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		<title>By: fred lapides</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred lapides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been going to that site regularly and at times post at my site from theirs. What I liked about Chronicle of Higher Ed: the insert. Filled with good reading. But for reasons beyond me they do not sell just that section, or make it available for a charge on the Net. No longer in academia, I have no interest in subscribing to the full journal just to be able to get the fine insert. And IHE, because daily, has nothing remotely like the insert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have been going to that site regularly and at times post at my site from theirs. What I liked about Chronicle of Higher Ed: the insert. Filled with good reading. But for reasons beyond me they do not sell just that section, or make it available for a charge on the Net. No longer in academia, I have no interest in subscribing to the full journal just to be able to get the fine insert. And <span class="caps">IHE</span>, because daily, has nothing remotely like the insert.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bérubé</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bérubé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Finally, about the commentators….Yes, “grim” is the word, at times. But I like to think the site gives them a hobby, whereas they might otherwise be joining the militia or hording pieces of aluminum foil.&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, yes, the flypaper theory.  My own theory, which complements rather than competes with Scott&#039;s, is that Horowitz has them all typing away 14 hrs/day in a windowless room in Dayton, Ohio, and that they get paid $5 for every three comments.  I hope our new Secretary of Labor, Hilda Solis, will look into this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Finally, about the commentators&#8230;.Yes, &#8220;grim&#8221; is the word, at times. But I like to think the site gives them a hobby, whereas they might otherwise be joining the militia or hording pieces of aluminum foil.</i></p>

	<p>Ah, yes, the flypaper theory.  My own theory, which complements rather than competes with Scott&#8217;s, is that Horowitz has them all typing away 14 hrs/day in a windowless room in Dayton, Ohio, and that they get paid $5 for every three comments.  I hope our new Secretary of Labor, Hilda Solis, will look into this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Dresner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dresner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a longtime reader of, and ocassional commenter at, IHE, I&#039;d second the strong recommendation. It&#039;s true that the comments often run a very predictable line -- especially on issues of assessment and sports -- there are some useful bits in there as well, and it&#039;s always a pleasure when the subject of an article shows up to supplement the coverage! Even the predictable arguments can be useful illustrations of the state of debate on a subject.

I&#039;ve never read CHE except for the odd perusal of the front page in administrators&#039; offices, or when free pieces have been linked. It&#039;s like the Wall Street Journal: someone needs this information, but it&#039;s not me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As a longtime reader of, and ocassional commenter at, <span class="caps">IHE</span>, I&#8217;d second the strong recommendation. It&#8217;s true that the comments often run a very predictable line&#8212;especially on issues of assessment and sports&#8212;there are some useful bits in there as well, and it&#8217;s always a pleasure when the subject of an article shows up to supplement the coverage! Even the predictable arguments can be useful illustrations of the state of debate on a subject.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;ve never read <span class="caps">CHE</span> except for the odd perusal of the front page in administrators&#8217; offices, or when free pieces have been linked. It&#8217;s like the Wall Street Journal: someone needs this information, but it&#8217;s not me.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLemee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott McLemee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Home from the IHE office to have lunch, I find it intriguing to learn from David Coffin (#6) that my employer is &quot;a revenue-free operation&quot; with no reporting staff that mainly offers opinion pieces and can&#039;t compete with the &lt;em&gt;Chronicle&lt;/em&gt;&#039;s news coverage.

Having worked at both places, I am not without bias -- but also not without information.  Here is a bit of both.

The Chron has a much larger staff than IHE, and far more money.  This news market  was, for decades, more or less monopolistic.  That is no longer the case, but the accumulation of capital makes for a David-and-Goliath type situation.  Still, the one with the slingshot is doing pretty well. Over the past four years, CHE has been losing subscribers and laying people off, while IHE has grown on both counts at a very robust clip. As news-consumption habits change, this is likely to continue.

Any impression that IHE is &quot;revenue free&quot; must rest on the charming notion that all those ads (for TIAA CREF, say, or the listings for university jobs) are given away for free, like the links on a blogroll. Such is not in fact the case. A few months ago, IHE moved into a much larger office space. That was not because the landlord enjoys my column.
 
The vast majority of articles appearing at IHE each day consists of traditional journalistic coverage (unlike my own &lt;em&gt;feuilletonage&lt;/em&gt;) by people who have reported for newspapers.  They do not write opinion pieces.  Some of them are so old-school that they would probably break out in a rash at the thought.  You hear them on the phone, interviewing people about budgets and scandals and whatnot -- exactly like in the newsroom at the &lt;em&gt;Chronicle&lt;/em&gt;. 
 
