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	<title>Comments on: Popularity of Facebook and MySpace changes, but SES differences in use persist</title>
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		<title>By: virgil xenophon</title>
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		<dc:creator>virgil xenophon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re on to something, engels. In the early years, say 2004-5,  the Friendster and FB crowd seemed to be, imo, dominated mainly by those afflicted with what can only be described as  terminal &quot;educated  hipsterism,&quot;  if from what I gleaned from remarks observed by my admittedly intermittent scanning of blogs written by college-age young at that time is any indication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think you&#8217;re on to something, engels. In the early years, say 2004-5,  the Friendster and FB crowd seemed to be, imo, dominated mainly by those afflicted with what can only be described as  terminal &#8220;educated  hipsterism,&#8221;  if from what I gleaned from remarks observed by my admittedly intermittent scanning of blogs written by college-age young at that time is any indication.</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
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		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I never suggested they were motivated by classism or racism. I assume their intention was and is to make as much money they can. But it might be that doing that required thinking about things like the social identity of their user base and trying to keep away people who might &#039;lower the tone&#039; and getting on board people who would set the right tone, as it were. It seems at least possible (to someone like me who isn&#039;t, you will be surprised to hear, a brand consultant or a sociologist) that the class and race characteristics of Facebook&#039;s user base we have been discussing might not be accidental but could be partly the result of a successful strategy on their part, which could have motivated the historical path of its access restrictions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, I never suggested they were motivated by classism or racism. I assume their intention was and is to make as much money they can. But it might be that doing that required thinking about things like the social identity of their user base and trying to keep away people who might &#8216;lower the tone&#8217; and getting on board people who would set the right tone, as it were. It seems at least possible (to someone like me who isn&#8217;t, you will be surprised to hear, a brand consultant or a sociologist) that the class and race characteristics of Facebook&#8217;s user base we have been discussing might not be accidental but could be partly the result of a successful strategy on their part, which could have motivated the historical path of its access restrictions.</p>
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		<title>By: agm</title>
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		<dc:creator>agm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@27-28 
I&#039;m not sure that there was explicit thought about excluding people based on anything so pedestrian as class or race. Access was restricted so that anyone you saw on facebook was from Harvard. When it was expanded just a little, to schools considered &lt;i&gt;&quot;nearly&quot;&lt;/i&gt; equal in pedigree (Stanford, etc) there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth over the loss of exclusivity, which to me says that Harvard students prize their exclusivity but aren&#039;t automatically thinking about deeper implications of what they do all the time. 

As Zuckerberg &amp; Co grew the company, more and more schools were added, you saw access grading from students at elite schools to community colleges and so on. When the general internet was given access, there was a particularly big round of wailing and gnashing of teeth: &quot;My father just friended me. Words fail&quot; (actual status of one of my friends) and &quot;Great, I want creepy old men stalking me online.&quot; At least one person has set up a &quot;Your mom&quot; profile to use for jokes.

Multiple site re-designs, the addition of apps, programming APIs, expansion of advertising, rights over all content uploaded by terms of service -- it becomes clear that Zuckerber et al seek more ad revenue and view expansion to everyone as the way to get there. Not a strong argument that they are as a company trying to be classist or racist, since they had to abandon their elitism to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@27-28<br />
I&#8217;m not sure that there was explicit thought about excluding people based on anything so pedestrian as class or race. Access was restricted so that anyone you saw on facebook was from Harvard. When it was expanded just a little, to schools considered <i>&#8220;nearly&#8221;</i> equal in pedigree (Stanford, etc) there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth over the loss of exclusivity, which to me says that Harvard students prize their exclusivity but aren&#8217;t automatically thinking about deeper implications of what they do all the time.</p>

	<p>As Zuckerberg &#038; Co grew the company, more and more schools were added, you saw access grading from students at elite schools to community colleges and so on. When the general internet was given access, there was a particularly big round of wailing and gnashing of teeth: &#8220;My father just friended me. Words fail&#8221; (actual status of one of my friends) and &#8220;Great, I want creepy old men stalking me online.&#8221; At least one person has set up a &#8220;Your mom&#8221; profile to use for jokes.</p>

