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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257263</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed &quot;B. Hussein O.&quot; a lot recently.  Google it -- you get a Children&#039;s Garden of Especially Special Wingnuttery.  Clever as hell, isn&#039;t it?  It&#039;s like you get to allude spookily to Saddam but also pinch your nose shut and giggle, intoning, nasally &quot;B ... O ...&quot;.  At the same time!

It gets old after about the 20th rep, though, and then we just want our milk and graham crackers, followed by a nap, and then doing something really creative with Elmer&#039;s glue and colored construction paper, teasing Shelley the whole time about how the glue looks like that booger that shot out her nose and onto her blouse earlier that day, out on the playground, when she laughed too hard after Tommy yelled, &quot;Red Rover Red Rover, let Benito Mussolini -- I mean Joe Biden -- come over!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve noticed &#8220;B. Hussein O.&#8221; a lot recently.  Google it&#8212;you get a Children&#8217;s Garden of Especially Special Wingnuttery.  Clever as hell, isn&#8217;t it?  It&#8217;s like you get to allude spookily to Saddam but also pinch your nose shut and giggle, intoning, nasally &#8220;B &#8230; O &#8230;&#8221;.  At the same time!</p>

	<p>It gets old after about the 20th rep, though, and then we just want our milk and graham crackers, followed by a nap, and then doing something really creative with Elmer&#8217;s glue and colored construction paper, teasing Shelley the whole time about how the glue looks like that booger that shot out her nose and onto her blouse earlier that day, out on the playground, when she laughed too hard after Tommy yelled, &#8220;Red Rover Red Rover, let Benito Mussolini&#8212;I mean Joe Biden&#8212;come over!&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: M. Gordon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257251</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon&#039;s corollary to Godwin&#039;s Law: Any person who refers to Barack Obama as &quot;Barack Hussein Obama&quot; is automatically disqualified from making any further rational contributions to the discourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Gordon&#8217;s corollary to Godwin&#8217;s Law: Any person who refers to Barack Obama as &#8220;Barack Hussein Obama&#8221; is automatically disqualified from making any further rational contributions to the discourse.</p>
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		<title>By: lemuel pitkin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257248</link>
		<dc:creator>lemuel pitkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks may not realize that ONDA is the same person who used to comment here as Lone Wacko (lonewacko.com now forwards to 24ahead.com). He doesn&#039;t really care about taxation -- it&#039;s all about the immigrants with him. Note his very low opinion of Bush, who was certainly no wealth-spreader but showed an altogether insufficient hatred of Mexicans. So, caveat lector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Folks may not realize that <span class="caps">ONDA</span> is the same person who used to comment here as Lone Wacko (lonewacko.com now forwards to 24ahead.com). He doesn&#8217;t really care about taxation&#8212;it&#8217;s all about the immigrants with him. Note his very low opinion of Bush, who was certainly no wealth-spreader but showed an altogether insufficient hatred of Mexicans. So, caveat lector.</p>
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		<title>By: tps12</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257206</link>
		<dc:creator>tps12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats to comment 4 for a textbook thread-derailing. Bonus points for spamming links to the commenter&#039;s own blog. That&#039;s how it&#039;s done, folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Congrats to comment 4 for a textbook thread-derailing. Bonus points for spamming links to the commenter&#8217;s own blog. That&#8217;s how it&#8217;s done, folks.</p>
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		<title>By: inigo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257194</link>
		<dc:creator>inigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That analogy, more accurately:

Roommate 1 makes a shedload of money, is pals with the local Ultimate Fighting club, has dirt on the landlord and is the only one with his name on the lease. He sublets to the other two at half the rent each, but whenever the utility bills fall due, he&#039;s either broke, nowhere to be seen, or says he&#039;ll deal with it and then doesn&#039;t, leaving Roommates 2 &amp; 3 to pick up his share plus the reconnection charges.

Roommate 2 has a reasonable job, can therefore cope with the expense and puts up with the hassle because she&#039;s too busy working to look for another apartment, but when she is home spends most of her energy berating Rommate 3 for not keeping the place neat and tidy enough.

Roommate 3 is a day labourer and usually ends up blowing his wages for a good week on catching up with the rent and bills for the previous month, then cadging $20 from Roommate 1 to keep himself afloat till his next shift. 

Roommate 1 is never done bitching about these loans, and keeps threatening to demand sexual favours in return. This makes Roommate 2 jealous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That analogy, more accurately:</p>

	<p>Roommate 1 makes a shedload of money, is pals with the local Ultimate Fighting club, has dirt on the landlord and is the only one with his name on the lease. He sublets to the other two at half the rent each, but whenever the utility bills fall due, he&#8217;s either broke, nowhere to be seen, or says he&#8217;ll deal with it and then doesn&#8217;t, leaving Roommates 2 &#038; 3 to pick up his share plus the reconnection charges.</p>

	<p>Roommate 2 has a reasonable job, can therefore cope with the expense and puts up with the hassle because she&#8217;s too busy working to look for another apartment, but when she is home spends most of her energy berating Rommate 3 for not keeping the place neat and tidy enough.</p>

	<p>Roommate 3 is a day labourer and usually ends up blowing his wages for a good week on catching up with the rent and bills for the previous month, then cadging $20 from Roommate 1 to keep himself afloat till his next shift.</p>

	<p>Roommate 1 is never done bitching about these loans, and keeps threatening to demand sexual favours in return. This makes Roommate 2 jealous.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257181</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble with the roommate analogy is that people usually choose their roommates.

