Comments on: Am I blocked or not? http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/25/am-i-blocked-or-not/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:37:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: tom s. http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/25/am-i-blocked-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-267397 tom s. Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:31:07 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=9708#comment-267397 Thanks - I'm glad the answer is Yes. It will be interesting to see if herdict gets picked up widely. I suspect it's a bit obscure for most people living in permissive societies (me included) but I hope I am wrong. The general principle is definitely worth supporting, as I say (self promotion alert) in a review of Future of the Internet <a href="http://whimsley.typepad.com/whimsley/2009/02/review-the-future-of-the-internet-and-how-to-stop-it-by-jonathan-zittrain.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Thanks – I’m glad the answer is Yes.

It will be interesting to see if herdict gets picked up widely. I suspect it’s a bit obscure for most people living in permissive societies (me included) but I hope I am wrong. The general principle is definitely worth supporting, as I say (self promotion alert) in a review of Future of the Internet here.

]]> By: JZ http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/25/am-i-blocked-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-267370 JZ Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:09:08 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=9708#comment-267370 I'll make sure our FAQ is clear on this -- Herdict can understand URL vs. entire site, and we want an inaccessibility report anytime someone doesn't get to what he or she expects. That would include a page on Youtube where a video has been removed, or one where it's removed only for people coming from one area, e.g. Thailand. So both of Tom S.'s examples would be examples of inaccessibility -- and Herdict then would be able to show the geographic restrictions as they're applied. ...JZ I’ll make sure our FAQ is clear on this—Herdict can understand URL vs. entire site, and we want an inaccessibility report anytime someone doesn’t get to what he or she expects. That would include a page on Youtube where a video has been removed, or one where it’s removed only for people coming from one area, e.g. Thailand. So both of Tom S.’s examples would be examples of inaccessibility—and Herdict then would be able to show the geographic restrictions as they’re applied. …JZ

]]> By: Eszter http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/25/am-i-blocked-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-267369 Eszter Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:53:19 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=9708#comment-267369 Tom S. - I agree with you that these issues are not clear. JZ and the team gave a presentation at Berkman a few weeks ago and I posed a similar question with respect to a YouTube video. What if youtube.com/specificvideoURL came up, but the video itself was inaccessible? I'm embarrassed to say that I'm not sure what the response was, perhaps precisely, because it wasn't fully clear if there was a set preference on the part of Herdict. I'll check one more time. Tom S. – I agree with you that these issues are not clear. JZ and the team gave a presentation at Berkman a few weeks ago and I posed a similar question with respect to a YouTube video. What if youtube.com/specificvideoURL came up, but the video itself was inaccessible? I’m embarrassed to say that I’m not sure what the response was, perhaps precisely, because it wasn’t fully clear if there was a set preference on the part of Herdict. I’ll check one more time.

]]> By: tom s. http://crookedtimber.org/2009/02/25/am-i-blocked-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-267361 tom s. Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:56:47 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=9708#comment-267361 This sounds admirable, but I'm still trying to understand what herdict means by accessible. For example, from here in Canada I can get to www.hulu.com but I cannot watch any of the material on the site because of rights issues. Or I can get to bbc.co.uk but cannot see various content because I'm not in the UK. Do these cases come under herdict's "inaccessible" umbrella or does the fact I can see the site (but not everything on it) make it "accessible"? Seems to me it would depend on the goals of the project how I would label those sites. This sounds admirable, but I’m still trying to understand what herdict means by accessible. For example, from here in Canada I can get to http://www.hulu.com but I cannot watch any of the material on the site because of rights issues. Or I can get to bbc.co.uk but cannot see various content because I’m not in the UK. Do these cases come under herdict’s “inaccessible” umbrella or does the fact I can see the site (but not everything on it) make it “accessible”? Seems to me it would depend on the goals of the project how I would label those sites.

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