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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2010/01/24/essential-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-302908</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ridiculous to bemoan media coverage of the Middle East by mentioning Hanan Ashrawi, who never anything but a CNN creation.</description>
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		<title>By: Alice de Tocqueville</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2010/01/24/essential-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-302840</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice de Tocqueville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just yesterday I came across some Youtube videos of Robert Fisk, especially a 6-part series about Beirut called The Martyr&#039;s Smile. He shows how journalism is done. He&#039;s interviewed Osama bin Laden twice, but just as important, he&#039;s interviewed the mothers of suicide bombers, as well as a kidnapper of Americans who was caught and jailed, but then traded for some American captives. Fisk was a personal friend of Terry Anderson, and asks the guy whether it&#039;s moral to kidnap someone like Anderson who&#039;s only ever tried to help people. The kidnapper (a quite sensitive-seeming person) says it&#039;s not right, but then he&#039;s just one, and there were 16 or 17 thousand Arabs being held, and tortured by Israel without charges, trial or contact with family or anyone (still are), and no one in the West cares about that. 
In another interview there, he&#039;s asked about his criticism of contemporary so-called &#039;objective&#039; journalism. He says when you walk thru, say, Sabra and Shatila, which he did, immediately after the massacre (there was still some firing by the Phalangists going on) and you see babies, children and elderly among the hundreds of bodies, none of which have weapons near them, it&#039;s not &#039;objective&#039; to just say &#039;the Israeli foreign minister said such and such. And he said, &quot;If you were reporting the liberation of, say, Auschwitz, would you provide &#039;balance&#039; by providing the comments of the camp commandant?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Just yesterday I came across some Youtube videos of Robert Fisk, especially a 6-part series about Beirut called The Martyr&#8217;s Smile. He shows how journalism is done. He&#8217;s interviewed Osama bin Laden twice, but just as important, he&#8217;s interviewed the mothers of suicide bombers, as well as a kidnapper of Americans who was caught and jailed, but then traded for some American captives. Fisk was a personal friend of Terry Anderson, and asks the guy whether it&#8217;s moral to kidnap someone like Anderson who&#8217;s only ever tried to help people. The kidnapper (a quite sensitive-seeming person) says it&#8217;s not right, but then he&#8217;s just one, and there were 16 or 17 thousand Arabs being held, and tortured by Israel without charges, trial or contact with family or anyone (still are), and no one in the West cares about that.<br />
In another interview there, he&#8217;s asked about his criticism of contemporary so-called &#8216;objective&#8217; journalism. He says when you walk thru, say, Sabra and Shatila, which he did, immediately after the massacre (there was still some firing by the Phalangists going on) and you see babies, children and elderly among the hundreds of bodies, none of which have weapons near them, it&#8217;s not &#8216;objective&#8217; to just say &#8216;the Israeli foreign minister said such and such. And he said, &#8220;If you were reporting the liberation of, say, Auschwitz, would you provide &#8216;balance&#8217; by providing the comments of the camp commandant?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Hungover Guy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2010/01/24/essential-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-302644</link>
		<dc:creator>Hungover Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I can understand right now, I think you&#039;re right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As much as I can understand right now, I think you&#8217;re right!</p>
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		<title>By: Akshay</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2010/01/24/essential-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-302465</link>
		<dc:creator>Akshay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be clear, I think the translators were right to translate the positive message of the Dutch title: those Others are people, just like us. That the sarcasm is aimed at lack of empathy is clear to a Dutch audience, but it would simply sound nasty to others.
I brought up the title because I think that for Luyendijk, it is not merely an inability to get at the Truth, which is important: he is most troubled by the inability of journalistic institutions to convey an empathetic understanding of their subjects. Human beings get used as background to &quot;The Narrative&quot; or worse, as titillating images on TV. 

Luyendijk suggests that journalists should be far more open about the difficulties of their work, about the limitations of working in dictatorships or propaganda wars and simply tell people about them. News stories should be more reflexive. Concretely, reporters should say &quot;I am now embedded and that means that...&quot;, or &quot;X is offering us this &#039;news item&#039;, Y&#039;s slant is this, but frankly, there is a lot of spin and I can&#039;t really tell right now what is really going on&quot;. This comes closer to the ideal of &#039;telling it like it is&#039; than the usual convention of reporting like an omniscient narrator.