	<p>Multiple site re-designs, the addition of apps, programming APIs, expansion of advertising, rights over all content uploaded by terms of service&#8212;it becomes clear that Zuckerber et al seek more ad revenue and view expansion to everyone as the way to get there. Not a strong argument that they are as a company trying to be classist or racist, since they had to abandon their elitism to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
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		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I suppose it&#039;s possible that responding to the propositional content of what I wrote rather than plucking a single noun phrase out of the sentence in which it occurs to react with inarticulate shock would be more likely to lead to a productive exchange of views...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Also, I suppose it&#8217;s possible that responding to the propositional content of what I wrote rather than plucking a single noun phrase out of the sentence in which it occurs to react with inarticulate shock would be more likely to lead to a productive exchange of views&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
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		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ajay, apart from a general sense of having said something that is somehow beyond the pale I&#039;m unable to decipher your meaning. Would you care to elaborate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ajay, apart from a general sense of having said something that is somehow beyond the pale I&#8217;m unable to decipher your meaning. Would you care to elaborate?</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25: interesting point about Asian immigrant use of Friendster - so is Myspace really popular in Latin America, explaining the Hispanic anomaly?

24: &lt;i&gt;the intentions Facebook’s rulers have or originally had as regards attracting or shutting out people of different classes or ethnicities?&lt;/i&gt;

Blimey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>25: interesting point about Asian immigrant use of Friendster &#8211; so is Myspace really popular in Latin America, explaining the Hispanic anomaly?</p>

	<p>24: <i>the intentions Facebook&#8217;s rulers have or originally had as regards attracting or shutting out people of different classes or ethnicities?</i></p>

	<p>Blimey.</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter Hargittai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eszter Hargittai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, NYTimes Gadgetwise now has &lt;a href=&quot;http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/09/does-social-networking-breed-social-division/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a piece&lt;/a&gt; on all this.

ajay - what you mention is similar to what I discuss in the 2007 paper about how people&#039;s online networks reflect their offline networks.  (By the way, your example of Asian Americans on MySpace is curious given that they&#039;re the least likely to be on that particular service as per the figures in the tables. From my 2007 data, it looked like they were the most likely users of Friendster, possibly due to communities in Asia embracing that site more than folks in the US at this point. Given that many of the people in the sample are first or second-generation immigrants, this makes sense.) I do think, however, that it&#039;s interesting to note these differential rates of diffusion for various reasons even if to some they may seem obvious or at least completely understandable. For one thing, many people believe that online, all these background differences disappear. For another, many discussions and analyses of social network sites collapse these sites as though they were all interchangeable and depending on what&#039;s of interest, that&#039;s clearly not the case.

I know that FB was initially restricted to college students only (note, of course, that everyone in my sample is in college, but note also that I consider the implications of the history of FB in the 2007 paper). This was prior to 2006.  When I published the data in 2007, people said that the differences I found across groups would soon disappear given that the site had only recently opened up to everybody.  They haven&#039;t disappeared two years later though. 

I can only cover so much in a blog post. Most of what people bring up are taken on in the 2007 paper and I will likely address again in the forthcoming paper. Of course, it&#039;s fine to ask about it and raise points, just don&#039;t assume I haven&#039;t considered them.

As to the question by engels, I mainly focus on the user&#039;s perspective at this point in my work although in the past I have certainly also looked at how site strategies and features influence what users are most likely to do and be exposed to online (I did this mainly in the domain of search engines and portal sites, I haven&#039;t done a careful analysis of Facebook in this regard).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">FYI</span>, NYTimes Gadgetwise now has <a href="http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/09/does-social-networking-breed-social-division/" rel="nofollow">a piece</a> on all this.</p>

	<p>ajay &#8211; what you mention is similar to what I discuss in the 2007 paper about how people&#8217;s online networks reflect their offline networks.  (By the way, your example of Asian Americans on MySpace is curious given that they&#8217;re the least likely to be on that particular service as per the figures in the tables. From my 2007 data, it looked like they were the most likely users of Friendster, possibly due to communities in Asia embracing that site more than folks in the US at this point. Given that many of the people in the sample are first or second-generation immigrants, this makes sense.) I do think, however, that it&#8217;s interesting to note these differential rates of diffusion for various reasons even if to some they may seem obvious or at least completely understandable. For one thing, many people believe that online, all these background differences disappear. For another, many discussions and analyses of social network sites collapse these sites as though they were all interchangeable and depending on what&#8217;s of interest, that&#8217;s clearly not the case.</p>

