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		<title>By: David Morrice</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/12/17/top-political-philosophy-books-of-the-noughties/comment-page-2/#comment-299531</link>
		<dc:creator>David Morrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting as all this speculation and judgement has been, I think it might be premature. The decade now known as the noughties does not end until 2010 does. I know it is ten years since we celebrated the new millennium, but we were one year early then also. I understand that in 2010 Dworkin publishes his new book on justice, which might well be a contender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Very interesting as all this speculation and judgement has been, I think it might be premature. The decade now known as the noughties does not end until 2010 does. I know it is ten years since we celebrated the new millennium, but we were one year early then also. I understand that in 2010 Dworkin publishes his new book on justice, which might well be a contender.</p>
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		<title>By: donpaskini</title>
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		<dc:creator>donpaskini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One book which no one has mentioned which I enjoyed is &#039;the Persistence of Poverty&#039; by Charles Karelis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One book which no one has mentioned which I enjoyed is &#8216;the Persistence of Poverty&#8217; by Charles Karelis.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hurka</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/12/17/top-political-philosophy-books-of-the-noughties/comment-page-2/#comment-299314</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hurka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ingrid:

Just back to the thread, and Brian at #50 links to my review of Geuss, which actually is more polite than it could be. Geuss huffs and puffs about an alternative view he has but doesn&#039;t do anything to show that it&#039;s even coherent, and his criticisms of Nozick and Rawls are juvenile and unfair. (Those of Nozick, e.g., assume tjat the whole content of ASN is given in its first sentence.) Enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ingrid:</p>

	<p>Just back to the thread, and Brian at #50 links to my review of Geuss, which actually is more polite than it could be. Geuss huffs and puffs about an alternative view he has but doesn&#8217;t do anything to show that it&#8217;s even coherent, and his criticisms of Nozick and Rawls are juvenile and unfair. (Those of Nozick, e.g., assume tjat the whole content of <span class="caps">ASN</span> is given in its first sentence.) Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Praisegod Barebones</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/12/17/top-political-philosophy-books-of-the-noughties/comment-page-2/#comment-299302</link>
		<dc:creator>Praisegod Barebones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>written, even.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>written, even.</p>
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		<title>By: Praisegod Barebones</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/12/17/top-political-philosophy-books-of-the-noughties/comment-page-2/#comment-299301</link>
		<dc:creator>Praisegod Barebones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One book writtne in the last 10 years which I think should have got more attention from people working in analytic political philosophy is Philip Kitcher&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Scıence Truth and Democracy&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One book writtne in the last 10 years which I think should have got more attention from people working in analytic political philosophy is Philip Kitcher&#8217;s <i>Scıence Truth and Democracy</i></p>
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		<title>By: Hidari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hidari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#54    Judging by your website, I think you will particularly enjoy it. 

Merry Christmas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#54    Judging by your website, I think you will particularly enjoy it.</p>

	<p>Merry Christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: djw</title>
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		<dc:creator>djw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously there was an html tag failure, I meant to highlight the first para as Jacob&#039;s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Obviously there was an html tag failure, I meant to highlight the first para as Jacob&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: djw</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/12/17/top-political-philosophy-books-of-the-noughties/comment-page-2/#comment-299295</link>
		<dc:creator>djw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it’s also seemed very self-contained to me, whereas those ‘defining topics’ of the 70s/ 80s/ 90s tended to draw people in—lots of people who weren’t devoting their whole intellectual projects to the subject nonetheless decided that they either wanted to bring the subject to bear on their own interests or wanted to bring their own interests to bear on the subject.

Jacob, I take no position on whether global justice has been the defining issue of the 00&#039;s, but I do think that if you take a broader view of what constitutes the literature on global justice than an intra-Rawlsian debate about the the boundaries of distributive justice, it has drawn a number of people in. Not just young scholars, but notable senior scholars whose work wasn&#039;t directly about global political theory before but have recently turned their attention to the subject include: Fraser, Nagel, Young, Habermas, Miller, Connolly, Benhabib, Singer, Derrida,  Connolly, Dallmyar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>But it&#8217;s also seemed very self-contained to me, whereas those &#8216;defining topics&#8217; of the 70s/ 80s/ 90s tended to draw people in&#8212;lots of people who weren&#8217;t devoting their whole intellectual projects to the subject nonetheless decided that they either wanted to bring the subject to bear on their own interests or wanted to bring their own interests to bear on the subject.</p>

