin and her aged drudo. 

See for example:

http://www.ec-petition.eu/
http://www.arl.org/sparc/

Peter Suber&#039;s blog is essential:
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/fosblog.html

Other initiatives:
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-10/icfs-isc101608.php
http://www.plos.org/
http://gslis.simmons.edu/podcasts/index.php?id=76
http://www.opendoar.org/
etc.

In the current environment, artificial markets in human cognition are not only unaffordable, they are absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">JSTOR</span> was conceived before Google. Google changed the model of access and awareness on the net. Still, one must note that in the very moment that the promise of open access to resources hitherto for all sorts of reasons unavailable made itself known, what actually happened was a cordoning off of resources by middlemen, basing their logic and business model on outmoded scarcities.</p>

	<p>Unless I&#8217;m mistaken, professors do not write articles for direct dollah compensation &#8211; if that&#8217;s what they have been doing, what a sack of losers! Their value comes in other forms.</p>

	<p><span class="caps">JSTOR </span>(and its many semblables, ARTstor, the Amica Library, etc.) are small beans middlemen offering to deliver knowledge as a commodity at the moment when this is no longer necessary.  It&#8217;s a USian symptom, mostly. European scholars have been looking at other models that would no doubt cause certain epithets to spew from Ms. Palin and her aged drudo.</p>

	<p>See for example:</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.ec-petition.eu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ec-petition.eu/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.arl.org/sparc/" rel="nofollow">http://www.arl.org/sparc/</a></p>

	<p>Peter Suber&#8217;s blog is essential:<br />
<a href="http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/fosblog.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/fosblog.html</a></p>

	<p>Other initiatives:<br />
<a href="http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-10/icfs-isc101608.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-10/icfs-isc101608.php</a><br />
<a href="http://www.plos.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.plos.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://gslis.simmons.edu/podcasts/index.php?id=76" rel="nofollow">http://gslis.simmons.edu/podcasts/index.php?id=76</a><br />
<a href="http://www.opendoar.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opendoar.org/</a><br />
etc.</p>

	<p>In the current environment, artificial markets in human cognition are not only unaffordable, they are absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-1/#comment-256711</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and just to be clear on my non-hypocrisy: If JSTOR offered personal subscriptions at a reasonable rate (Safari&#039;s rates are well within the &quot;reasonable range&quot;), I&#039;d buy one. But they don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, and just to be clear on my non-hypocrisy: If <span class="caps">JSTOR</span> offered personal subscriptions at a reasonable rate (Safari&#8217;s rates are well within the &#8220;reasonable range&#8221;), I&#8217;d buy one. But they don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-1/#comment-256710</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I accept that JSTOR can&#039;t just give access to everybody without anybody giving any money to JSTOR, since servers and copyright permissions aren&#039;t free. But the fact that Academia (as an entity) hasn&#039;t yet addressed the issue of JSTOR not having enough money to give free access to all reflects very badly on Academia. Specifically, it makes any claim to social and/or intellectual good as a primary goal a laughable and hypocritical lie. 

I am not one of those people who harrumphs about postmodernism or lesbian studies or whatever. I don&#039;t think that working for the good of society has to mean turning a profit. I love the humanities as much as the sciences, maybe more, and deeply respect academics who contribute to the body of human knowledge in any field. &lt;em&gt;That&#039;s why I want to read their goddamn papers!&lt;/em&gt; (And no, I can&#039;t just &quot;get a library card&quot;, because I live in a country where the only publicly-accessible subscribing library doesn&#039;t allow remote access, as far as I can tell.)