	<p>I know that FB was initially restricted to college students only (note, of course, that everyone in my sample is in college, but note also that I consider the implications of the history of FB in the 2007 paper). This was prior to 2006.  When I published the data in 2007, people said that the differences I found across groups would soon disappear given that the site had only recently opened up to everybody.  They haven&#8217;t disappeared two years later though.</p>

	<p>I can only cover so much in a blog post. Most of what people bring up are taken on in the 2007 paper and I will likely address again in the forthcoming paper. Of course, it&#8217;s fine to ask about it and raise points, just don&#8217;t assume I haven&#8217;t considered them.</p>

	<p>As to the question by engels, I mainly focus on the user&#8217;s perspective at this point in my work although in the past I have certainly also looked at how site strategies and features influence what users are most likely to do and be exposed to online (I did this mainly in the domain of search engines and portal sites, I haven&#8217;t done a careful analysis of Facebook in this regard).</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
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		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It was initially the case IIRC that only US college students could use Facebook&lt;/i&gt;

Iirc it was originally restricted to students from a small group of colleges, Harvard, Stanford, etc. Ezster, do you only look at usage data or have you ever tried to find out anything about the intentions Facebook&#039;s rulers have or originally had as regards attracting or shutting out people of different classes or ethnicities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>It was initially the case <span class="caps">IIRC</span> that only US college students could use Facebook</i></p>

	<p>Iirc it was originally restricted to students from a small group of colleges, Harvard, Stanford, etc. Ezster, do you only look at usage data or have you ever tried to find out anything about the intentions Facebook&#8217;s rulers have or originally had as regards attracting or shutting out people of different classes or ethnicities?</p>
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		<title>By: dsquared</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was told recently that Myspace is basically the online equivalent of Detroit - there&#039;s nobody left there except deadbeats and indie bands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was told recently that Myspace is basically the online equivalent of Detroit &#8211; there&#8217;s nobody left there except deadbeats and indie bands.</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was initially the case IIRC that only US college students could use Facebook. Also, anecdotally, Myspace is supposed to be better for posting videos etc than Facebook, so if you have a band, you set up a Myspace page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It was initially the case <span class="caps">IIRC</span> that only US college students could use Facebook. Also, anecdotally, Myspace is supposed to be better for posting videos etc than Facebook, so if you have a band, you set up a Myspace page.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expanding on this, there&#039;s the enormous popularity of Orkut in Brazil (and pretty much nowhere else) which suggests something about the power of network effects etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Expanding on this, there&#8217;s the enormous popularity of Orkut in Brazil (and pretty much nowhere else) which suggests something about the power of network effects etc.</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to compare this with existing information on social networks. I would hypothesise that people join Facebook because they have a lot of friends already on Facebook - right? Now, to take one example, in a highly segregated society, where white people mostly have white friends and Asian people Asian friends, you could well see almost complete difference in use -  all the whites on Facebook and all the Asians on Myspace - simply for historical reasons, due to where the early adopters in each group ended up, and their friends and their friends&#039; friends all followed them.
Perhaps you should repeat this study elsewhere in the country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It would be interesting to compare this with existing information on social networks. I would hypothesise that people join Facebook because they have a lot of friends already on Facebook &#8211; right? Now, to take one example, in a highly segregated society, where white people mostly have white friends and Asian people Asian friends, you could well see almost complete difference in use &#8211;  all the whites on Facebook and all the Asians on Myspace &#8211; simply for historical reasons, due to where the early adopters in each group ended up, and their friends and their friends&#8217; friends all followed them.<br />
Perhaps you should repeat this study elsewhere in the country?</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter Hargittai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eszter Hargittai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, I had missed Anne&#039;s comment (for some reason it went into the moderation queue).  There is definitely some overlap.  That&#039;s partly what I&#039;m looking at in the paper I refer to in my last paragraph above (addressing Anthony&#039;s point).  In that paper, I introduce a framework for studying social network site usage that considers both frequency of use and diversity of use. 