	<p>Jacob, I take no position on whether global justice has been the defining issue of the 00&#8217;s, but I do think that if you take a broader view of what constitutes the literature on global justice than an intra-Rawlsian debate about the the boundaries of distributive justice, it has drawn a number of people in. Not just young scholars, but notable senior scholars whose work wasn&#8217;t directly about global political theory before but have recently turned their attention to the subject include: Fraser, Nagel, Young, Habermas, Miller, Connolly, Benhabib, Singer, Derrida,  Connolly, Dallmyar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yarrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yarrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hidari@53: I just ordered &lt;i&gt;The Fiction of a Thinkable World&lt;/i&gt;.  Thanks for the reference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hidari@53: I just ordered <i>The Fiction of a Thinkable World</i>.  Thanks for the reference.</p>
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		<title>By: Hidari</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/12/17/top-political-philosophy-books-of-the-noughties/comment-page-2/#comment-299288</link>
		<dc:creator>Hidari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  haven&#039;t read (or, for that matter, heard of) any of the books published above, and so therefore feel free to recommend a book that none of you will have read or heard of. 

Michael Steinberg&#039;s The Fiction of a Thinkable World: Body, Meaning and the Culture of Capitalism, strikes me as being one of the genuinely great books of our era, unifying contemporary cognitive psychology, contemporary political philosophy, geography, history, and moral philosophy in a genuinely stimulating and profound manner. 

David Graeber correctly states: that (this book) &#039;is a groundbreaking work of ethical theory and a fascinating read. I don&#039;t know if this book will be considered important fifty years from now. But I certainly hope so, because it deserves to be.&#039;

http://www.monthlyreview.org/books/fictionthinkableworld.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I  haven&#8217;t read (or, for that matter, heard of) any of the books published above, and so therefore feel free to recommend a book that none of you will have read or heard of.</p>

	<p>Michael Steinberg&#8217;s The Fiction of a Thinkable World: Body, Meaning and the Culture of Capitalism, strikes me as being one of the genuinely great books of our era, unifying contemporary cognitive psychology, contemporary political philosophy, geography, history, and moral philosophy in a genuinely stimulating and profound manner.</p>

	<p>David Graeber correctly states: that (this book) &#8216;is a groundbreaking work of ethical theory and a fascinating read. I don&#8217;t know if this book will be considered important fifty years from now. But I certainly hope so, because it deserves to be.&#8217;</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.monthlyreview.org/books/fictionthinkableworld.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.monthlyreview.org/books/fictionthinkableworld.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Donald Johnson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/12/17/top-political-philosophy-books-of-the-noughties/comment-page-2/#comment-299284</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think A Secular Age is a complete mess of a book, but a glorious mess,&quot;

 Maybe I&#039;ll give it a third try.   (I&#039;m just a layperson, but as a Christian interested, at least in theory, in what Taylor has to say.  In practice I just couldn&#039;t get more than 50-100 pages into it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I think A Secular Age is a complete mess of a book, but a glorious mess,&#8221;</p>

	<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll give it a third try.   (I&#8217;m just a layperson, but as a Christian interested, at least in theory, in what Taylor has to say.  In practice I just couldn&#8217;t get more than 50-100 pages into it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Arben Fox</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/12/17/top-political-philosophy-books-of-the-noughties/comment-page-2/#comment-299282</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Arben Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I would also say that the communitarian text most mentioned in the thread (Taylor’s A Secular Age) struck me as an ill-focused historical ramble rather than a decent bit of argument and that Taylor’s yearnings for the enchanted consciousness of the middle ages didn’t enlighten (sorry!) all that much for me.&lt;/i&gt;

Fair enough, Chris; as I said (I think over on Jacob&#039;s original Facebook entry) I think &lt;i&gt;A Secular Age&lt;/i&gt; is a complete mess of a book, but a glorious mess, bursting with fascinating ideas. I would add, though, that I would be hard pressed to make an accounting of that book which resulted in it being labeled a &quot;communitarian text.&quot; Those sorts of arguments, however varied, aren&#039;t central to its thesis (or theses) at all. If Taylor penned anything truly &quot;communitarian&quot; (however defined) in the last ten years, it wasn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;A Secular Age&lt;/i&gt;, but rather his contributions to the Bouchard-Taylor report on Quebec (which &lt;a href=&quot;http://inmedias.blogspot.com/2008/06/future-of-communitarianism-and-or-in.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I would argue&lt;/a&gt; deserves to be taken seriously as a work of public political theorizing).

