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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/25/the-visual-display-of-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-297229</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As stupid as the graphic is, it&#039;s not FNC.  It&#039;s something from the local news broadcast on WFLD Chicago, the local fox affiliate.  Nice try though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As stupid as the graphic is, it&#8217;s not <span class="caps">FNC</span>.  It&#8217;s something from the local news broadcast on <span class="caps">WFLD </span>Chicago, the local fox affiliate.  Nice try though.</p>
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		<title>By: lol??</title>
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		<dc:creator>lol??</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...

Either they are truly stupid, and dont understand a pie chart, or they are making a (poor) stacking chart. For instance, someone can support BOTH Palin and Huckabee, and thus the percentages end up overlapping, and stuff like that. I&#039;m too lazy to write out a mathematical explanation, but ya, you should get the point.</description>
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	<p>Either they are truly stupid, and dont understand a pie chart, or they are making a (poor) stacking chart. For instance, someone can support <span class="caps">BOTH </span>Palin and Huckabee, and thus the percentages end up overlapping, and stuff like that. I&#8217;m too lazy to write out a mathematical explanation, but ya, you should get the point.</p>
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		<title>By: TW Andrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>TW Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone alert Stephen Few!</description>
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		<title>By: NewsJunky</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/25/the-visual-display-of-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-296831</link>
		<dc:creator>NewsJunky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HeyKieran,
Nice catch.  But sorry to say, can&#039;t blame FOX NEWS for this one, just a local FOX channel affiliate. A big difference. Try again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>HeyKieran,<br />
Nice catch.  But sorry to say, can&#8217;t blame <span class="caps">FOX NEWS</span> for this one, just a local <span class="caps">FOX</span> channel affiliate. A big difference. Try again!</p>
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		<title>By: marta-NY/NJ</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/25/the-visual-display-of-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-296732</link>
		<dc:creator>marta-NY/NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your answers...I specially love the one that shows that the pie chart adds up to over 100%..that&#039;s Republogic! the art of manipulation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I love your answers&#8230;I specially love the one that shows that the pie chart adds up to over 100%..that&#8217;s Republogic! the art of manipulation!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/11/25/the-visual-display-of-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-296576</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of an old cartoon.... Dilbert: &quot;I did the analysis using your bad assumptions. Then I applied your flawed logic and arrived at your predetermined answer. Shall I begin disillusioning the team?&quot; Boss: &quot;This needs a piechart.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Reminds me of an old cartoon&#8230;. Dilbert: &#8220;I did the analysis using your bad assumptions. Then I applied your flawed logic and arrived at your predetermined answer. Shall I begin disillusioning the team?&#8221; Boss: &#8220;This needs a piechart.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: dionysus hawksby</title>
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		<dc:creator>dionysus hawksby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a terrible representation of whatever data points the fox news came up with. The graph says, &quot;70% back Palin&quot;.  Is the part of the circle represented by Palin backers (presumably the red part) make up of 70% of it&#039;s area? Clearly not. A pie chart is just an idiotic choice for this particular chart. A bar chart would have been much better and clearer. But what else can you expect from innumerate morons at Fox?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is a terrible representation of whatever data points the fox news came up with. The graph says, &#8220;70% back Palin&#8221;.  Is the part of the circle represented by Palin backers (presumably the red part) make up of 70% of it&#8217;s area? Clearly not. A pie chart is just an idiotic choice for this particular chart. A bar chart would have been much better and clearer. But what else can you expect from innumerate morons at Fox?</p>
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		<title>By: AlwaysLooking4Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlwaysLooking4Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The poll numbers make since, but the pie chart?!.....Either some people don&#039;t know how, or when, to properly use a pie chart, or they thought that it would be creative to put the numbers in a &quot;pie form&quot; for a visual not intending to use it as a true &quot;pie chart&quot; either way,  a very dumb idea..... Imagine if we were to search the affiliates of the other networks (as this is an affiliate of FOX not the network FOX NEWS itself) I have no doubt we would get a buttload of this type of stuff, but then again what fun would that be for some............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The poll numbers make since, but the pie chart?!&#8230;..Either some people don&#8217;t know how, or when, to properly use a pie chart, or they thought that it would be creative to put the numbers in a &#8220;pie form&#8221; for a visual not intending to use it as a true &#8220;pie chart&#8221; either way,  a very dumb idea&#8230;.. Imagine if we were to search the affiliates of the other networks (as this is an affiliate of <span class="caps">FOX</span> not the network <span class="caps">FOX NEWS</span> itself) I have no doubt we would get a buttload of this type of stuff, but then again what fun would that be for some&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: UncleJohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>UncleJohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I predict Back Romney will by over 70% by the end of the third half of the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I predict Back Romney will by over 70% by the end of the third half of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: cc</title>
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		<dc:creator>cc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my guess is that FN did this intentionally, like labeling scandal ridden republicans with a &quot;D&quot; in the graphic. they know their viewers. now many will spend their thanksgiving talking about how 60 to 70 percent of the people support one of these three for president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>my guess is that FN did this intentionally, like labeling scandal ridden republicans with a &#8220;D&#8221; in the graphic. they know their viewers. now many will spend their thanksgiving talking about how 60 to 70 percent of the people support one of these three for president.</p>
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		<title>By: Newstech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newstech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three dimensions?  I would have thought at least four.</description>
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		<title>By: Kenny Easwaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny Easwaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mollymooly - that&#039;s just a trick of perspective.  Note that Palin and Romney&#039;s regions meet in basically a horizontal line at the right, if not one that is slightly tilted downwards.  On the other end, her region clearly has a greater angle from vertical than his.  So the angle in her wedge is definitely greater than his.  The fact that his seems to take up a larger fraction of the image is presumably only because the circle is tilted away from us, so Palin&#039;s region looks smaller due to perspective.  (Yes, this is a pie chart in three-dimensions.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>mollymooly &#8211; that&#8217;s just a trick of perspective.  Note that Palin and Romney&#8217;s regions meet in basically a horizontal line at the right, if not one that is slightly tilted downwards.  On the other end, her region clearly has a greater angle from vertical than his.  So the angle in her wedge is definitely greater than his.  The fact that his seems to take up a larger fraction of the image is presumably only because the circle is tilted away from us, so Palin&#8217;s region looks smaller due to perspective.  (Yes, this is a pie chart in three-dimensions.)</p>
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		<title>By: mollymooly</title>
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		<dc:creator>mollymooly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Romney&#039;s green 60% appear bigger than Palin&#039;s red 70%? 

I guess red doesn&#039;t make her base look big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Why does Romney&#8217;s green 60% appear bigger than Palin&#8217;s red 70%?</p>

	<p>I guess red doesn&#8217;t make her base look big.</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;you may think of it as a badly flawed and unfair pie chart, I prefer to see it as actually just an extreme version of a genuine pie chart.&lt;/i&gt;

I see what you did there.

...well, we could argue for ages over whether it&#039;s a &quot;lie&quot; or the &quot;truth&quot;, but really all we&#039;re doing is playing with Somantics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>you may think of it as a badly flawed and unfair pie chart, I prefer to see it as actually just an extreme version of a genuine pie chart.</i></p>

	<p>I see what you did there.</p>

	<p>&#8230;well, we could argue for ages over whether it&#8217;s a &#8220;lie&#8221; or the &#8220;truth&#8221;, but really all we&#8217;re doing is playing with Somantics.</p>
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		<title>By: James Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did they just divide the circle into three parts and then stick the favorability ratings on there without regard for the standard meaning of pie charts?</description>
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