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		<title>By: dave heasman</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/24/the-news-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-267140</link>
		<dc:creator>dave heasman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Harry - &quot;We can listen to it (and just about everything else on BBC Radio, though not Desert Island Discs or the Bob Dylan Theme Hour) &quot;

For Bob D - 

http://croz.fm/files/category-theme-time-radio-hour.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh Harry &#8211; &#8220;We can listen to it (and just about everything else on <span class="caps">BBC </span>Radio, though not Desert Island Discs or the Bob Dylan Theme Hour) &#8221;</p>

	<p>For Bob D &#8211;<br />
<a href="http://croz.fm/files/category-theme-time-radio-hour.php" rel="nofollow">http://croz.fm/files/category-theme-time-radio-hour.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: belle le triste</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/24/the-news-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-267136</link>
		<dc:creator>belle le triste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the ditzy one&quot;: i think lisa kudrow is a genuinely gifted and original comedienne; you catch her occasionally surprising herself and her friends co-stars straight out of character with an unexpected reading (of course her character is &quot;kooky&quot;, which gives too easy leeway in lots of ways, and which some will just be allergic to) (and she&#039;s probably trapped in its neighbourhood forever)

david schwimmer was way the weakest link in it, poor guy -- he always seems to be faking his sense of timing, and stayed way over-broad throughout the run, long after the others had learnt to keep stuff less telegraphed 

i like friends despite lots of lame things about it*; it was probably at its best in the middle of its run, it&#039;s over-pleased with itself in the first series definitely, with cutways signalling its gags like crazy 

*this doesn&#039;t signify much, i like everything</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;the ditzy one&#8221;: i think lisa kudrow is a genuinely gifted and original comedienne; you catch her occasionally surprising herself and her friends co-stars straight out of character with an unexpected reading (of course her character is &#8220;kooky&#8221;, which gives too easy leeway in lots of ways, and which some will just be allergic to) (and she&#8217;s probably trapped in its neighbourhood forever)</p>

	<p>david schwimmer was way the weakest link in it, poor guy&#8212;he always seems to be faking his sense of timing, and stayed way over-broad throughout the run, long after the others had learnt to keep stuff less telegraphed</p>

	<p>i like friends despite lots of lame things about it*; it was probably at its best in the middle of its run, it&#8217;s over-pleased with itself in the first series definitely, with cutways signalling its gags like crazy</p>

	<p>*this doesn&#8217;t signify much, i like everything</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Terra</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/24/the-news-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-267134</link>
		<dc:creator>Warren Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely adore &lt;i&gt;The News Quiz&lt;/i&gt;, especially with Sandy Toksvig now in the chair and Jeremy Hardy as a regular guest. That said, I haven&#039;t been a huge fan of Mark Steel&#039;s recent contributions to the show - which is a shame, because &lt;i&gt;The Mark Steel Lectures&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;The Mark Steel Revolution&lt;/i&gt; are fantastic. If you haven&#039;t heard them, you should catch them when they next come around on BBC7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I absolutely adore <i>The News Quiz</i>, especially with Sandy Toksvig now in the chair and Jeremy Hardy as a regular guest. That said, I haven&#8217;t been a huge fan of Mark Steel&#8217;s recent contributions to the show &#8211; which is a shame, because <i>The Mark Steel Lectures</i> and <i>The Mark Steel Revolution</i> are fantastic. If you haven&#8217;t heard them, you should catch them when they next come around on <span class="caps">BBC7</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: c.l. ball</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/24/the-news-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-267133</link>
		<dc:creator>c.l. ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Lot&#039;s of anti-&lt;i&gt;Friends&lt;/i&gt;-ites out there. In its early seasons, it was funny. 

The characters did have some serious downs (failed marriages, relationships).  One episode centered around the divide between Monica, Chandler, and Ross, who had well-paying jobs, and Phoebe, Rachael, and Joey, who did not. As the series explained, Monica, the chef, was living illegally in her grandmother&#039;s  rent-controlled apartment; Racheal, the waitress, joins her. (It is also made clear that Rachel and Monica &amp; Ross come from wealthy families). 