Making access to JSTOR free to all is more important than any individual conference, any individual laboratory. That institutions continue to hold conferences and build laboratories while telling those outside the walls to go eat library-card cake says something deeply unpleasant about the real priorities of today&#039;s higher education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I accept that <span class="caps">JSTOR</span> can&#8217;t just give access to everybody without anybody giving any money to <span class="caps">JSTOR</span>, since servers and copyright permissions aren&#8217;t free. But the fact that Academia (as an entity) hasn&#8217;t yet addressed the issue of <span class="caps">JSTOR</span> not having enough money to give free access to all reflects very badly on Academia. Specifically, it makes any claim to social and/or intellectual good as a primary goal a laughable and hypocritical lie.</p>

	<p>I am not one of those people who harrumphs about postmodernism or lesbian studies or whatever. I don&#8217;t think that working for the good of society has to mean turning a profit. I love the humanities as much as the sciences, maybe more, and deeply respect academics who contribute to the body of human knowledge in any field. <em>That&#8217;s why I want to read their goddamn papers!</em> (And no, I can&#8217;t just &#8220;get a library card&#8221;, because I live in a country where the only publicly-accessible subscribing library doesn&#8217;t allow remote access, as far as I can tell.)</p>

	<p>Making access to <span class="caps">JSTOR</span> free to all is more important than any individual conference, any individual laboratory. That institutions continue to hold conferences and build laboratories while telling those outside the walls to go eat library-card cake says something deeply unpleasant about the real priorities of today&#8217;s higher education.</p>
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		<title>By: roy belmont</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-1/#comment-256698</link>
		<dc:creator>roy belmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Herr Engels. 
 I&#039;m constrained to state here, forcibly, that is not for myself as the semi-ominously pseudonymed and paternal Lex would have it, not me whom I imagine in receipt of all that labouriously created intellectual property snatched from the careworn hands of starving authors, but for that ideal everyperson with the still-forming Great Idea gestating in his or her ravenous brain, analogously in need of trace minerals and vitamins, some prenatal nutrition for budding geniuses kind of thing.  Not me so much as them.
I mean it. I&#039;m an aesthete, not a scholar. I can get most of my desired intellectual-property free stuff from local libraries and Gutenberg and Bartleby and the LoC and the many other fine conscientious digital repositories and collections that caretake those parts of noosphere that are in the public domain, or are at least publicly available.
Still waiting for more detail/ammunition from my correspondent, whose campaign to free captive information from the oubliettes of commercial enterprise has been waging lo these many years.
Obviously I know much less than others here, John Quiggin clearly, about the material workings of JSTOR, but I know somewhat about freedom and intellectual process, and somewhat about the net and the struggle to prevent its subjugation by the agents of Mammon. 
I know enough about greed and what it&#039;s done to the things and people I love, and to what might have been, to be vigilant in that regard,.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thank you Herr Engels.<br />
I&#8217;m constrained to state here, forcibly, that is not for myself as the semi-ominously pseudonymed and paternal Lex would have it, not me whom I imagine in receipt of all that labouriously created intellectual property snatched from the careworn hands of starving authors, but for that ideal everyperson with the still-forming Great Idea gestating in his or her ravenous brain, analogously in need of trace minerals and vitamins, some prenatal nutrition for budding geniuses kind of thing.  Not me so much as them.<br />
I mean it. I&#8217;m an aesthete, not a scholar. I can get most of my desired intellectual-property free stuff from local libraries and Gutenberg and Bartleby and the LoC and the many other fine conscientious digital repositories and collections that caretake those parts of noosphere that are in the public domain, or are at least publicly available.<br />
Still waiting for more detail/ammunition from my correspondent, whose campaign to free captive information from the oubliettes of commercial enterprise has been waging lo these many years.<br />
Obviously I know much less than others here, John Quiggin clearly, about the material workings of <span class="caps">JSTOR</span>, but I know somewhat about freedom and intellectual process, and somewhat about the net and the struggle to prevent its subjugation by the agents of Mammon.<br />
I know enough about greed and what it&#8217;s done to the things and people I love, and to what might have been, to be vigilant in that regard,.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-1/#comment-256696</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We use this at the University I work at for our health professions books. Seems to work alright.  I&#039;d like to see a case study or two though to get a feel for how this plays out over a longer period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>We use this at the University I work at for our health professions books. Seems to work alright.  I&#8217;d like to see a case study or two though to get a feel for how this plays out over a longer period.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-1/#comment-256689</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@42 - that&#039;s government support, funnelled through the OU as it is through every Uni. That&#039;s why the rules are different for Wales and Scotland...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@42 &#8211; that&#8217;s government support, funnelled through the OU as it is through every Uni. That&#8217;s why the rules are different for Wales and Scotland&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/23/jstor-for-books/comment-page-1/#comment-256662</link>
		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, whether Roy is out of order in being pissed off with JSTOR... Part of JSTOR&#039;s job is to stop people like Roy from reading scholarly articles. In this respect, they are like the bouncer outside a private club. Maybe it is true that the bouncer is only doing his job, that it&#039;s the members or owners of the club who make the rules, but still... it&#039;s not too hard to understand why people might regard him as an arsehole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Also, whether Roy is out of order in being pissed off with <span class="caps">JSTOR</span>&#8230; Part of <span class="caps">JSTOR</span>&#8217;s job is to stop people like Roy from reading scholarly articles. In this respect, they are like the bouncer outside a private club. Maybe it is true that the bouncer is only doing his job, that it&#8217;s the members or owners of the club who make the rules, but still&#8230; it&#8217;s not too hard to understand why people might regard him as an arsehole.</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
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		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Not just one, but two, of the libraries I have cards to offer remote access to JSTOR.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;My handy-dandy Minneapolis Public Library card allows me to access JSTOR, download of PDFs, etcetera&lt;/i&gt;

