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	<title>Comments on: Bookblogging: The end of the Great Moderation, What next?</title>
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		<title>By: JoB</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/09/02/bookblogging-the-end-of-the-great-moderation-what-next/comment-page-1/#comment-287668</link>
		<dc:creator>JoB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, maybe it is because you acknowledged the suggestion to make a wikidot site (it gives me a pleasurable sensation that I exist) but this part if really illuminating.

Probably when I re-read it I&#039;ll have all sorts of issues with it but this gets me excited (such a pity that CT is being dominated by a discussion on somebody making idiotic statements). 

Risk-security angle is a good angle, and as far as I know quite innovative in current debates.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>John, maybe it is because you acknowledged the suggestion to make a wikidot site (it gives me a pleasurable sensation that I exist) but this part if really illuminating.</p>

	<p>Probably when I re-read it I&#8217;ll have all sorts of issues with it but this gets me excited (such a pity that CT is being dominated by a discussion on somebody making idiotic statements).</p>

	<p>Risk-security angle is a good angle, and as far as I know quite innovative in current debates.</p>

	<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: John Cisternino</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cisternino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buce is right that &quot;When All Else Fails&quot; is by David Moss, not Robert.  For a very short primer on the risk management principles that Moss sees as most important for structuring government action,  you can download his chapter &quot;The Government as Risk Manager&quot; (co-authored with Tom Baker of the University of Pennsylvania Law School)  in &quot;New Perspectives on Regulation&quot;  at the following URL:  www.tobinproject.org/twobooks

As for the big question of how society ought to handle risks,  I think there&#039;s a lot to be said for making sure that risks get shifted in ways that give the strongest incentives for risk reduction to those most able to shape risks.  That means making sure that financial sector risk is borne primarily by participants in the sector managers and shareholders, not by the taxpayers.   

But in a world of potentially infinite risk of something, it seems important too to have legitimate democratic procedures for deciding which risks to aggressively manage at any given place and time.   This is a value decision, not just a technical optimization problem, and requires the sort of public moral deliberation that we&#039;re out of practice with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Buce is right that &#8220;When All Else Fails&#8221; is by David Moss, not Robert.  For a very short primer on the risk management principles that Moss sees as most important for structuring government action,  you can download his chapter &#8220;The Government as Risk Manager&#8221; (co-authored with Tom Baker of the University of Pennsylvania Law School)  in &#8220;New Perspectives on Regulation&#8221;  at the following <span class="caps">URL</span>:  <a href="http://www.tobinproject.org/twobooks" rel="nofollow">http://www.tobinproject.org/twobooks</a></p>

	<p>As for the big question of how society ought to handle risks,  I think there&#8217;s a lot to be said for making sure that risks get shifted in ways that give the strongest incentives for risk reduction to those most able to shape risks.  That means making sure that financial sector risk is borne primarily by participants in the sector managers and shareholders, not by the taxpayers.</p>

	<p>But in a world of potentially infinite risk of something, it seems important too to have legitimate democratic procedures for deciding which risks to aggressively manage at any given place and time.   This is a value decision, not just a technical optimization problem, and requires the sort of public moral deliberation that we&#8217;re out of practice with.</p>
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		<title>By: Billikin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billikin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A risk-based analysis may be extended to encompass more general programs of income redistribution. In a risk-based view, redistribution may be seen as providing insurance against a particular kind of risk, namely the risk of being born poor, socially dislocated and without access to human and social capital.&quot;

There is no risk of being born poor. (If there are pre-born souls, to whom they are born may be pre-destined. ;) Or does God play with dice?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;A risk-based analysis may be extended to encompass more general programs of income redistribution. In a risk-based view, redistribution may be seen as providing insurance against a particular kind of risk, namely the risk of being born poor, socially dislocated and without access to human and social capital.&#8221;</p>

	<p>There is no risk of being born poor. (If there are pre-born souls, to whom they are born may be pre-destined. ;) Or does God play with dice?)</p>
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		<title>By: Billikin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billikin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Risk and inequality are closely linked. On the one hand, the greater the risks faced by individuals in the course of their life, including the risk associated with differences in initial opportunities, the more unequal society is likely to be.&quot;

This claim is by no means obvious. It is quite possible to imagine a risk-free caste society. The introduction of risk into such a society might shake things up. In fact, great catastrophes can make for more social equality. In Europe, the Black Plague and the First World War were social levelers. The Great Depression also reduced inequality. 