 It is also worth noting that three of the characters were identifiably Jewish, not something that TV shows do often (in &lt;i&gt;Seinfield&lt;/i&gt;,  only Seinfield was Jewish; one episode bizarrely revolved around Julia Louis-Dreyfus&#039;s character being goy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow. Lot&#8217;s of anti-<i>Friends</i>-ites out there. In its early seasons, it was funny.</p>

	<p>The characters did have some serious downs (failed marriages, relationships).  One episode centered around the divide between Monica, Chandler, and Ross, who had well-paying jobs, and Phoebe, Rachael, and Joey, who did not. As the series explained, Monica, the chef, was living illegally in her grandmother&#8217;s  rent-controlled apartment; Racheal, the waitress, joins her. (It is also made clear that Rachel and Monica &#038; Ross come from wealthy families).</p>

	<p>It is also worth noting that three of the characters were identifiably Jewish, not something that TV shows do often (in <i>Seinfield</i>,  only Seinfield was Jewish; one episode bizarrely revolved around Julia Louis-Dreyfus&#8217;s character being goy).</p>
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		<title>By: ejh</title>
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		<dc:creator>ejh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Gosh, it’s so terribly terribly cool to hate Friends, non? &lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know. I know it used to be terribly cool to &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt; it. Now it&#039;s not, it seems that fewer people do. But I always hated it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Gosh, it&#8217;s so terribly terribly cool to hate Friends, non? </i></p>

	<p>I don&#8217;t know. I know it used to be terribly cool to <i>like</i> it. Now it&#8217;s not, it seems that fewer people do. But I always hated it.</p>
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		<title>By: harry b</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God she&#039;s only 27 in that clip, but she already sounds 50.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>God she&#8217;s only 27 in that clip, but she already sounds 50.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I have always found Toksvig to be incredibly irritating and never even the tiniest bit funny.&lt;/i&gt;

Does that go right back to the sandwich quiz on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE2G7dvwXsA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Number 73&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I have always found Toksvig to be incredibly irritating and never even the tiniest bit funny.</i></p>

	<p>Does that go right back to the sandwich quiz on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE2G7dvwXsA" rel="nofollow"><i>Number 73</i></a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/24/the-news-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-267121</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It got a lot less cool when Barry Cryer said he liked it.

I&#039;ve actually tried to like Friends (I love Frasier) but can&#039;t (maybe Lindsey&#039;s episode will turn me). To show that I&#039;m not a bigot, I should add that I have liked everything I&#039;ve seen the constituent actors in (not that much, I admit, but I saw something that Schwimmer was in, in which he seemed very good indeed, Jennifer Aniston in several things, all of which she has been excellent in, and that ditzy one whose name I forget but who I think is brilliant, especially in The Comeback, which is agonising to watch but one of the great moments of American television).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It got a lot less cool when Barry Cryer said he liked it.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;ve actually tried to like Friends (I love Frasier) but can&#8217;t (maybe Lindsey&#8217;s episode will turn me). To show that I&#8217;m not a bigot, I should add that I have liked everything I&#8217;ve seen the constituent actors in (not that much, I admit, but I saw something that Schwimmer was in, in which he seemed very good indeed, Jennifer Aniston in several things, all of which she has been excellent in, and that ditzy one whose name I forget but who I think is brilliant, especially in The Comeback, which is agonising to watch but one of the great moments of American television).</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/24/the-news-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-267119</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, it&#039;s so terribly terribly cool to hate &lt;i&gt;Friends&lt;/i&gt;, non?  I rather like it - it&#039;s funny.  Nuff said. 

 (And the thing about Rachel&#039;s magical ability to pay her rent - yawn - that&#039;s the least original (and most refuted) criticism of the lot.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Gosh, it&#8217;s so terribly terribly cool to hate <i>Friends</i>, non?  I rather like it &#8211; it&#8217;s funny.  Nuff said.</p>

	<p>(And the thing about Rachel&#8217;s magical ability to pay her rent &#8211; yawn &#8211; that&#8217;s the least original (and most refuted) criticism of the lot.)</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/24/the-news-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-267115</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can listen to it (and just about everything else on BBC Radio, though not Desert Island Discs or the Bob Dylan Theme Hour) over the iplayer for 7 days after broadcast. No TV yet. Podcasts are beyond me.