Well, whoop-dee-doo! I stand by my supposition that many non-academics are no so fortunate. In London, for example, as far as I am aware, none of the council lending libraries have JSTOR access. The British Library has it, but only on-site.

If remote access can be licensed by libraries for its users at a low cost then I suppose it is those libraries who should shoulder most of the blame for not doing so, but the lack of remote access to JSTOR at the BL (which does offer remote access to other resources) makes me wonder whether this mightn&#039;t be because of licensing restrictions JSTOR imposes on them. PS. Downloading content from a library terminal onto a flash drive, as John suggests, would definitely not be permitted in many public libraries (eg. the British Library), I am pretty sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Not just one, but two, of the libraries I have cards to offer remote access to <span class="caps">JSTOR</span>.</i></p>

	<p><i>My handy-dandy Minneapolis Public Library card allows me to access <span class="caps">JSTOR</span>, download of PDFs, etcetera</i></p>

	<p>Well, whoop-dee-doo! I stand by my supposition that many non-academics are no so fortunate. In London, for example, as far as I am aware, none of the council lending libraries have <span class="caps">JSTOR</span> access. The British Library has it, but only on-site.</p>

	<p>If remote access can be licensed by libraries for its users at a low cost then I suppose it is those libraries who should shoulder most of the blame for not doing so, but the lack of remote access to <span class="caps">JSTOR</span> at the <span class="caps">BL </span>(which does offer remote access to other resources) makes me wonder whether this mightn&#8217;t be because of licensing restrictions <span class="caps">JSTOR</span> imposes on them. PS. Downloading content from a library terminal onto a flash drive, as John suggests, would definitely not be permitted in many public libraries (eg. the British Library), I am pretty sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The charge for a large library (typically one serving more than 1 million people with a budget in excess of $5 million) is $15K upfront and $5K/year&lt;/i&gt;

huh. I&#039;d not realized the price was that low. So, why would it be so hard to open access to the entire world? At those rates, $4 million/year would pay the fees for all the US and the EU, and we could stop faffing around begging friends to copy articles. Is this not a problem that could be solved with a small amount of political will and/or money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>The charge for a large library (typically one serving more than 1 million people with a budget in excess of $5 million) is $15K upfront and $5K/year</i></p>

	<p>huh. I&#8217;d not realized the price was that low. So, why would it be so hard to open access to the entire world? At those rates, $4 million/year would pay the fees for all the US and the EU, and we could stop faffing around begging friends to copy articles. Is this not a problem that could be solved with a small amount of political will and/or money?</p>
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