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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263260</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do they often not say this here?&lt;/i&gt;

Lots of American DVD screeners have this, but companies have realized that Russia and other countries do a lot of pirating so they now release &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R5_(bootleg)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;low-quality DVDs&lt;/a&gt; in those regions so they can realize quick cash before the pirates get their releases out.

And of course these become available back in America again without those screener subtitles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Do they often not say this here?</i></p>

	<p>Lots of American <span class="caps">DVD</span> screeners have this, but companies have realized that Russia and other countries do a lot of pirating so they now release <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R5_(bootleg)" rel="nofollow">low-quality DVDs</a> in those regions so they can realize quick cash before the pirates get their releases out.</p>

	<p>And of course these become available back in America again without those screener subtitles.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>_but the bootlegs are going to have “For Preview Only” across the bottom of the screen the whole time._  
Would that be unusual on a bootleged DVD in the US?  When I lived in Russia and took the train between Moscow and the city I lived in (a few times a month, usually), the &quot;first class&quot; cars showed movies.  If it wasn&#039;t a Soviet or Russian movie they _always_ said &quot;Review copy only- if you have bought this tape call 1800 no pirates&quot; or something like that on the bottom.  These were, of course, state-run trains.  I&#039;d assumed this was how most bootleg films were made, but I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever watched on in the US.  Do they often not say this here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><em>but the bootlegs are going to have &#8220;For Preview Only&#8221; across the bottom of the screen the whole time.</em><br />
Would that be unusual on a bootleged <span class="caps">DVD</span> in the US?  When I lived in Russia and took the train between Moscow and the city I lived in (a few times a month, usually), the &#8220;first class&#8221; cars showed movies.  If it wasn&#8217;t a Soviet or Russian movie they <em>always</em> said &#8220;Review copy only- if you have bought this tape call 1800 no pirates&#8221; or something like that on the bottom.  These were, of course, state-run trains.  I&#8217;d assumed this was how most bootleg films were made, but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever watched on in the US.  Do they often not say this here?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLemee</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263254</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott McLemee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well okay, but the bootlegs are going to have &quot;For Preview Only&quot; across the bottom of the screen the whole time. 

Maybe this could be marketed as an Extra Bonus Feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well okay, but the bootlegs are going to have &#8220;For Preview Only&#8221; across the bottom of the screen the whole time.</p>

	<p>Maybe this could be marketed as an Extra Bonus Feature.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bérubé</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263230</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bérubé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Scott, now let&#039;s bootleg the thing out of the back of your car.  C&#039;mon, you do have a car.  Admit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>OK, Scott, now let&#8217;s bootleg the thing out of the back of your car.  C&#8217;mon, you do have a car.  Admit it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLemee</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263226</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott McLemee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having now seen the film on DVD -- evidently Zeitgeist decided to risk it -- I&#039;d say that Michael is exactly right.  The trailer is nothing to judge it by. Which seems like stating the obvious, but sometimes you have to do just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Having now seen the film on <span class="caps">DVD </span>&#8212;evidently Zeitgeist decided to risk it&#8212;I&#8217;d say that Michael is exactly right.  The trailer is nothing to judge it by. Which seems like stating the obvious, but sometimes you have to do just that.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bérubé</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263136</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bérubé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, before people stomp too hard on that one line, let me explain a bit.  (Warning:  spoiler alert!  I&#039;m gonna ruin the suspense!)  Taylor asks Ronell whether philosophy involves a search for meaning, and Ronell bats the question away with some OK Zen-sounding stuff about how we shouldn&#039;t be reducing everything to meaning.  But she then follows this with the suggestion that meaning = fascism.  One wonders what Jonah Goldberg will do with this!  Let&#039;s just say I prefer Adorno&#039;s take on Beckett&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Endgame&lt;/i&gt; (in which he complains, justly, that the existentialist take on Beckett reduces meaninglessness to a kind of meaning).  Ronell then argues that ethics is bad too (and anxiety is its mood), because it reduces Otherness to a form in which we can know it . . . and therefore kill it.  There are two problems here:  one, Ronell paraphrases Levinas on the Other and pisses on ethics even though Levinas&#039; insistence on the ultimate unknowability of the Other is (for him) the basis of ethics; two, more pragmatically, one could counterargue that most of the historical record suggests that we kill Others not when we understand them but when we don&#039;t.

