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	<title>Comments on: Kast Skoen</title>
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		<title>By: salient</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-261252</link>
		<dc:creator>salient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 04:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;From Bush ducking a shoe in Iraq to a discussi0n about Norwegian syntax referencing Ibsen in twelve short posts.&lt;/i&gt;

And meta within thirteen.</description>
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	<p>And meta within thirteen.</p>
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		<title>By: yoyo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-261247</link>
		<dc:creator>yoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m managing pretty well at 20 &quot;Vinkel&quot; and 22 &quot;Styrke&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m managing pretty well at 20 &#8220;Vinkel&#8221; and 22 &#8220;Styrke&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: footnoteHooligan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-261169</link>
		<dc:creator>footnoteHooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opportunist money-grubbers, eh? Ever-eager to coin a fast buck, even if that means kicking a bad man when he&#039;s down. There are quite enough shoe fetishists in the world as it is, thank you very much, without feeding further  their sweaty fantasies of world domination. Exactly the sort of thing likely to get the internet a good name. Confused? You should (shoed?) be. I am.

http://tinyurl.com/6dmnkb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Opportunist money-grubbers, eh? Ever-eager to coin a fast buck, even if that means kicking a bad man when he&#8217;s down. There are quite enough shoe fetishists in the world as it is, thank you very much, without feeding further  their sweaty fantasies of world domination. Exactly the sort of thing likely to get the internet a good name. Confused? You should (shoed?) be. I am.</p>

	<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6dmnkb" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6dmnkb</a></p>
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		<title>By: stostosto</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-261087</link>
		<dc:creator>stostosto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Bush ducking a shoe in Iraq to a discussi0n about Norwegian syntax referencing Ibsen in twelve short posts. These internets are a thing of wonders.</description>
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		<title>By: Ole Anders</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-261072</link>
		<dc:creator>Ole Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@10
To nit-pick on Jacob&#039;s linguistic nit-picking while &quot;kaste første skoen&quot; is valid Norwegian, so is &quot;kaste den første skoen&quot;. &quot;kaste den første sko&quot; on the other hand sounds like something from Ibsen, and while there is nothing wrong with that, I doubt it is something you would write or say today. [1]

Swedish is the same, both &quot;kasta den första skon&quot; and &quot;kasta första skon&quot; is good, while &quot;kasta den första sko&quot; would not work at all.

As for the difference between &quot;kaste den første skoen&quot; and &quot;kaste første skoen&quot; I would say the emphasis is slightly stronger in the first than in the second, but I cannot put into work exactly how.  Note that there is no semantic difference what-so-ever.

[1] Large differences exist between Norwegian dialects so it is possible this does not hold for all of the country.

praisgood @11
&#039;Shit&#039; does not need translating, and &#039;av&#039; does not mean anything in this context. Possibly the text may be &#039;shit au&#039;, which would make &#039;au&#039; a somwhat more established, but still very undefined modifier word. I would say it means something like &#039;Bad Luck!&#039; or &#039;Sorry&#039;, but a better translation/interpretation may exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@10<br />
To nit-pick on Jacob&#8217;s linguistic nit-picking while &#8220;kaste f&#248;rste skoen&#8221; is valid Norwegian, so is &#8220;kaste den f&#248;rste skoen&#8221;. &#8220;kaste den f&#248;rste sko&#8221; on the other hand sounds like something from Ibsen, and while there is nothing wrong with that, I doubt it is something you would write or say today. [1]</p>

	<p>Swedish is the same, both &#8220;kasta den f&#246;rsta skon&#8221; and &#8220;kasta f&#246;rsta skon&#8221; is good, while &#8220;kasta den f&#246;rsta sko&#8221; would not work at all.</p>

	<p>As for the difference between &#8220;kaste den f&#248;rste skoen&#8221; and &#8220;kaste f&#248;rste skoen&#8221; I would say the emphasis is slightly stronger in the first than in the second, but I cannot put into work exactly how.  Note that there is no semantic difference what-so-ever.</p>

	<p>[1] Large differences exist between Norwegian dialects so it is possible this does not hold for all of the country.</p>

	<p>praisgood @11<br />
&#8216;Shit&#8217; does not need translating, and &#8216;av&#8217; does not mean anything in this context. Possibly the text may be &#8216;shit au&#8217;, which would make &#8216;au&#8217; a somwhat more established, but still very undefined modifier word. I would say it means something like &#8216;Bad Luck!&#8217; or &#8216;Sorry&#8217;, but a better translation/interpretation may exist.</p>
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		<title>By: praisegod barebones</title>
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		<dc:creator>praisegod barebones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone translate &#039;Shit av&#039; for me?  (I gather from what follows that when its true I need to train more, but I&#039;m not sure why.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Can someone translate &#8216;Shit av&#8217; for me?  (I gather from what follows that when its true I need to train more, but I&#8217;m not sure why.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Christensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@doug 

Linguistic nit-picking: &quot;Skoen&quot; is the definite version (=&quot;the shoe&quot;) in Danish and Norwegian, so that would be &quot;kaste første skoen&quot; or &quot;kaste den første sko&quot;.  Swedish, on the other hand, uses a double definite article (&quot;kasta den första skon&quot;)

Btw, &quot;to shoe oneself&quot; (&quot;att sko sig&quot;) is the Swedish expression for looking after your own economic interests in an egoistic manner. Well...</description>
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	<p>Linguistic nit-picking: &#8220;Skoen&#8221; is the definite version (=&#8221;the shoe&#8221;) in Danish and Norwegian, so that would be &#8220;kaste f&#248;rste skoen&#8221; or &#8220;kaste den f&#248;rste sko&#8221;.  Swedish, on the other hand, uses a double definite article (&#8220;kasta den f&#246;rsta skon&#8221;)</p>

	<p>Btw, &#8220;to shoe oneself&#8221; (&#8220;att sko sig&#8221;) is the Swedish expression for looking after your own economic interests in an egoistic manner. Well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stostosto</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-261012</link>
		<dc:creator>stostosto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, I would like to ask Bush: &quot;Har du gjort det før?&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: stostosto</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-261009</link>
		<dc:creator>stostosto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>belle: 

I noticed the same thing. Bush was remarkably adroit, almost catlike. And it might come in handy for him looking forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>belle:</p>

	<p>I noticed the same thing. Bush was remarkably adroit, almost catlike. And it might come in handy for him looking forward.</p>
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		<title>By: belle waring</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-261004</link>
		<dc:creator>belle waring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for a bad president, Bush is a formidable shoe-ducker with excellent reflexes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>for a bad president, Bush is a formidable shoe-ducker with excellent reflexes.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-261000</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let he who is without win kast the first skoen.</description>
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		<title>By: Jacob Christensen</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-260999</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ben Alpers: That&#039;s Bokmål</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@Ben Alpers: That&#8217;s Bokm&#229;l</p>
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		<title>By: per</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-260994</link>
		<dc:creator>per</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just &quot;a Norwegian website&quot; but Norway&#039;s largest newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s not just &#8220;a Norwegian website&#8221; but Norway&#8217;s largest newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Alpers</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-260985</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Alpers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that Bokmal or Nynorsk?</description>
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		<title>By: vivian</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/12/16/news-you-can-use/comment-page-1/#comment-260982</link>
		<dc:creator>vivian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ten degrees, fast as you like, hits impressively well in the nose. (Best  link all day)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>ten degrees, fast as you like, hits impressively well in the nose. (Best  link all day)</p>
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