One place where &lt;em&gt;nobody&lt;/em&gt; thinks Inside Higher Ed is lagging behind in covering the news is the &lt;em&gt;Chronicle itself&lt;/em&gt;.  IHE frequently beats the Chron on stories -- a situation that has made for a certain amount of excitement there, or so one hears.

IHE is now well established and keeps growing. The website redesign is only the most visible aspect of this.  Of course there are differences between the Chron and IHE, even apart from the absolute one regarding expense. (Nearly all Chronicle articles are behind a pay wall; none is at IHE.) The most important difference comes down to audience. The &lt;em&gt;Chronicle&lt;/em&gt; has always been edited with an eye primarily -- when not exclusively -- to university administrators. Inside Higher Ed has a rather broader readership, around 10 percent of which consists of people pursuing doctorates. 

Finally, about the commentators....Yes, &quot;grim&quot; is the word, at times. But I like to think the site gives them a hobby, whereas they might otherwise be joining the militia or hording pieces of aluminum foil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Home from the <span class="caps">IHE</span> office to have lunch, I find it intriguing to learn from David Coffin (#6) that my employer is &#8220;a revenue-free operation&#8221; with no reporting staff that mainly offers opinion pieces and can&#8217;t compete with the <em>Chronicle</em>&#8217;s news coverage.</p>

	<p>Having worked at both places, I am not without bias&#8212;but also not without information.  Here is a bit of both.</p>

	<p>The Chron has a much larger staff than <span class="caps">IHE</span>, and far more money.  This news market  was, for decades, more or less monopolistic.  That is no longer the case, but the accumulation of capital makes for a David-and-Goliath type situation.  Still, the one with the slingshot is doing pretty well. Over the past four years, <span class="caps">CHE</span> has been losing subscribers and laying people off, while <span class="caps">IHE</span> has grown on both counts at a very robust clip. As news-consumption habits change, this is likely to continue.</p>

	<p>Any impression that <span class="caps">IHE</span> is &#8220;revenue free&#8221; must rest on the charming notion that all those ads (for <span class="caps">TIAA CREF</span>, say, or the listings for university jobs) are given away for free, like the links on a blogroll. Such is not in fact the case. A few months ago, <span class="caps">IHE</span> moved into a much larger office space. That was not because the landlord enjoys my column.</p>

	<p>The vast majority of articles appearing at <span class="caps">IHE</span> each day consists of traditional journalistic coverage (unlike my own <em>feuilletonage</em>) by people who have reported for newspapers.  They do not write opinion pieces.  Some of them are so old-school that they would probably break out in a rash at the thought.  You hear them on the phone, interviewing people about budgets and scandals and whatnot&#8212;exactly like in the newsroom at the <em>Chronicle</em>.</p>

	<p>One place where <em>nobody</em> thinks Inside Higher Ed is lagging behind in covering the news is the <em>Chronicle itself</em>.  <span class="caps">IHE</span> frequently beats the Chron on stories&#8212;a situation that has made for a certain amount of excitement there, or so one hears.</p>

	<p><span class="caps">IHE</span> is now well established and keeps growing. The website redesign is only the most visible aspect of this.  Of course there are differences between the Chron and <span class="caps">IHE</span>, even apart from the absolute one regarding expense. (Nearly all Chronicle articles are behind a pay wall; none is at <span class="caps">IHE</span>.) The most important difference comes down to audience. The <em>Chronicle</em> has always been edited with an eye primarily&#8212;when not exclusively&#8212;to university administrators. Inside Higher Ed has a rather broader readership, around 10 percent of which consists of people pursuing doctorates.</p>

	<p>Finally, about the commentators&#8230;.Yes, &#8220;grim&#8221; is the word, at times. But I like to think the site gives them a hobby, whereas they might otherwise be joining the militia or hording pieces of aluminum foil.</p>
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		<title>By: TImothy Burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>TImothy Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The commentariat at IHE is pretty grim, but the main content is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The commentariat at <span class="caps">IHE</span> is pretty grim, but the main content is great.</p>
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		<title>By: AcademicLurker</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/23/you-know-about-inside-higher-ed-right/comment-page-1/#comment-267011</link>
		<dc:creator>AcademicLurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As a bonus, IHE has some of the most amusing trolls on the internet.&quot;

Yeah, IHE has a pretty dedicated crew of trolls. 

While I can understand, in general, why there is some resentment against academia, I&#039;m still amazed at people who are driven to frothing rage by the very idea that professors exist. 