Isn&#039;t a more important factor the ability of the rich and powerful to shift risk onto the rest of society? That helps to keep the downtrodden down. Also, the poor may be more inclined to take on risk if the potential reward is great. They may also be more resigned to it. 

&quot;On the other hand, as the financial crisis has shown, radical inequality in outcomes, such as that associated with massive rewards to financial traders, encourages risky behavior and particularly encourages a search for opportunities to capture the benefits of risky actions while shifting the costs onto others, or onto society as a whole.&quot;

&quot;Onto society as a whole is redundant.&quot; Privatization of profit and commonization of cost is not just a feature of financial trading. It is a widespread cancer on the body politic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Risk and inequality are closely linked. On the one hand, the greater the risks faced by individuals in the course of their life, including the risk associated with differences in initial opportunities, the more unequal society is likely to be.&#8221;</p>

	<p>This claim is by no means obvious. It is quite possible to imagine a risk-free caste society. The introduction of risk into such a society might shake things up. In fact, great catastrophes can make for more social equality. In Europe, the Black Plague and the First World War were social levelers. The Great Depression also reduced inequality.</p>

	<p>Isn&#8217;t a more important factor the ability of the rich and powerful to shift risk onto the rest of society? That helps to keep the downtrodden down. Also, the poor may be more inclined to take on risk if the potential reward is great. They may also be more resigned to it.</p>

	<p>&#8220;On the other hand, as the financial crisis has shown, radical inequality in outcomes, such as that associated with massive rewards to financial traders, encourages risky behavior and particularly encourages a search for opportunities to capture the benefits of risky actions while shifting the costs onto others, or onto society as a whole.&#8221;</p>

	<p>&#8220;Onto society as a whole is redundant.&#8221; Privatization of profit and commonization of cost is not just a feature of financial trading. It is a widespread cancer on the body politic.</p>
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		<title>By: Declan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Declan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One bit of reading on the role of government in risk management you might find relevant is a paper by Joseph Heath which talks about 5 distinct benefits from cooperation and how they come into conflict.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~jheath/BoC.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;

He notes that while the cooperative benefit from trade relies on differences between people (I prefer apples, you prefer oranges, etc.) the cooperative benefit from &#039;risk pooling&#039; relies instead on reduced variation across larger sample sizes, even where all involved have the same preferences.

He further notes that these two forms of cooperative benefit, gains from trade and risk pooling, are often in direct conflict (pp27-28). 

I think you&#039;ve covered most of the same ground in your chapter above, but you might still find some useful points or references in the Heath essay - it&#039;s what came to my mind as I read your chapter, at any rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One bit of reading on the role of government in risk management you might find relevant is a paper by Joseph Heath which talks about 5 distinct benefits from cooperation and how they come into conflict.</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~jheath/BoC.pdf" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>

	<p>He notes that while the cooperative benefit from trade relies on differences between people (I prefer apples, you prefer oranges, etc.) the cooperative benefit from &#8216;risk pooling&#8217; relies instead on reduced variation across larger sample sizes, even where all involved have the same preferences.</p>

	<p>He further notes that these two forms of cooperative benefit, gains from trade and risk pooling, are often in direct conflict (pp27-28).</p>

	<p>I think you&#8217;ve covered most of the same ground in your chapter above, but you might still find some useful points or references in the Heath essay &#8211; it&#8217;s what came to my mind as I read your chapter, at any rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Buce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David A. Moss.  Not Robert.

See also: Douglas W. Hubbard, The Failure of Risk Management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>David A. Moss.  Not Robert.</p>

	<p>See also: Douglas W. Hubbard, The Failure of Risk Management.</p>
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