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	<title>Comments on: Catechism of Cliches: Irish Economic Collapse Edition</title>
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		<title>By: Kenny Easwaran</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/04/02/catechism-of-cliches-irish-economic-collapse-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-271756</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny Easwaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was a nice companion piece to the Simpsons episode from a couple weeks ago - Ireland was overdue for the treatment they&#039;ve already given to Australia and Brazil and Japan and who knows how many other countries the Simpsons have visited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I thought it was a nice companion piece to the Simpsons episode from a couple weeks ago &#8211; Ireland was overdue for the treatment they&#8217;ve already given to Australia and Brazil and Japan and who knows how many other countries the Simpsons have visited.</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/04/02/catechism-of-cliches-irish-economic-collapse-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-271717</link>
		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>27: good point. Also &quot;thrawn&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>27: good point. Also &#8220;thrawn&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Preachy Preach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preachy Preach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ajay&gt; You forgot &#039;dour&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>ajay> You forgot &#8216;dour&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/04/02/catechism-of-cliches-irish-economic-collapse-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-271708</link>
		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Fill in the blanks yerself.&lt;/i&gt;

Yer not helping yerself wit using spellings like dat, sure and begob yer not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Fill in the blanks yerself.</i></p>

	<p>Yer not helping yerself wit using spellings like dat, sure and begob yer not.</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/04/02/catechism-of-cliches-irish-economic-collapse-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-271707</link>
		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, in Scotland... traditional values of thrift... canny natives... knobbly knees... Gordon Brown, a son of the manse... Presbyterian distaste for wealth and generally grim attitude to life... Adam Smith... David Hume... Alec Home... Lord Balfour... Davey Balfour...  &quot;no more impressive sight than a Scotsman on the make&quot;... lured south by the temptations of the metropolis... Darien scheme... Archie Gemmill, 1978... heather, probably...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Meanwhile, in Scotland&#8230; traditional values of thrift&#8230; canny natives&#8230; knobbly knees&#8230; Gordon Brown, a son of the manse&#8230; Presbyterian distaste for wealth and generally grim attitude to life&#8230; Adam Smith&#8230; David Hume&#8230; Alec Home&#8230; Lord Balfour&#8230; Davey Balfour&#8230;  &#8220;no more impressive sight than a Scotsman on the make&#8221;&#8230; lured south by the temptations of the metropolis&#8230; Darien scheme&#8230; Archie Gemmill, 1978&#8230; heather, probably&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: anon/portly</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon/portly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 06:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;….except it’s missing Leprechauns&lt;/i&gt;

If the phrase &quot;[i]f Barack Obama .... were to skip across the Irish Sea&quot; isn&#039;t a reference to something elfin, what then is it a reference to?  Do Irish folk of regular height ambulate skippily?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8230;.except it&#8217;s missing Leprechauns</i></p>

	<p>If the phrase &#8220;[i]f Barack Obama &#8230;. were to skip across the Irish Sea&#8221; isn&#8217;t a reference to something elfin, what then is it a reference to?  Do Irish folk of regular height ambulate skippily?</p>
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		<title>By: mollymooly</title>
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		<dc:creator>mollymooly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least he wrote &quot;Great Famine&quot; rather than &quot;Great Potato Famine&quot;. Maybe he&#039;d already used up his &quot;potato&quot; quota.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>At least he wrote &#8220;Great Famine&#8221; rather than &#8220;Great Potato Famine&#8221;. Maybe he&#8217;d already used up his &#8220;potato&#8221; quota.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the continuing &quot;American clichés of Irishness&quot; series, I caught the opening of tonight&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Wife Swap&lt;/i&gt; with some degree of horror at its plastic padditude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>On the continuing &#8220;American clich&#233;s of Irishness&#8221; series, I caught the opening of tonight&#8217;s <i>Wife Swap</i> with some degree of horror at its plastic padditude.</p>
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		<title>By: garymar</title>
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		<dc:creator>garymar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faith and begorrah, when Pat and Mike read the NYT article over the greasy till, their Guinnesses forgotten at the bar with heads long settled, did they not agree then ‘twas a well-wrought bit of blarney? Yet i’ their opinion, the writer was a bit &lt;i&gt;off the mark&lt;/i&gt;, don’t you know.

&quot;&#039;Tis fine enough,&quot; opined Pat, &quot;but could not he have mentioned County Donegal, and the fields of shamrocks glistening over the cliffs?&quot;

“&lt;i&gt;Stuff&lt;/i&gt; the shamrocks,” Mike replied heatedly, “what about the leprechauns? How can a man write of the woes of the Emerald Isle and write nowt of the leprechauns, clad all in green? By the saints and the Blessed Mother o’ God, ‘twas the leprechauns that started this whole Donnybrook, what with their clamourin’ for deregulation in the financial markets, the better to leverage those pots o’ gold they always be carryin’ about with them.”

And they picked up their Guinnesses and laughed bitterly at the thought of the leprechauns, marooned helplessly in their unsellable O’Mansions, bereft of their gold, mortgages unpaid, with nought but last year’s mouldy potatoes to sustain them.