However, he also makes an even riskier suggestion: to simply drop the convention of journalistic detachment when it gets in the way of empathy. If more journalists would say things like &quot;The grief was palpable, I was shaken and troubled by witnessing it as an outsider&quot;, they might no longer return to their hotel rooms to see the mourners they had accompanied presented as an angry mob on cable news. Perhaps because the risks are obvious, it&#039;s the immanent critique of journalistic objectivity which gets most of the attention. But I think we should keep in mind that empathy is the ultimate goal. We don&#039;t merely want to spout fashionable postmodernist verbiage about the nonexistence of the truly true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>To be clear, I think the translators were right to translate the positive message of the Dutch title: those Others are people, just like us. That the sarcasm is aimed at lack of empathy is clear to a Dutch audience, but it would simply sound nasty to others.<br />
I brought up the title because I think that for Luyendijk, it is not merely an inability to get at the Truth, which is important: he is most troubled by the inability of journalistic institutions to convey an empathetic understanding of their subjects. Human beings get used as background to &#8220;The Narrative&#8221; or worse, as titillating images on TV.</p>

	<p>Luyendijk suggests that journalists should be far more open about the difficulties of their work, about the limitations of working in dictatorships or propaganda wars and simply tell people about them. News stories should be more reflexive. Concretely, reporters should say &#8220;I am now embedded and that means that&#8230;&#8221;, or &#8220;X is offering us this &#8216;news item&#8217;, Y&#8217;s slant is this, but frankly, there is a lot of spin and I can&#8217;t really tell right now what is really going on&#8221;. This comes closer to the ideal of &#8216;telling it like it is&#8217; than the usual convention of reporting like an omniscient narrator.</p>

	<p>However, he also makes an even riskier suggestion: to simply drop the convention of journalistic detachment when it gets in the way of empathy. If more journalists would say things like &#8220;The grief was palpable, I was shaken and troubled by witnessing it as an outsider&#8221;, they might no longer return to their hotel rooms to see the mourners they had accompanied presented as an angry mob on cable news. Perhaps because the risks are obvious, it&#8217;s the immanent critique of journalistic objectivity which gets most of the attention. But I think we should keep in mind that empathy is the ultimate goal. We don&#8217;t merely want to spout fashionable postmodernist verbiage about the nonexistence of the truly true.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Johnson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2010/01/24/essential-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-302463</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; And ordinary people (if you can overcome intra-arabic linguistic barriers at all) are too scared to tell you what they really think and say stuff that you can’t use because you can’t attribute.&quot;

I think Tom Friedman has had a lot of success with taxi drivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8221; And ordinary people (if you can overcome intra-arabic linguistic barriers at all) are too scared to tell you what they really think and say stuff that you can&#8217;t use because you can&#8217;t attribute.&#8221;</p>

	<p>I think Tom Friedman has had a lot of success with taxi drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bertram</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2010/01/24/essential-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-302461</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Bertram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;m embarrassed not to have remembered that Ingrid.</description>
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		<title>By: Ingrid Robeyns</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2010/01/24/essential-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-302448</link>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Robeyns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, I blogged about the original Dutch version of this book (with the same enthusiasm as Chris) in one of my very first posts here in August 2006, see 
http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/23/a-correspondent-in-the-middle-east/

I am glad to read it&#039;s now translated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Incidentally, I blogged about the original Dutch version of this book (with the same enthusiasm as Chris) in one of my very first posts here in August 2006, see<br />
<a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/23/a-correspondent-in-the-middle-east/" rel="nofollow">http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/23/a-correspondent-in-the-middle-east/</a></p>

	<p>I am glad to read it&#8217;s now translated!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Wilkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always good value, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E21MdXe3BOQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tony Benn&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Always good value, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E21MdXe3BOQ" rel="nofollow">Tony Benn</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Zamfir</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2010/01/24/essential-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-302381</link>
		<dc:creator>Zamfir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sarcasm rarely works well in the public sphere; and whatever the noble intentions behind the title, in English some at least of the nuance would be read as sarcasm.&lt;/i&gt;
The sarcasm is definitely there in the original too, slightly softened by the neutral undertitle that simply says &quot;Images from the Middle East&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Sarcasm rarely works well in the public sphere; and whatever the noble intentions behind the title, in English some at least of the nuance would be read as sarcasm.</i><br />
The sarcasm is definitely there in the original too, slightly softened by the neutral undertitle that simply says &#8220;Images from the Middle East&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: des von bladet</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2010/01/24/essential-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-302380</link>
		<dc:creator>des von bladet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cover-photo on my copy is largely obscured by a sticker proclaiming it to be the winner of the &lt;i&gt;NS Publieksprijs&lt;/i&gt; for &lt;i&gt;Boek van het jaar 2007&lt;/i&gt;.