That said, given the large dip in numbers for MySpace, especially for some groups (like Asian Americans), there are only going to be so many who use both. But yes, it&#039;s definitely something worth looking at!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ooops, I had missed Anne&#8217;s comment (for some reason it went into the moderation queue).  There is definitely some overlap.  That&#8217;s partly what I&#8217;m looking at in the paper I refer to in my last paragraph above (addressing Anthony&#8217;s point).  In that paper, I introduce a framework for studying social network site usage that considers both frequency of use and diversity of use.</p>

	<p>That said, given the large dip in numbers for MySpace, especially for some groups (like Asian Americans), there are only going to be so many who use both. But yes, it&#8217;s definitely something worth looking at!</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter Hargittai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eszter Hargittai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the engaging comments and good questions. 

As I noted earlier in response to lemuel pitkin, I should’ve been more clear about the Internet experiences of people in these two samples.  They are in no way representative of Americans as a whole. I have added a table that describes these students&#039; Internet experiences.  These students are very much representative of the so-called &quot;wired generation&quot;. Most of them have been using the Internet regularly for years and have lots of opportunities in their everyday lives to go online and most indeed do so. 

Given that we find considerable SES differences in usage even among a group of students whose age and educational level is nearly identical and given that age and education are two of the most salient predictors of Internet usage, were we to look at a more diverse sample, we’d likely find even larger divergences in usage. In that sense, the relative homogeneity of this sample just makes the findings more conservative on those variables.

Addressing Randy’s point about the convenience of this sample, I have to point out that these are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; my students. Regular readers of this blog know that I work at Northwestern University. As I’ve tried to point out on the figures, but did not seem to do a good job of in the blog post itself, the students surveyed here are at the University of Illinois, Chicago (UIC). These are two different institutions physically separated by over 20 miles. I have never been affiliated with UIC.  The reason I do my studies there – despite the relative inconvenience – is precisely because the student body is so diverse and lends itself well to looking at questions of interest in my work in the domain of digital inequality.  Finally, I never said that the only difference between my sample and danah’s is age. In fact, it is precisely that her sample is likely more diverse on SES measures that may lead to her somewhat different findings (larger SES differences, perhaps larger divergences in usage).

lemuel pitkin asked about digital divide issues. Please note that I did not bring up questions about the digital divide anywhere in this post. As StevenAttewell noted, the digital divide tends to refer to users vs non-users. Everybody in these two samples is a user. Most of my work – &lt;a href=&quot;http://crookedtimber.org/2009/07/07/many-excluded-from-opportunity-to-get-tickets-for-michael-jackson-memorial-services/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my previous blog post&lt;/a&gt; and some publications notwithstanding – is about the different Internet skills and usage patterns we observe &lt;i&gt;among&lt;/i&gt; users not between users and non-users.  

I brought up the issue of digital inequality in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://jcmc.indiana.edu/vol13/issue1/hargittai.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2007 paper&lt;/a&gt; in a different context, one concerning use of these sites by those who live with their parents versus those who live on campus. I didn’t take that up in this post at all, I haven&#039;t looked at those data for the 2009 sample  so I won’t get into it at the moment.

Gene and others, as I noted, I’m not ready to look at more elaborate statistical analyses, but it is definitely the necessary next step.  (I will be writing a paper on these data later this summer, but I have several others plus a book to work on right now and have already been distracted by this material more than I should have been that&#039;s why I&#039;m not going back to it at the moment.)

Gene, regarding the statistical significance you ask about, what that means is that there is a statistically significant difference in the extent to which men and women use Facebook in 2009 (i.e., women use FB more than men). For MySpace, the gender differences are statistically significant in both 2007 and 2009. 