I recommend to tourists that they plan to go to a BBC recording sometime during their visit. I&#039;ve only done it a few times (in fact the first was not a  recording, but a live broadcast of In One Ear, back in 84 or 5) but its fantastic. And free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>We can listen to it (and just about everything else on <span class="caps">BBC </span>Radio, though not Desert Island Discs or the Bob Dylan Theme Hour) over the iplayer for 7 days after broadcast. No TV yet. Podcasts are beyond me.</p>

	<p>I recommend to tourists that they plan to go to a <span class="caps">BBC</span> recording sometime during their visit. I&#8217;ve only done it a few times (in fact the first was not a  recording, but a live broadcast of In One Ear, back in 84 or 5) but its fantastic. And free.</p>
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		<title>By: David Brake</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/24/the-news-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-267113</link>
		<dc:creator>David Brake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so used to thinking of CT as being American that I was bowled over to see discussion of one of my favourite radio programmes. Out of curiosity, can US listeners download the podcast or is it blocked to all but us Brits?

One of these days I must try to get down to a recording - there&#039;s a lot of banter that just gets edited out, apparently (they should produce a New Quiz Uncut podcast!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I am so used to thinking of CT as being American that I was bowled over to see discussion of one of my favourite radio programmes. Out of curiosity, can US listeners download the podcast or is it blocked to all but us Brits?</p>

	<p>One of these days I must try to get down to a recording &#8211; there&#8217;s a lot of banter that just gets edited out, apparently (they should produce a New Quiz Uncut podcast!)</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very very minor celebrities at least....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Very very minor celebrities at least&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The writers only write for the chair (Toksvig  at present  who, unlike her predecessor Hoggart, also frequently ad-libs or at least seems to). There&#039;s a stable of writers who routinely contribute to TNQ, TNS, etc -- in any week each might have contributed just one line.  (I don&#039;t know if they take stuff that gets sent to them, as Week Ending used to.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The writers only write for the chair (Toksvig  at present  who, unlike her predecessor Hoggart, also frequently ad-libs or at least seems to). There&#8217;s a stable of writers who routinely contribute to <span class="caps">TNQ</span>, TNS, etc&#8212;in any week each might have contributed just one line.  (I don&#8217;t know if they take stuff that gets sent to them, as Week Ending used to.)</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;She sounds more irritated with him when he’s on with Hardy (whom she likes).&lt;/i&gt;

Isn&#039;t she a Lib Dem or something? I think for her Mark Steel may be the Wrong Sort of Trot, particularly as compared with Jeremy Hardy - he&#039;s certainly a bit more shouty/snotty/hectoring than JH, and it may add up to pressing the wrong buttons. On the other hand, she may just not have got to know him. When Julian Clary first appeared on Just a Minute, Nicholas Parsons was &lt;b&gt;very&lt;/b&gt; chilly with him - a definite &quot;you dishonour the memory of dear Kenny with your flaunted outrageousness&quot; vibe. I&#039;m sure it was mostly in NP&#039;s head - certainly he&#039;s perfectly pleasant with him now.

(This is the time that I&#039;d set aside for writing exam questions, and here I am writing blog comments about &lt;b&gt;celebrities&lt;/b&gt;... aargh!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>She sounds more irritated with him when he&#8217;s on with Hardy (whom she likes).</i></p>

	<p>Isn&#8217;t she a Lib Dem or something? I think for her Mark Steel may be the Wrong Sort of Trot, particularly as compared with Jeremy Hardy &#8211; he&#8217;s certainly a bit more shouty/snotty/hectoring than JH, and it may add up to pressing the wrong buttons. On the other hand, she may just not have got to know him. When Julian Clary first appeared on Just a Minute, Nicholas Parsons was <b>very</b> chilly with him &#8211; a definite &#8220;you dishonour the memory of dear Kenny with your flaunted outrageousness&#8221; vibe. I&#8217;m sure it was mostly in NP&#8217;s head &#8211; certainly he&#8217;s perfectly pleasant with him now.</p>

	<p>(This is the time that I&#8217;d set aside for writing exam questions, and here I am writing blog comments about <b>celebrities</b>&#8230; aargh!)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;who are genuinely witty&quot;

Maybe so, but they have an awful lot of writers on the show given the premise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;who are genuinely witty&#8221;</p>

	<p>Maybe so, but they have an awful lot of writers on the show given the premise.</p>
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