But it is CB&#039;s review that has prompted me to get it down from the attic and start reading it at last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The cover-photo on my copy is largely obscured by a sticker proclaiming it to be the winner of the <i><span class="caps">NS </span>Publieksprijs</i> for <i>Boek van het jaar 2007</i>.</p>

	<p>But it is CB&#8217;s review that has prompted me to get it down from the attic and start reading it at last.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarcasm rarely works well in the public sphere; and whatever the noble intentions behind the title, in English some at least of the nuance would be read as sarcasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sarcasm rarely works well in the public sphere; and whatever the noble intentions behind the title, in English some at least of the nuance would be read as sarcasm.</p>
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		<title>By: Hidari</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2010/01/24/essential-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-302376</link>
		<dc:creator>Hidari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;That’s a problem if you are a commercial organization selling a product: Americans (for example) want (or wanted) to watch reports that confirm their patriotic view of their military and its essentially benign mission. So even if you could do your job properly, you’d have a tough time getting people to watch or listen.&#039;

With the decline of the organised &#039;radical&#039; Left, this is something that doesn&#039;t get nearly enough attention nowadays. People have to become aware (as they once were, but aren&#039;t any more) that, whatever the talents and abilities of individual teachers, schools are, in the final analysis, run by the State.* And, given this, one should not be surprised if they end up attempting to mould children into &#039;worthwhile&#039; citizens of the State, and this is, in fact, what they do. 

Obviously there are all sorts of problems with modern schools, but the most egregious of their sins, and the most relevant to the piece above, is in the teaching of History. As I think I&#039;ve mentioned before, I was at school till I was 17, and yet in all that time, I was not given &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; tuition or teaching, or any sort, about the British Empire. This despite the fact that, for most people &#039;abroad&#039; the fact that Britain had the largest Empire of all time (and then lost most, but not all of it)  is the key fact about 19th and 20th century Britain. 

But how are we to even begin to have an understanding of (for example) the contemporary middle East without knowledge of the Balfour declaration? Or Sykes-Picot? Or the WW2 invasions of Iraq and Iran? Or later British &#039;interventions&#039; in, for example, Oman? 

These issues are sometimes discussed but usually in terms of media analysis, and obviously, the media should be mentioning these things. But frankly, they should be part of &#039;our&#039; &#039;common knowledge&#039;. And discussing these things  in a media context gives one&#039;s opponents the obvious rejoinder that these facts are &#039;boring&#039; (as opposed to Nuts and Zoo magazine, which are, apparently, &#039;fun&#039; and &#039;exciting&#039;). And to be honest, they are a bit boring. But that&#039;s precisely why kids should be taught them at school. 

Unfortunately, of course, I have no idea what to do about any of this. In the absence of the rise of a radical Left wing political movement (which, in Britain and the United States at the moment looks about as likely as a Martian invasion) to put pressure on the Govt, what can one do? Might it be possible to put together a &#039;pack&#039; about the British Empire for possible use in schools? I seem to remember this being mooted a while back. Of course, it depends a lot on what might be in this proposed &#039;module&#039;: with Blair and Brown apparently convinced that the British Empire was a &#039;good thing&#039;, a genuinely critical discussion seems hard to imagine. 

But to return to the subject of the post: yes. The average British and American are not sympathetic to the Arab cause, but that&#039;s because of what they have been taught (and have not been taught) about the history of the Middle East, and in the United States we have the baleful influence of modern (radical, protestant) religion as well. 

Of course this should in no way exonerate the modern media, who have so dismally failed to keep their readers informed about foreign affairs generally, and the middle eastern situation in particular. 






*Or in the case of private schools, follow a curriculum set by the State.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8216;That&#8217;s a problem if you are a commercial organization selling a product: Americans (for example) want (or wanted) to watch reports that confirm their patriotic view of their military and its essentially benign mission. So even if you could do your job properly, you&#8217;d have a tough time getting people to watch or listen.&#8217;</p>

	<p>With the decline of the organised &#8216;radical&#8217; Left, this is something that doesn&#8217;t get nearly enough attention nowadays. People have to become aware (as they once were, but aren&#8217;t any more) that, whatever the talents and abilities of individual teachers, schools are, in the final analysis, run by the State.* And, given this, one should not be surprised if they end up attempting to mould children into &#8216;worthwhile&#8217; citizens of the State, and this is, in fact, what they do.</p>

	<p>Obviously there are all sorts of problems with modern schools, but the most egregious of their sins, and the most relevant to the piece above, is in the teaching of History. As I think I&#8217;ve mentioned before, I was at school till I was 17, and yet in all that time, I was not given <i>any</i> tuition or teaching, or any sort, about the British Empire. This despite the fact that, for most people &#8216;abroad&#8217; the fact that Britain had the largest Empire of all time (and then lost most, but not all of it)  is the key fact about 19th and 20th century Britain.</p>