Jacob, give us your list!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I would also say that the communitarian text most mentioned in the thread (Taylor&#8217;s A Secular Age) struck me as an ill-focused historical ramble rather than a decent bit of argument and that Taylor&#8217;s yearnings for the enchanted consciousness of the middle ages didn&#8217;t enlighten (sorry!) all that much for me.</i></p>

	<p>Fair enough, Chris; as I said (I think over on Jacob&#8217;s original Facebook entry) I think <i>A Secular Age</i> is a complete mess of a book, but a glorious mess, bursting with fascinating ideas. I would add, though, that I would be hard pressed to make an accounting of that book which resulted in it being labeled a &#8220;communitarian text.&#8221; Those sorts of arguments, however varied, aren&#8217;t central to its thesis (or theses) at all. If Taylor penned anything truly &#8220;communitarian&#8221; (however defined) in the last ten years, it wasn&#8217;t <i>A Secular Age</i>, but rather his contributions to the Bouchard-Taylor report on Quebec (which <a href="http://inmedias.blogspot.com/2008/06/future-of-communitarianism-and-or-in.html" rel="nofollow">I would argue</a> deserves to be taken seriously as a work of public political theorizing).</p>

	<p>Jacob, give us your list!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Hurka reviews the Geuss book here:
http://ndpr.nd.edu/review.cfm?id=15086

Having read the book a few weeks ago, it seems to me a wholly fair assessment.  The book is an almost complete disappointment, esp. for those like Hurka or myself who are well-disposed towards a Rawls skewering.   Much of the discussion of Rawls proceeds at a level of sophomoric mischaracterization.  There are two chapters in Geuss&#039;s book &quot;Outside Ethics&quot; which are much better on Rawls than anything in this book.  The strongest complaint he musters here is a version of the one Hare first made decades ago about the method of &#039;reflective equilibrium,&#039; namely, that such a method has no way of checking the moral correctness of the intuitions that are baseline data points for the theory (Geuss frames the point in terms of such intuitions being possibly ideological in the pejorative sense).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Tom Hurka reviews the Geuss book here:<br />
<a href="http://ndpr.nd.edu/review.cfm?id=15086" rel="nofollow">http://ndpr.nd.edu/review.cfm?id=15086</a></p>

	<p>Having read the book a few weeks ago, it seems to me a wholly fair assessment.  The book is an almost complete disappointment, esp. for those like Hurka or myself who are well-disposed towards a Rawls skewering.   Much of the discussion of Rawls proceeds at a level of sophomoric mischaracterization.  There are two chapters in Geuss&#8217;s book &#8220;Outside Ethics&#8221; which are much better on Rawls than anything in this book.  The strongest complaint he musters here is a version of the one Hare first made decades ago about the method of &#8216;reflective equilibrium,&#8217; namely, that such a method has no way of checking the moral correctness of the intuitions that are baseline data points for the theory (Geuss frames the point in terms of such intuitions being possibly ideological in the pejorative sense).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bertram</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2009/12/17/top-political-philosophy-books-of-the-noughties/comment-page-1/#comment-299278</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Bertram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On &quot;seeing off the communitarians&quot;, perhaps I should elaborate ....

What I meant was that the keepers of the Rawlsian flame answered &quot;the communitarian critique of liberalism&quot; (tm) to their own satisfaction, and moved on. I think, by the way, that insofar as that critique amounted to the specific points made by, say, Sandel, in LLJ, the Rawlsians were basically correct to announce victory (since Guttman, Kymlicka and Pogge - to name but three, hit him for six on his understandings of Rawls).  I didn&#039;t mean to suggest that any critique of liberalism that might plausibly be labelled &quot;communitarian&quot; had been seen off.

However, I would also say that the communitarian text most mentioned in the thread (Taylor&#039;s A Secular Age) struck me as an ill-focused historical ramble rather than a decent bit of argument and that Taylor&#039;s yearnings for the enchanted consciousness of the middle ages didn&#039;t enlighten (sorry!) all that much for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>On &#8220;seeing off the communitarians&#8221;, perhaps I should elaborate &#8230;.</p>

	<p>What I meant was that the keepers of the Rawlsian flame answered &#8220;the communitarian critique of liberalism&#8221; &#8482; to their own satisfaction, and moved on. I think, by the way, that insofar as that critique amounted to the specific points made by, say, Sandel, in <span class="caps">LLJ</span>, the Rawlsians were basically correct to announce victory (since Guttman, Kymlicka and Pogge &#8211; to name but three, hit him for six on his understandings of Rawls).  I didn&#8217;t mean to suggest that any critique of liberalism that might plausibly be labelled &#8220;communitarian&#8221; had been seen off.</p>

	<p>However, I would also say that the communitarian text most mentioned in the thread (Taylor&#8217;s A Secular Age) struck me as an ill-focused historical ramble rather than a decent bit of argument and that Taylor&#8217;s yearnings for the enchanted consciousness of the middle ages didn&#8217;t enlighten (sorry!) all that much for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran Healy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieran Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Patters of Moral Complexity&lt;/i&gt;

This would be a great name for a book.</description>
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	<p>This would be a great name for a book.</p>
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