Where they don&#039;t, or they don&#039;t get on, then you see people labelling their milk and having stand-up rows over a piece of bread. Not so much because of the value of the thing, but because it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;theirs&lt;/i&gt;.

I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll find very many situations in real life where nonfamily members are sharing accomodation with explicit redistribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The trouble with the roommate analogy is that people usually choose their roommates.</p>

	<p>Where they don&#8217;t, or they don&#8217;t get on, then you see people labelling their milk and having stand-up rows over a piece of bread. Not so much because of the value of the thing, but because it&#8217;s <i>theirs</i>.</p>

	<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll find very many situations in real life where nonfamily members are sharing accomodation with explicit redistribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257175</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Calabresi thing in the WSJ ends with this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Nothing less than the very idea of liberty and the rule of law are at stake in this election. We should not let Mr. Obama replace justice with empathy in our nation&#039;s courtrooms.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The poor guy is gonna strain his vocal cords if he&#039;s not careful.

Calabresi is a co-founder of the Federalist Society.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/01/politics/politicsspecial1/01federalist.html?pagewanted=all&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Quite a few Bush appointees have testified&lt;/a&gt; that, yes,  they are members of this group, thank you for asking, but also that they don&#039;t really know what the organization represents.  Or they say it&#039;s really just a kind of discussion group.   About law and the Constitution.  And stuff.

OK, right, so I go to the Federalist Society website, and I read their &quot;About&quot; page.  Which I suppose some of these Bush appointees never bothered to check before (or, for that matter, after) joining the society.  Even though one would think that they, as esteemed and ambitious professionals in the judicial branch of government, would tend to jealously guard their sterling reputations from any possible guilt-by-association smear, and thus carefully vet any organization that would have them as a member.

The Federalist Society &quot;About&quot; page starts off like this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;OUR PURPOSE: Law schools and the legal profession are currently strongly dominated by a form of orthodox liberal ideology which advocates a centralized and uniform society.  While some members of the academic community have dissented from these views, by and large they are taught simultaneously with (and indeed as if they were) the law.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;... and indeed as if they were ....&quot;  Yes, it really says that.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fed-soc.org/aboutus/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Go look&lt;/a&gt;.

These people are gonna strain their vocal cords if they aren&#039;t careful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That Calabresi thing in the <span class="caps">WSJ</span> ends with this:</p>

	<p><blockquote>&#8220;Nothing less than the very idea of liberty and the rule of law are at stake in this election. We should not let Mr. Obama replace justice with empathy in our nation&#8217;s courtrooms.&#8221;</blockquote></p>

	<p>The poor guy is gonna strain his vocal cords if he&#8217;s not careful.</p>

	<p>Calabresi is a co-founder of the Federalist Society.  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/01/politics/politicsspecial1/01federalist.html?pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">Quite a few Bush appointees have testified</a> that, yes,  they are members of this group, thank you for asking, but also that they don&#8217;t really know what the organization represents.  Or they say it&#8217;s really just a kind of discussion group.   About law and the Constitution.  And stuff.</p>

	<p>OK, right, so I go to the Federalist Society website, and I read their &#8220;About&#8221; page.  Which I suppose some of these Bush appointees never bothered to check before (or, for that matter, after) joining the society.  Even though one would think that they, as esteemed and ambitious professionals in the judicial branch of government, would tend to jealously guard their sterling reputations from any possible guilt-by-association smear, and thus carefully vet any organization that would have them as a member.</p>

	<p>The Federalist Society &#8220;About&#8221; page starts off like this:</p>

	<p><blockquote>&#8220;OUR <span class="caps">PURPOSE</span>: Law schools and the legal profession are currently strongly dominated by a form of orthodox liberal ideology which advocates a centralized and uniform society.  While some members of the academic community have dissented from these views, by and large they are taught simultaneously with (and indeed as if they were) the law.&#8221;</blockquote></p>

	<p>&#8220;&#8230; and indeed as if they were &#8230;.&#8221;  Yes, it really says that.  <a href="http://www.fed-soc.org/aboutus/" rel="nofollow">Go look</a>.</p>

	<p>These people are gonna strain their vocal cords if they aren&#8217;t careful.</p>
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		<title>By: Our next desperate attempt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Our next desperate attempt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, irony would be if an MSM reporter ends up being sent to Anchorage after one of the BHO-indoctrinated pre-teens (see my name&#039;s link) ends up ratting the reporter out after he shouts, &quot;I hate Obama!&quot; in his sleep.