Anthony, I have data on use “sometimes” vs use “often” (in the above figures these are collapsed).  In the 2007 data, I also have information about use of Friendster, Xanga, Bebo and Orkut.  I am working on a paper right now that looks at amount of usage in addition to any use at all both in terms of number of such sites used and frequency of use. I’m not quite ready to share results yet, but I definitely agree with you that asking questions about amount of use is a helpful next step in all this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for the engaging comments and good questions.</p>

	<p>As I noted earlier in response to lemuel pitkin, I should&#8217;ve been more clear about the Internet experiences of people in these two samples.  They are in no way representative of Americans as a whole. I have added a table that describes these students&#8217; Internet experiences.  These students are very much representative of the so-called &#8220;wired generation&#8221;. Most of them have been using the Internet regularly for years and have lots of opportunities in their everyday lives to go online and most indeed do so.</p>

	<p>Given that we find considerable <span class="caps">SES</span> differences in usage even among a group of students whose age and educational level is nearly identical and given that age and education are two of the most salient predictors of Internet usage, were we to look at a more diverse sample, we&#8217;d likely find even larger divergences in usage. In that sense, the relative homogeneity of this sample just makes the findings more conservative on those variables.</p>

	<p>Addressing Randy&#8217;s point about the convenience of this sample, I have to point out that these are <i>not</i> my students. Regular readers of this blog know that I work at Northwestern University. As I&#8217;ve tried to point out on the figures, but did not seem to do a good job of in the blog post itself, the students surveyed here are at the University of Illinois, Chicago (UIC). These are two different institutions physically separated by over 20 miles. I have never been affiliated with <span class="caps">UIC</span>.  The reason I do my studies there &#8211; despite the relative inconvenience &#8211; is precisely because the student body is so diverse and lends itself well to looking at questions of interest in my work in the domain of digital inequality.  Finally, I never said that the only difference between my sample and danah&#8217;s is age. In fact, it is precisely that her sample is likely more diverse on <span class="caps">SES</span> measures that may lead to her somewhat different findings (larger <span class="caps">SES</span> differences, perhaps larger divergences in usage).</p>

	<p>lemuel pitkin asked about digital divide issues. Please note that I did not bring up questions about the digital divide anywhere in this post. As StevenAttewell noted, the digital divide tends to refer to users vs non-users. Everybody in these two samples is a user. Most of my work &#8211; <a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2009/07/07/many-excluded-from-opportunity-to-get-tickets-for-michael-jackson-memorial-services/" rel="nofollow">my previous blog post</a> and some publications notwithstanding &#8211; is about the different Internet skills and usage patterns we observe <i>among</i> users not between users and non-users.</p>

	<p>I brought up the issue of digital inequality in the <a href="http://jcmc.indiana.edu/vol13/issue1/hargittai.html" rel="nofollow">2007 paper</a> in a different context, one concerning use of these sites by those who live with their parents versus those who live on campus. I didn&#8217;t take that up in this post at all, I haven&#8217;t looked at those data for the 2009 sample  so I won&#8217;t get into it at the moment.</p>

	<p>Gene and others, as I noted, I&#8217;m not ready to look at more elaborate statistical analyses, but it is definitely the necessary next step.  (I will be writing a paper on these data later this summer, but I have several others plus a book to work on right now and have already been distracted by this material more than I should have been that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m not going back to it at the moment.)</p>

	<p>Gene, regarding the statistical significance you ask about, what that means is that there is a statistically significant difference in the extent to which men and women use Facebook in 2009 (i.e., women use FB more than men). For MySpace, the gender differences are statistically significant in both 2007 and 2009.</p>

	<p>Anthony, I have data on use &#8220;sometimes&#8221; vs use &#8220;often&#8221; (in the above figures these are collapsed).  In the 2007 data, I also have information about use of Friendster, Xanga, Bebo and Orkut.  I am working on a paper right now that looks at amount of usage in addition to any use at all both in terms of number of such sites used and frequency of use. I&#8217;m not quite ready to share results yet, but I definitely agree with you that asking questions about amount of use is a helpful next step in all this.</p>
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		<description>Other than hispanic students, it appears that Facebook is nearly universal among college students now; the big variation is in MySpace use.  However, since lots of students use both (at least 20% in all groups except Asian-Americans), it would be interesting to ask which service students used more, or to extract that from the available data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Other than hispanic students, it appears that Facebook is nearly universal among college students now; the big variation is in MySpace use.  However, since lots of students use both (at least 20% in all groups except Asian-Americans), it would be interesting to ask which service students used more, or to extract that from the available data.</p>
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