I can do it, and I&#039;m not even Irish.

There’s plenty of oldsters here at CT, so I’d like to ask the older American readers if anyone ever read &lt;i&gt;National Lampoon&lt;/i&gt; back in the early ‘70s, and if you did, do you remember the ongoing columns about “Young Patrick Moynihan”? It was all about young Paddy Moynihan growing up in Hell’s Kitchen, with an violent, alcoholic father and a termagant of a mother, fists and frying pans flying and the young Paddy begging his parents not to be killing each other. Very funny parody of cliches about poverty-stricken Irish-Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Faith and begorrah, when Pat and Mike read the <span class="caps">NYT</span> article over the greasy till, their Guinnesses forgotten at the bar with heads long settled, did they not agree then &#8216;twas a well-wrought bit of blarney? Yet i&#8217; their opinion, the writer was a bit <i>off the mark</i>, don&#8217;t you know.</p>

	<p>&#8220;&#8217;Tis fine enough,&#8221; opined Pat, &#8220;but could not he have mentioned County Donegal, and the fields of shamrocks glistening over the cliffs?&#8221;</p>

	<p>&#8220;<i>Stuff</i> the shamrocks,&#8221; Mike replied heatedly, &#8220;what about the leprechauns? How can a man write of the woes of the Emerald Isle and write nowt of the leprechauns, clad all in green? By the saints and the Blessed Mother o&#8217; God, &#8216;twas the leprechauns that started this whole Donnybrook, what with their clamourin&#8217; for deregulation in the financial markets, the better to leverage those pots o&#8217; gold they always be carryin&#8217; about with them.&#8221;</p>

	<p>And they picked up their Guinnesses and laughed bitterly at the thought of the leprechauns, marooned helplessly in their unsellable O&#8217;Mansions, bereft of their gold, mortgages unpaid, with nought but last year&#8217;s mouldy potatoes to sustain them.</p>

	<p>I can do it, and I&#8217;m not even Irish.</p>

	<p>There&#8217;s plenty of oldsters here at CT, so I&#8217;d like to ask the older American readers if anyone ever read <i>National Lampoon</i> back in the early &#8216;70s, and if you did, do you remember the ongoing columns about &#8220;Young Patrick Moynihan&#8221;? It was all about young Paddy Moynihan growing up in Hell&#8217;s Kitchen, with an violent, alcoholic father and a termagant of a mother, fists and frying pans flying and the young Paddy begging his parents not to be killing each other. Very funny parody of cliches about poverty-stricken Irish-Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: P O'Neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>P O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But surely must be docked points for not mentioning &quot;the greasy till&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>But surely must be docked points for not mentioning &#8220;the greasy till&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: notsneaky</title>
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		<dc:creator>notsneaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:13 ... and make a drinking game out of it. With Bud Light!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Re:13 &#8230; and make a drinking game out of it. With Bud Light!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the comments to the article:
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WHO will go drive with Fergus now,
And pierce the Mansion’s designer shade,
And dance upon the BMW?
Young man, lift up your fine Merlot,
And lift your Gucci handbag, maid,
And brood on hopes and fear no more.

And no more turn aside and brood
Upon money’s bitter mystery;
For Fergus rules the credit cards,
And rules the debtors of the wood,
And the empty piers on the dim sea
And all bankrupted wandering stars.
— honkhonk
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>From the comments to the article:&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<span class="caps">WHO</span> will go drive with Fergus now,<br />
And pierce the Mansion&#8217;s designer shade,<br />
And dance upon the <span class="caps">BMW</span>?<br />
Young man, lift up your fine Merlot,<br />
And lift your Gucci handbag, maid,<br />
And brood on hopes and fear no more.</p>

	<p>And no more turn aside and brood<br />
Upon money&#8217;s bitter mystery;<br />
For Fergus rules the credit cards,<br />
And rules the debtors of the wood,<br />
And the empty piers on the dim sea<br />
And all bankrupted wandering stars.<br />
&#8212; honkhonk&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even Pittsburgh doesn&#039;t get that many cliches when the NYT comes to town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Even Pittsburgh doesn&#8217;t get that many cliches when the <span class="caps">NYT</span> comes to town.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Christensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Henry (the famous one): Trust us - we feel your pain.

I wouldn&#039;t want to think about how an economic breakdown in Denmark or Sweden would be reported.

&quot;Moose rambling through the Astrid Lindgren-like tranquility of abandoned IKEA stores where SAABs stand rusting in the parking lot...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@Henry (the famous one): Trust us &#8211; we feel your pain.</p>

	<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to think about how an economic breakdown in Denmark or Sweden would be reported.</p>

	<p>&#8220;Moose rambling through the Astrid Lindgren-like tranquility of abandoned <span class="caps">IKEA</span> stores where <span class="caps">SAA</span>Bs stand rusting in the parking lot&#8230;&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Henry (not the famous one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry (not the famous one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this killing you?
Yes it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Is this killing you?<br />
Yes it is.</p>
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