But definitely, definitely see the film.  You wouldn&#039;t think you could get a good sense of these philosophers&#039; ideas &lt;i&gt;and demeanors&lt;/i&gt; in ten-minute segments, but Taylor does a fabulous job.  Appiah defending cosmopolitanism in a pristine, airless airport; Nussbaum talking about disability and capability as children play on the Chicago lakefront; Sunaura Taylor and Butler talking about mobility as they thread their way through San Francisco, framed by all manner of wheeled conveyances.  Taylor has pulled off an exceptionally difficult task here, and she&#039;s done something of a public service to philosophy in the bargain.  IMHO.

And yeah, I&#039;ll blog about this sooner or later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey, before people stomp too hard on that one line, let me explain a bit.  (Warning:  spoiler alert!  I&#8217;m gonna ruin the suspense!)  Taylor asks Ronell whether philosophy involves a search for meaning, and Ronell bats the question away with some <span class="caps">OK </span>Zen-sounding stuff about how we shouldn&#8217;t be reducing everything to meaning.  But she then follows this with the suggestion that meaning = fascism.  One wonders what Jonah Goldberg will do with this!  Let&#8217;s just say I prefer Adorno&#8217;s take on Beckett&#8217;s <i>Endgame</i> (in which he complains, justly, that the existentialist take on Beckett reduces meaninglessness to a kind of meaning).  Ronell then argues that ethics is bad too (and anxiety is its mood), because it reduces Otherness to a form in which we can know it . . . and therefore kill it.  There are two problems here:  one, Ronell paraphrases Levinas on the Other and pisses on ethics even though Levinas&#8217; insistence on the ultimate unknowability of the Other is (for him) the basis of ethics; two, more pragmatically, one could counterargue that most of the historical record suggests that we kill Others not when we understand them but when we don&#8217;t.</p>

	<p>But definitely, definitely see the film.  You wouldn&#8217;t think you could get a good sense of these philosophers&#8217; ideas <i>and demeanors</i> in ten-minute segments, but Taylor does a fabulous job.  Appiah defending cosmopolitanism in a pristine, airless airport; Nussbaum talking about disability and capability as children play on the Chicago lakefront; Sunaura Taylor and Butler talking about mobility as they thread their way through San Francisco, framed by all manner of wheeled conveyances.  Taylor has pulled off an exceptionally difficult task here, and she&#8217;s done something of a public service to philosophy in the bargain.  <span class="caps">IMHO</span>.</p>

	<p>And yeah, I&#8217;ll blog about this sooner or later.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin G.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263129</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wankiness is the result, &lt;em&gt;vis a vis&lt;/em&gt;, I think, sesquipedalianism in its philosophical &lt;em&gt;modus&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wankiness is the result, <em>vis a vis</em>, I think, sesquipedalianism in its philosophical <em>modus</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Drake</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263109</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bafflement is the ground, &lt;i&gt;tout court&lt;/i&gt;, of perplexivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bafflement is the ground, <i>tout court</i>, of perplexivity.</p>
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		<title>By: rea</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263105</link>
		<dc:creator>rea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Anxiety is the mood, par excellence, of ethicity&lt;/i&gt;

Well, &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; baffling . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Anxiety is the mood, par excellence, of ethicity</i></p>

