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	<title>Comments on: The Bad Plus</title>
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		<title>By: Matt L</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265320</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was Ok. Not brilliant, but I am glad I listened to it. And two cheers for Barry! The bad plus cover was more pretentious than pink floyd! But I think they deserve a pat on the back for taking it on. 

In general, I like the Bad Plus. Its nice to have a group of people who play jazz standards based on the pop music I grew up listening to, instead of a bunch of songs from the 1930s that my grandparents listened to. I would not have much use for Jazz if it just remained fixated on covering the songs Ella Fitzgerald covered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I thought it was Ok. Not brilliant, but I am glad I listened to it. And two cheers for Barry! The bad plus cover was more pretentious than pink floyd! But I think they deserve a pat on the back for taking it on.</p>

	<p>In general, I like the Bad Plus. Its nice to have a group of people who play jazz standards based on the pop music I grew up listening to, instead of a bunch of songs from the 1930s that my grandparents listened to. I would not have much use for Jazz if it just remained fixated on covering the songs Ella Fitzgerald covered.</p>
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		<title>By: ejh</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265273</link>
		<dc:creator>ejh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 - by all means argue it then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#26 &#8211; by all means argue it then&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Holbo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265256</link>
		<dc:creator>John Holbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, gee, everyone, I still like that &quot;Comfortably Numb&quot; cover. But I do agree that the &quot;Radio Cure&quot; is still better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, gee, everyone, I still like that &#8220;Comfortably Numb&#8221; cover. But I do agree that the &#8220;Radio Cure&#8221; is still better.</p>
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		<title>By: cliff</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265245</link>
		<dc:creator>cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, Worst Cover Ever.


that was incredibly bad. so sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">OMG</span>, Worst Cover Ever.</p>


	<p>that was incredibly bad. so sad.</p>
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		<title>By: William U.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265237</link>
		<dc:creator>William U.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, that&#039;s funny.  I just picked up a flyer featuring The Bad Plus (with whom I&#039;m unfamiliar) because it also had The Books and Antony and the Johnsons.  My jazz enthusiast officemate saw this and disparaged The Bad Plus as a novelty act.  

But as far as cover bands go, I like Banjo or Freakout.  If you&#039;re familiar with Burial&#039;s &quot;Archangel,&quot; check out this lo-fi acoustic, shoegazy reworking:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/download/145462-on-repeat-banjo-or-freako%20ut-archangel-burial-cover-42-mp3s-streams</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Huh, that&#8217;s funny.  I just picked up a flyer featuring The Bad Plus (with whom I&#8217;m unfamiliar) because it also had The Books and Antony and the Johnsons.  My jazz enthusiast officemate saw this and disparaged The Bad Plus as a novelty act.</p>

	<p>But as far as cover bands go, I like Banjo or Freakout.  If you&#8217;re familiar with Burial&#8217;s &#8220;Archangel,&#8221; check out this lo-fi acoustic, shoegazy reworking:</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/download/145462-on-repeat-banjo-or-freako%20ut-archangel-burial-cover-42-mp3s-streams" rel="nofollow">http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/download/145462-on-repeat-banjo-or-freako%20ut-archangel-burial-cover-42-mp3s-streams</a></p>
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		<title>By: ben wolfson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265235</link>
		<dc:creator>ben wolfson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arguably, none of &lt;em&gt;The Night Watch&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;The Four Quartets&lt;/em&gt;, and &lt;em&gt;Pastoral&lt;/em&gt; are masterpieces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Arguably, none of <em>The Night Watch</em>, <em>The Four Quartets</em>, and <em>Pastoral</em> are masterpieces.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265230</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Started off like a bad Lou Reed imitation. I only made about a minute plus and quit to go read the snark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Started off like a bad Lou Reed imitation. I only made about a minute plus and quit to go read the snark.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith M Ellis</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265227</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith M Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, &lt;em&gt;your favorite band sucks&lt;/em&gt;.  It never gets old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ah, <em>your favorite band sucks</em>.  It never gets old.</p>
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		<title>By: ejh</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265226</link>
		<dc:creator>ejh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Wall&lt;/i&gt; is a masterpiece? What, like &lt;i&gt;The Night Watch&lt;/i&gt; or the &lt;i&gt;Four Quartets&lt;/i&gt; or the &lt;i&gt;Pastoral&lt;/i&gt; are masterpieces?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>The Wall</i> is a masterpiece? What, like <i>The Night Watch</i> or the <i>Four Quartets</i> or the <i>Pastoral</i> are masterpieces?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265225</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Aphex Twin&#039;s Flim.  Bad Plus covers it on These are the Vistas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, Aphex Twin&#8217;s Flim.  Bad Plus covers it on These are the Vistas.</p>
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		<title>By: Dougie</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265224</link>
		<dc:creator>Dougie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would do no harm to book them for the senior common room cocktail party, but if they played too many dirge-y, jazz-influenced covers of popular seventies classics I might have to go out for a cigarette for a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It would do no harm to book them for the senior common room cocktail party, but if they played too many dirge-y, jazz-influenced covers of popular seventies classics I might have to go out for a cigarette for a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265223</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this thread could be diverted to talking about the worst (and best) covers ever recorded. One of my votes would have to go to Keane&#039;s (nauseating) cover of (the brilliant) Walker Brothers song &lt;i&gt;The Sun Ain&#039;t Gonna Shine Anymore&lt;/i&gt;. Man, it&#039;s irritating that a band like that would ever be allowed near such a great song.