	<p>But how are we to even begin to have an understanding of (for example) the contemporary middle East without knowledge of the Balfour declaration? Or Sykes-Picot? Or the <span class="caps">WW2</span> invasions of Iraq and Iran? Or later British &#8216;interventions&#8217; in, for example, Oman?</p>

	<p>These issues are sometimes discussed but usually in terms of media analysis, and obviously, the media should be mentioning these things. But frankly, they should be part of &#8216;our&#8217; &#8216;common knowledge&#8217;. And discussing these things  in a media context gives one&#8217;s opponents the obvious rejoinder that these facts are &#8216;boring&#8217; (as opposed to Nuts and Zoo magazine, which are, apparently, &#8216;fun&#8217; and &#8216;exciting&#8217;). And to be honest, they are a bit boring. But that&#8217;s precisely why kids should be taught them at school.</p>

	<p>Unfortunately, of course, I have no idea what to do about any of this. In the absence of the rise of a radical Left wing political movement (which, in Britain and the United States at the moment looks about as likely as a Martian invasion) to put pressure on the Govt, what can one do? Might it be possible to put together a &#8216;pack&#8217; about the British Empire for possible use in schools? I seem to remember this being mooted a while back. Of course, it depends a lot on what might be in this proposed &#8216;module&#8217;: with Blair and Brown apparently convinced that the British Empire was a &#8216;good thing&#8217;, a genuinely critical discussion seems hard to imagine.</p>

	<p>But to return to the subject of the post: yes. The average British and American are not sympathetic to the Arab cause, but that&#8217;s because of what they have been taught (and have not been taught) about the history of the Middle East, and in the United States we have the baleful influence of modern (radical, protestant) religion as well.</p>

	<p>Of course this should in no way exonerate the modern media, who have so dismally failed to keep their readers informed about foreign affairs generally, and the middle eastern situation in particular.</p>






	<p>*Or in the case of private schools, follow a curriculum set by the State.</p>
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		<title>By: Zamfir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zamfir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that the title can&#039;t be translated literally.  Apparently, the barrier between Dutch and English is already too large to get the provacation across with the right nuance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s interesting that the title can&#8217;t be translated literally.  Apparently, the barrier between Dutch and English is already too large to get the provacation across with the right nuance.</p>
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		<title>By: weaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is out of print I wouldn&#039;t worry because apparently in May it&#039;s being re-released  with yet another title: &lt;i&gt;Hello Everybody!: One Journalist&#039;s Search for Truth in the Middle East &lt;/i&gt;. Perhaps Profile Books thought that &quot;misrepresenting&quot; bit was a tad harsh.

Three different titles for the English translation? Seriously, publishers, have you not got your pointy little heads around the fact that books have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/search/advanced?searchAuthor=Joris-Luyendijk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;global market now?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If it is out of print I wouldn&#8217;t worry because apparently in May it&#8217;s being re-released  with yet another title: <i>Hello Everybody!: One Journalist&#8217;s Search for Truth in the Middle East </i>. Perhaps Profile Books thought that &#8220;misrepresenting&#8221; bit was a tad harsh.</p>

	<p>Three different titles for the English translation? Seriously, publishers, have you not got your pointy little heads around the fact that books have a <a href="http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/search/advanced?searchAuthor=Joris-Luyendijk" rel="nofollow">global market now?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Map Maker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Map Maker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tough issue - when any of us look at the &quot;other&quot; we are seeing them through our lens across any number of cultural, religious, political, and economic views.  Hanan Ashrawi&#039;s views are far less common than Hamas&#039; - who represents the authentic voice?  Where is the truth?  If you were looking for Truth, it isn&#039;t in the media ... try one of the major religions involved in the conflict.

As for the cheap shot about Glenn Reynolds, ask Yehia El-Mashad if saving potentially millions of lives is worth one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Tough issue &#8211; when any of us look at the &#8220;other&#8221; we are seeing them through our lens across any number of cultural, religious, political, and economic views.  Hanan Ashrawi&#8217;s views are far less common than Hamas&#8217; &#8211; who represents the authentic voice?  Where is the truth?  If you were looking for Truth, it isn&#8217;t in the media &#8230; try one of the major religions involved in the conflict.</p>

	<p>As for the cheap shot about Glenn Reynolds, ask Yehia El-Mashad if saving potentially millions of lives is worth one?</p>
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