	<p>Well, <i>that&#8217;s</i> baffling . . .</p>
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		<title>By: parsimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>parsimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avital Ronell is just kind of like that, though, no?  In a world of her own.  Doesn&#039;t translate well to anything.  I haven&#039;t seen the film, but for reasons that are slightly unclear to me, I almost always give her a pass.  Why she was selected for this film is a question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Avital Ronell is just kind of like that, though, no?  In a world of her own.  Doesn&#8217;t translate well to anything.  I haven&#8217;t seen the film, but for reasons that are slightly unclear to me, I almost always give her a pass.  Why she was selected for this film is a question.</p>
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		<title>By: astrongmaybe</title>
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		<dc:creator>astrongmaybe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is it showing in NYC? I couldn&#039;t see it in any of the listings pages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Where is it showing in <span class="caps">NYC</span>? I couldn&#8217;t see it in any of the listings pages.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bérubé</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263056</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bérubé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It gets worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It gets worse.</p>
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		<title>By: wj</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263046</link>
		<dc:creator>wj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Berube writes: &quot;And Ronell is, well, not so good.&quot;

 Her quote from the trailer: 

&quot;Anxiety is the mood, par excellence, of ethicity...I think.&quot;

So profound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Berube writes: &#8220;And Ronell is, well, not so good.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Her quote from the trailer:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Anxiety is the mood, par excellence, of ethicity&#8230;I think.&#8221;</p>

	<p>So profound.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bérubé</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263034</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bérubé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw it the other night (I think the fact that both the Nussbaum and Butler segments are about disability is what led Ms. Taylor to have Zeitgeist send me a screener), and it&#039;s completely engaging.  Despite MQ @ 6, Cornel West is pretty damn good (that &quot;blues man in the life of the mind&quot; bit is his low point), Appiah (yes, &quot;Kwame&quot; Anthony Appiah) and Nussbaum are compelling (though I don&#039;t know about that music behind Nussbaum&#039;s segment -- tres weird), Žižek is very Žižek, Peter Singer comes off quite well (because he&#039;s talking exclusively about poverty and animal rights and not about disability), and the closing Sunaura Taylor / Judith Butler segment is great.  As for Michael Hardt, someone needs to tell him that Central Park is not in fact an &quot;aristocratic&quot; place in which to discuss revolution; Central Park is in fact one of the triumphs for Our Side, as Olmstead held off the Trumps and Helmsleys of his day and kept a huge chunk of Manhattan open to Teh People and off limits to development.  And Ronell is, well, not so good.   But you should wait to see for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I just saw it the other night (I think the fact that both the Nussbaum and Butler segments are about disability is what led Ms. Taylor to have Zeitgeist send me a screener), and it&#8217;s completely engaging.  Despite <span class="caps">MQ </span>@ 6, Cornel West is pretty damn good (that &#8220;blues man in the life of the mind&#8221; bit is his low point), Appiah (yes, &#8220;Kwame&#8221; Anthony Appiah) and Nussbaum are compelling (though I don&#8217;t know about that music behind Nussbaum&#8217;s segment&#8212;tres weird), Žižek is very Žižek, Peter Singer comes off quite well (because he&#8217;s talking exclusively about poverty and animal rights and not about disability), and the closing Sunaura Taylor / Judith Butler segment is great.  As for Michael Hardt, someone needs to tell him that Central Park is not in fact an &#8220;aristocratic&#8221; place in which to discuss revolution; Central Park is in fact one of the triumphs for Our Side, as Olmstead held off the Trumps and Helmsleys of his day and kept a huge chunk of Manhattan open to Teh People and off limits to development.  And Ronell is, well, not so good.   But you should wait to see for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Farmar</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/01/08/talking-heads-2/comment-page-1/#comment-263025</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Farmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve seen this in my local DVD rental place. I wonder how it&#039;ll stack up against &lt;i&gt;Derrida&lt;/i&gt; (which gave me a new respect for a thinker I&#039;d previously dismissed, in an ignorant curmudgeonly pshaw-that-Continental-nonsense-isn&#039;t-&lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt;-philosophy way)? I must check it out next time I have an evening free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;ve seen this in my local <span class="caps">DVD</span> rental place. I wonder how it&#8217;ll stack up against <i>Derrida</i> (which gave me a new respect for a thinker I&#8217;d previously dismissed, in an ignorant curmudgeonly pshaw-that-Continental-nonsense-isn&#8217;t-<i>real</i>-philosophy way)? I must check it out next time I have an evening free.</p>
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