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		<title>By: Steve J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 06:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple doesn&#039;t allow flash on iOS because then Apple would lose control of the platform.  Flash allows you to load and run applications that don&#039;t have approval from the Apple Store.

It has nothing to do with the particular features of Flash.  Similarly, Apple doesn&#039;t allow Java.  Apple doesn&#039;t allow you to run a Commodore64 emulator, because the C64 had a BASIC interpreter!

No interpreters of any kind are allowed.  Because once you allow any interpreter of any kind (including Flash), users can use it to run any program they want, (even write their own programs!) without Apple being able to exercise a veto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple doesn&#8217;t allow flash on iOS because then Apple would lose control of the platform.  Flash allows you to load and run applications that don&#8217;t have approval from the Apple Store.</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with the particular features of Flash.  Similarly, Apple doesn&#8217;t allow Java.  Apple doesn&#8217;t allow you to run a Commodore64 emulator, because the C64 had a BASIC interpreter!</p>
<p>No interpreters of any kind are allowed.  Because once you allow any interpreter of any kind (including Flash), users can use it to run any program they want, (even write their own programs!) without Apple being able to exercise a veto.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2012/11/05/chromebook-question/comment-page-1/#comment-433423</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 06:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick, yeah, Flash is terrible.  Firefox crashes all the time for me and Flash is always involved.  However Flash is ubiquitous and is basically the standard for video and animation on the web.  For a long time it was the only game in town and so it&#039;s what all the web programmers know.  HTML5&#039;s new and not universally supported.  Flash actually is very widely supported--it&#039;s basically just iOS and very low-quality browsers built into TVs and such that don&#039;t support it.  So even though Flash sucks and Adobe is planning to abandon it, sites will continue to require it for a long time.  Even after HTML5 is well established many sites (especially small-time operations like schools) will continue using Flash because they don&#039;t want to pay someone to redo their system or because their in-house guys only know the old ways.*  These things do not change quickly.

*Which is probably why Apple refuses to allow Flash for iOS application development.  They know that if they let them tons of companies will hire programmers who only know how to hack things out in Flash, and the resulting poor performance will make iOS look bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, yeah, Flash is terrible.  Firefox crashes all the time for me and Flash is always involved.  However Flash is ubiquitous and is basically the standard for video and animation on the web.  For a long time it was the only game in town and so it&#8217;s what all the web programmers know.  HTML5&#8242;s new and not universally supported.  Flash actually is very widely supported&#8211;it&#8217;s basically just iOS and very low-quality browsers built into TVs and such that don&#8217;t support it.  So even though Flash sucks and Adobe is planning to abandon it, sites will continue to require it for a long time.  Even after HTML5 is well established many sites (especially small-time operations like schools) will continue using Flash because they don&#8217;t want to pay someone to redo their system or because their in-house guys only know the old ways.*  These things do not change quickly.</p>
<p>*Which is probably why Apple refuses to allow Flash for iOS application development.  They know that if they let them tons of companies will hire programmers who only know how to hack things out in Flash, and the resulting poor performance will make iOS look bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex C</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2012/11/05/chromebook-question/comment-page-1/#comment-433319</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 12:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an academic, you might consider a tablet with keyboard over a Chromebook. As someone said above, both are just slim portals to the Internet. You&#039;ll anyway want a bigger home/office computer anyway for the odd thing they can&#039;t do.