I also note that neither Keith nor Western Dave were able to discuss any of the points I raised at the links above.

For instance, why was an &quot;honest conversation&quot; from Obama so full of lies? I&#039;m going to guess that 90% of those who heard what he said didn&#039;t realize how misleading he was being. No doubt his statements on other topics are full of lies, since those aren&#039;t the only lies I&#039;ve caught him in. For instance, he&#039;s repeatedly lied about Census Bureau and other statistics.

Change you can believe in, just as long as you&#039;re easily fooled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No, irony would be if an <span class="caps">MSM</span> reporter ends up being sent to Anchorage after one of the <span class="caps">BHO</span>-indoctrinated pre-teens (see my name&#8217;s link) ends up ratting the reporter out after he shouts, &#8220;I hate Obama!&#8221; in his sleep.</p>

	<p>I also note that neither Keith nor Western Dave were able to discuss any of the points I raised at the links above.</p>

	<p>For instance, why was an &#8220;honest conversation&#8221; from Obama so full of lies? I&#8217;m going to guess that 90% of those who heard what he said didn&#8217;t realize how misleading he was being. No doubt his statements on other topics are full of lies, since those aren&#8217;t the only lies I&#8217;ve caught him in. For instance, he&#8217;s repeatedly lied about Census Bureau and other statistics.</p>

	<p>Change you can believe in, just as long as you&#8217;re easily fooled.</p>
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		<title>By: John Holbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Holbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is everyone trained well enough to be able to provide the “answer”?&quot;

Ah, unintended irony. The spice of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Is everyone trained well enough to be able to provide the &#8220;answer&#8221;?&#8221;</p>

	<p>Ah, unintended irony. The spice of life.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257165</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Or is there some new Right Wing fantasy involving Obama being in the theater the night Lincoln was shot?&quot;

No way.  The imagination on you!  Haven&#039;t you heard?  He has an alibi.  He was somewhere else that night, cheating on John Wilkes Booth with another man.  There&#039;s a sworn deposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Or is there some new Right Wing fantasy involving Obama being in the theater the night Lincoln was shot?&#8221;</p>

	<p>No way.  The imagination on you!  Haven&#8217;t you heard?  He has an alibi.  He was somewhere else that night, cheating on John Wilkes Booth with another man.  There&#8217;s a sworn deposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Western Dave</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257164</link>
		<dc:creator>Western Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, it&#039;s a rehash of the immigration xenophobia that failed to sink McCain&#039;s candidacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nah, it&#8217;s a rehash of the immigration xenophobia that failed to sink McCain&#8217;s candidacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257156</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;things the MSM and even bloggers won’t discuss&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, now where onto the heart of the matter! This is about Michelle Obama and the African News Agency thing, right? Or is it Obama&#039;s imaginary girlfriend? Or is there some new Right Wing fantasy involving Obama being in the theater the night Lincoln was shot? Between this and the Marxist/Muslim nonsense, I can&#039;t keep track of which idiotic conspiracy theory you&#039;re spinning, ONDA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>things the <span class="caps">MSM</span> and even bloggers won&#8217;t discuss</i></p>

	<p>Ah, now where onto the heart of the matter! This is about Michelle Obama and the African News Agency thing, right? Or is it Obama&#8217;s imaginary girlfriend? Or is there some new Right Wing fantasy involving Obama being in the theater the night Lincoln was shot? Between this and the Marxist/Muslim nonsense, I can&#8217;t keep track of which idiotic conspiracy theory you&#8217;re spinning, <span class="caps">ONDA</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257139</link>
		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Maybe Rawls&#039; &#039;liberal equality&#039; would be a better point of reference...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>(Maybe Rawls&#8217; &#8216;liberal equality&#8217; would be a better point of reference&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice Meilleur</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/10/28/more-t-shirt-thoughts-wealth-spreading/comment-page-1/#comment-257138</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice Meilleur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;In addition to the above, Roommate1 turns over part of his paycheck to Roommate3 not for utilities, but for whatever loony things Roommate3 wants to buy at the same time as Roommate3 isn’t trying to earn more money to buy stuff with his own money.&lt;/em&gt;

Wait--socialism is where the poor, the sick, and the foreclosed quit their jobs and take their taxpayer money and head to Surf-n-Slide and the Dollar Store?

That is so cool. I wish I lived in socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><em>In addition to the above, Roommate1 turns over part of his paycheck to Roommate3 not for utilities, but for whatever loony things Roommate3 wants to buy at the same time as Roommate3 isn&#8217;t trying to earn more money to buy stuff with his own money.</em></p>

	<p>Wait&#8212;socialism is where the poor, the sick, and the foreclosed quit their jobs and take their taxpayer money and head to Surf-n-Slide and the Dollar Store?</p>

	<p>That is so cool. I wish I lived in socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
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		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Sorry, not close to starting-gate equality at all really, but perhaps bearing some comparison with it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>(Sorry, not close to starting-gate equality at all really, but perhaps bearing some comparison with it.)</p>
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