On the other hand, one of my favourite covers has to be Radiohead&#039;s live version of Can&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Thief&lt;/i&gt;, which is just phenomenally good (as one would expect). 

This does raise the question of what constitutes a good cover version. I&#039;d say the covering artist should have a strong sympathy with the original sentiment, and &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt; develop their own reading of the song. If this doesn&#039;t happen, then what often emerges is a superficial, trite version, or something so divergent that it should more accurately be called a variation on a theme (if that at all). Brad Mehldau&#039;s cover of Radiohead&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Paranoid Android&lt;/i&gt;, while very good, edges into this latter category, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Maybe this thread could be diverted to talking about the worst (and best) covers ever recorded. One of my votes would have to go to Keane&#8217;s (nauseating) cover of (the brilliant) Walker Brothers song <i>The Sun Ain&#8217;t Gonna Shine Anymore</i>. Man, it&#8217;s irritating that a band like that would ever be allowed near such a great song.</p>

	<p>On the other hand, one of my favourite covers has to be Radiohead&#8217;s live version of Can&#8217;s <i>Thief</i>, which is just phenomenally good (as one would expect).</p>

	<p>This does raise the question of what constitutes a good cover version. I&#8217;d say the covering artist should have a strong sympathy with the original sentiment, and <i>then</i> develop their own reading of the song. If this doesn&#8217;t happen, then what often emerges is a superficial, trite version, or something so divergent that it should more accurately be called a variation on a theme (if that at all). Brad Mehldau&#8217;s cover of Radiohead&#8217;s <i>Paranoid Android</i>, while very good, edges into this latter category, <span class="caps">IMO</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: sg</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265222</link>
		<dc:creator>sg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should be laws against this sort of cover. Strict laws with minimum sentencing guidelines, 1-strike-and-you&#039;re-out sorts of law-and-order approaches to butchering pink floyd. van Morrison should get the full brunt of it for murdering the same song at the Wall concert in his completely flat monotone, and Sinead O&#039;Connor should win the VC (can Irish girls do that?) for rescuing that concert (whose organisers possibly also deserve the full weight of the law). 

It&#039;s just wrong, I tell you, wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There should be laws against this sort of cover. Strict laws with minimum sentencing guidelines, 1-strike-and-you&#8217;re-out sorts of law-and-order approaches to butchering pink floyd. van Morrison should get the full brunt of it for murdering the same song at the Wall concert in his completely flat monotone, and Sinead O&#8217;Connor should win the <span class="caps">VC </span>(can Irish girls do that?) for rescuing that concert (whose organisers possibly also deserve the full weight of the law).</p>

	<p>It&#8217;s just wrong, I tell you, wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: John Holbo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265215</link>
		<dc:creator>John Holbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 05:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s rough, DN. We&#039;ll all be pulling for you here at CT in your difficult time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That&#8217;s rough, DN. We&#8217;ll all be pulling for you here at CT in your difficult time.</p>
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		<title>By: DN</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/07/the-bad-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-265214</link>
		<dc:creator>DN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 05:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am amazed how often it happens that I am innocently reading along in a blog, respecting the proprietor of said blog, and they go and recommend some music. I (foolishly) listen. The music really, truly sucks. And then it is hard to read the blog after that without the music getting in the way.  I&#039;ve got to learn to stop doing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I am amazed how often it happens that I am innocently reading along in a blog, respecting the proprietor of said blog, and they go and recommend some music. I (foolishly) listen. The music really, truly sucks. And then it is hard to read the blog after that without the music getting in the way.  I&#8217;ve got to learn to stop doing this.</p>
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