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	<title>Comments on: Retaliating against the Mickey Tax</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: Mandos</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295393</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*points at DMCA, ACTA* The US entertainment industry has always loved to shoot itself in the foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><strong>points at <span class="caps">DMCA</span>, ACTA</strong> The US entertainment industry has always loved to shoot itself in the foot.</p>
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		<title>By: Talleyrand</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295358</link>
		<dc:creator>Talleyrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is astonishing that the US in the midst of rising anti-americanism (albeit lessened slightly now due to Obama&#039;s popularity) should want to piss off those few people left who like America enough to visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It is astonishing that the US in the midst of rising anti-americanism (albeit lessened slightly now due to Obama&#8217;s popularity) should want to piss off those few people left who like America enough to visit.</p>
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		<title>By: wolfgang</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295352</link>
		<dc:creator>wolfgang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How stupid are the people who currently run the US ?
In order to &#039;promote travel&#039; you tax tourists with a fee and provoke a visa war.
Great central planning in the true spirit of the glorious soviet union ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>How stupid are the people who currently run the <span class="caps">US </span>?<br />
In order to &#8216;promote travel&#8217; you tax tourists with a fee and provoke a visa war.<br />
Great central planning in the true spirit of the glorious soviet union &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Otsuka</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295351</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Otsuka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, a balding visage is not possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Incidentally, a balding visage is not possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Henri Vieuxtemps</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295251</link>
		<dc:creator>Henri Vieuxtemps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think as long as the dollar is cheap Europeans will come. $25 is what - 17 Euro? Price of one pizza in Paris, but two in New York.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think as long as the dollar is cheap Europeans will come. $25 is what &#8211; 17 Euro? Price of one pizza in Paris, but two in New York.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295230</link>
		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fundamental point is that a fee-based ESTA system is a visa in all but name, and that as a result, the standard principle of visa reciprocity should apply. I doubt that the EU would require full visas for American visitors, but I suspect that the 90-day stamp they now receive might suddenly require a processing fee to pay for the ink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The fundamental point is that a fee-based <span class="caps">ESTA</span> system is a visa in all but name, and that as a result, the standard principle of visa reciprocity should apply. I doubt that the EU would require full visas for American visitors, but I suspect that the 90-day stamp they now receive might suddenly require a processing fee to pay for the ink.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295229</link>
		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A $25 fee is really going to change everyone’s behavior this much?&lt;/i&gt;

If you look at, for instance, the NYT blog comments on this topic, you&#039;ll see a combination of Europeans who are livid about it, and Americans who are unaware of it. You&#039;ll also find lots of people for whom this is the last straw, given the advent of pre-clearance and photo/fingerprint-scanning for visa waiver visitors, increasingly arduous and Kafkaesque bureaucracy  for visitors requiring visas, and the whole being-treated-like-criminals on arrival.

Visa waiver nations ought to require all advertising covered by the TPA fee carry a large notice saying that should you decide to visit the USA, you&#039;ll be paying directly for future ads of this nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>A $25 fee is really going to change everyone&#8217;s behavior this much?</i></p>

	<p>If you look at, for instance, the <span class="caps">NYT</span> blog comments on this topic, you&#8217;ll see a combination of Europeans who are livid about it, and Americans who are unaware of it. You&#8217;ll also find lots of people for whom this is the last straw, given the advent of pre-clearance and photo/fingerprint-scanning for visa waiver visitors, increasingly arduous and Kafkaesque bureaucracy  for visitors requiring visas, and the whole being-treated-like-criminals on arrival.</p>

	<p>Visa waiver nations ought to require all advertising covered by the <span class="caps">TPA</span> fee carry a large notice saying that should you decide to visit the <span class="caps">USA</span>, you&#8217;ll be paying directly for future ads of this nature.</p>
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		<title>By: TW Andrews</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295225</link>
		<dc:creator>TW Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typically if you tax something, don&#039;t people do less of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Typically if you tax something, don&#8217;t people do less of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mandos</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295218</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re talking about a world in which layoffs that cause the appearance of next quarter profits result in mucho performance bonuses.  Of course this will hurt US tourism, but Disney might be able to post better numbers for a quarter or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>We&#8217;re talking about a world in which layoffs that cause the appearance of next quarter profits result in mucho performance bonuses.  Of course this will hurt US tourism, but Disney might be able to post better numbers for a quarter or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Hallam-Baker</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295203</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Hallam-Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What sort of cretin imagines that the way to increase tourism to the US is to introduce yet another tourism tax?

This tourism tax will kill the entire US tourism business. Disneyworld and Universal will be the first to go. Admissions revenue at the national parks will collapse forcing the closure of many of them. 

And when the tourism dollars vanish, so do the convention center dollars. 

This completely unsustainable tax should be known as the death tax because it is going to cause the death of the US tourism industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What sort of cretin imagines that the way to increase tourism to the US is to introduce yet another tourism tax?</p>

	<p>This tourism tax will kill the entire US tourism business. Disneyworld and Universal will be the first to go. Admissions revenue at the national parks will collapse forcing the closure of many of them.</p>

	<p>And when the tourism dollars vanish, so do the convention center dollars.</p>

	<p>This completely unsustainable tax should be known as the death tax because it is going to cause the death of the US tourism industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Salient</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295197</link>
		<dc:creator>Salient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A $25 fee is really going to change everyone’s behavior this much?&lt;/i&gt;

Well heck, if it really doesn&#039;t, let&#039;s charge a $25 fee which will go directly toward subsidies for health care, or maybe subsidize state budgets, or fund climate control initiatives, or maintain public attractions like state parks and monuments, or... whatever.

But... $25 in slush for tourism advertising? Really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>A $25 fee is really going to change everyone&#8217;s behavior this much?</i></p>

	<p>Well heck, if it really doesn&#8217;t, let&#8217;s charge a $25 fee which will go directly toward subsidies for health care, or maybe subsidize state budgets, or fund climate control initiatives, or maintain public attractions like state parks and monuments, or&#8230; whatever.</p>

	<p>But&#8230; $25 in slush for tourism advertising? Really?</p>
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		<title>By: flubber</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295193</link>
		<dc:creator>flubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A $25 fee is really going to change everyone&#039;s behavior this much? It&#039;s hard to believe people are this price sensitive, in the context of already spending a thousand or two on an international trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A $25 fee is really going to change everyone&#8217;s behavior this much? It&#8217;s hard to believe people are this price sensitive, in the context of already spending a thousand or two on an international trip.</p>
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		<title>By: chris y</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295132</link>
		<dc:creator>chris y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An export duty. How quaint. Oh, well, looks like I won&#039;t be visiting my in-laws for a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>An export duty. How quaint. Oh, well, looks like I won&#8217;t be visiting my in-laws for a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295126</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The EU should really levy a tax on those companies which supported the US tax.
Or just select them for an intensive tax audit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The EU should really levy a tax on those companies which supported the US tax.<br />
Or just select them for an intensive tax audit.</p>
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		<title>By: musical mountaineer</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/12/retaliating-against-the-mickey-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-295122</link>
		<dc:creator>musical mountaineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If all visitors to the US were tourists, this would cancel out neatly. The trick is that the tax will be levied on business visitors as well. So this is good for Disney, bad for business-oriented hotels and similar.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is bad, period.  There&#039;s nothing in the Constitution about the United States of Disney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><blockquote>If all visitors to the US were tourists, this would cancel out neatly. The trick is that the tax will be levied on business visitors as well. So this is good for Disney, bad for business-oriented hotels and similar.</blockquote></p>

	<p>This is bad, period.  There&#8217;s nothing in the Constitution about the United States of Disney.</p>
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