I nearly ruined a perfectly good keyboard when I read one commenter explain that tuition increases are driven by the &quot;opulent lifestyles&quot; of faculty members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;As a bonus, <span class="caps">IHE</span> has some of the most amusing trolls on the internet.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Yeah, <span class="caps">IHE</span> has a pretty dedicated crew of trolls.</p>

	<p>While I can understand, in general, why there is some resentment against academia, I&#8217;m still amazed at people who are driven to frothing rage by the very idea that professors exist.</p>

	<p>I nearly ruined a perfectly good keyboard when I read one commenter explain that tuition increases are driven by the &#8220;opulent lifestyles&#8221; of faculty members.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks great - we need a British version. (Said regretfully as well as enthusiastically - I think the worlds are different enough that we really &lt;strong&gt;do&lt;/strong&gt; need a British version.)

Shameless bleg - anything in there about how to &lt;a href=&quot;http://gapingsilence.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/give-or-take-a-few/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sell out the hardback edition&lt;/a&gt; of a book that could sell in paperback (but not in hardback)? I&#039;m surely not the first person to have been in this position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Looks great &#8211; we need a British version. (Said regretfully as well as enthusiastically &#8211; I think the worlds are different enough that we really <strong>do</strong> need a British version.)</p>

	<p>Shameless bleg &#8211; anything in there about how to <a href="http://gapingsilence.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/give-or-take-a-few/" rel="nofollow">sell out the hardback edition</a> of a book that could sell in paperback (but not in hardback)? I&#8217;m surely not the first person to have been in this position.</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter Hargittai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eszter Hargittai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donald, no doubt CHE has a much bigger staff and more resources. But I don&#039;t know if their reporting is necessarily better on the whole.  (I&#039;ve seen lower quality material in both, just like both have good writing.)  

Kenny, I recommend not scrolling down.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Donald, no doubt <span class="caps">CHE</span> has a much bigger staff and more resources. But I don&#8217;t know if their reporting is necessarily better on the whole.  (I&#8217;ve seen lower quality material in both, just like both have good writing.)</p>

	<p>Kenny, I recommend not scrolling down.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Easwaran</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/23/you-know-about-inside-higher-ed-right/comment-page-1/#comment-266967</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny Easwaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When IHE started, I read fairly regularly for a while, but because of the infuriating trolls in the comments, I decided to quit, and realized that I became a lot happier as a result.  Is there some way to read it with the comments turned off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>When <span class="caps">IHE</span> started, I read fairly regularly for a while, but because of the infuriating trolls in the comments, I decided to quit, and realized that I became a lot happier as a result.  Is there some way to read it with the comments turned off?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald A. Coffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald A. Coffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like IHE a lot, but I also continue my subscription to CHE.  I thinks CHE&#039;s news coverage is 
a whole lot better, which is, I think, a consequence of having a staff whose job it is
to report (not at all clear that IHE does the same; in fact, based on what looks like a
revenue-free operation, very difficult for IHE to do the same).  Not that the issues don&#039;t
show up on IHE, they just (seem to me to) show up largely in opinion pieces or
pieces with a definite point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I like <span class="caps">IHE</span> a lot, but I also continue my subscription to <span class="caps">CHE</span>.  I thinks <span class="caps">CHE</span>&#8217;s news coverage is<br />
a whole lot better, which is, I think, a consequence of having a staff whose job it is<br />
to report (not at all clear that <span class="caps">IHE</span> does the same; in fact, based on what looks like a<br />
revenue-free operation, very difficult for <span class="caps">IHE</span> to do the same).  Not that the issues don&#8217;t<br />
show up on <span class="caps">IHE</span>, they just (seem to me to) show up largely in opinion pieces or<br />
pieces with a definite point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Eszter!  I didn&#039;t realize that IHE was free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks, Eszter!  I didn&#8217;t realize that <span class="caps">IHE</span> was free.</p>
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		<title>By: catherine liu</title>
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		<dc:creator>catherine liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like inside higher ed as well! glad you are spreading the word!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>i like inside higher ed as well! glad you are spreading the word!</p>
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		<title>By: ja</title>
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		<dc:creator>ja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve scrapped the Chronicle for IHE as well.  Does anyone know if they&#039;re actually making money?  Chronicle still seems to be the default spot for job postings, but I hope the switch to IHE continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve scrapped the Chronicle for <span class="caps">IHE</span> as well.  Does anyone know if they&#8217;re actually making money?  Chronicle still seems to be the default spot for job postings, but I hope the switch to <span class="caps">IHE</span> continues.</p>
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		<title>By: jd</title>
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		<dc:creator>jd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a great site. In addition to the news, there are a number of very clued-in columnists. I particularly enjoy Scott McLemee&#039;s essays. As a bonus, IHE has some of the most amusing trolls on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s a great site. In addition to the news, there are a number of very clued-in columnists. I particularly enjoy Scott McLemee&#8217;s essays. As a bonus, <span class="caps">IHE</span> has some of the most amusing trolls on the internet.</p>
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