For me, a tablet&#039;s killer app is the ability to carry around a database of annotated papers. They also double as an excellent e-reader. I have an iPad, but I imagine Windows and Android gadgets would do this too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an academic, you might consider a tablet with keyboard over a Chromebook. As someone said above, both are just slim portals to the Internet. You&#8217;ll anyway want a bigger home/office computer anyway for the odd thing they can&#8217;t do.</p>
<p>For me, a tablet&#8217;s killer app is the ability to carry around a database of annotated papers. They also double as an excellent e-reader. I have an iPad, but I imagine Windows and Android gadgets would do this too.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 21:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Magnus, that&#039;s really helpful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Magnus, that&#8217;s really helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2012/11/05/chromebook-question/comment-page-1/#comment-433256</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 18:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I have one of the original Chromebooks that Google sent out for free in early 2011. Specs-wise, it’s dated, and it struggles to run the latest Chrome OS. That said, it is my go-to laptop and serves about 90% of the needs I have that sit between a full desktop and my iPad. I program on it, I write things on it, and I use it for Google Reader (which is a terrible experience on the iPad). So based on my experience and knowing that the Samsung Chromebook is likely to have better hardware, I would recommend it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If by some bizarre chance, anyone at Google or Samsung is reading this, and wants to send me a free Chromebook, happy to review it ;) Like a few of the people above, I have a phone running plain vanilla Android, that can serve as a tether for Internet access. Thanks all for the recommendations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have one of the original Chromebooks that Google sent out for free in early 2011. Specs-wise, it’s dated, and it struggles to run the latest Chrome OS. That said, it is my go-to laptop and serves about 90% of the needs I have that sit between a full desktop and my iPad. I program on it, I write things on it, and I use it for Google Reader (which is a terrible experience on the iPad). So based on my experience and knowing that the Samsung Chromebook is likely to have better hardware, I would recommend it.</p></blockquote>
<p>If by some bizarre chance, anyone at Google or Samsung is reading this, and wants to send me a free Chromebook, happy to review it ;) Like a few of the people above, I have a phone running plain vanilla Android, that can serve as a tether for Internet access. Thanks all for the recommendations.</p>
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		<title>By: Kunal</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2012/11/05/chromebook-question/comment-page-1/#comment-433249</link>
		<dc:creator>Kunal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am surprised no ne has mentioned this yet, but there will be a whole bunch of win 8 tablets on the market shortly, with a full range of powerfulness. I would wait a few months if I were you. In fact I am in a similar boat, with ipad being no good for work, and am waiting to see if one of those suits me needs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised no ne has mentioned this yet, but there will be a whole bunch of win 8 tablets on the market shortly, with a full range of powerfulness. I would wait a few months if I were you. In fact I am in a similar boat, with ipad being no good for work, and am waiting to see if one of those suits me needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cian: I see now how my comment was insensitive. My apologies. 

What I should have said (because this is what I had in mind) is &quot;No one should use Flash.&quot; Flash puts unnecessary burdens on computers. There are other ways to produce Flash-like animations that do not place such burdens on the processor (e.g. HTML5). And as already mentioned Flash-compatibility is not available on all devices. That being said, using Flash places unnecessary burdens on computers and unnecessary limits on those looking to buy computers. 

I wish you&#039;re children&#039;s school had not committed to a Flash-based curriculum. It poses unnecessary obstacles for computers and for the parents who have to decide what computers to purchase. 

I am glad that the Chromebook will work out for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cian: I see now how my comment was insensitive. My apologies. </p>
<p>What I should have said (because this is what I had in mind) is &#8220;No one should use Flash.&#8221; Flash puts unnecessary burdens on computers. There are other ways to produce Flash-like animations that do not place such burdens on the processor (e.g. HTML5). And as already mentioned Flash-compatibility is not available on all devices. That being said, using Flash places unnecessary burdens on computers and unnecessary limits on those looking to buy computers. </p>
<p>I wish you&#8217;re children&#8217;s school had not committed to a Flash-based curriculum. It poses unnecessary obstacles for computers and for the parents who have to decide what computers to purchase. </p>
<p>I am glad that the Chromebook will work out for you.</p>
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		<title>By: adam.smith (was Sebastian(1))</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2012/11/05/chromebook-question/comment-page-1/#comment-433225</link>
		<dc:creator>adam.smith (was Sebastian(1))</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haven&#039;t used a chromebook but considered it, as I tend to like things google does. 
For me a big downside was that there is no reference manager (apart from - kindof - Refworks) that runs on Chromebook, particularly no Zotero (but also: no Mendeley, no Papers, and for the masochists, no Endnote, either).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t used a chromebook but considered it, as I tend to like things google does.<br />
For me a big downside was that there is no reference manager (apart from &#8211; kindof &#8211; Refworks) that runs on Chromebook, particularly no Zotero (but also: no Mendeley, no Papers, and for the masochists, no Endnote, either).</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Helton</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2012/11/05/chromebook-question/comment-page-1/#comment-433222</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Helton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have one of the original Chromebooks that Google sent out for free in early 2011.  Specs-wise, it&#039;s dated, and it struggles to run the latest Chrome OS.  That said, it is my go-to laptop and serves about 90% of the needs I have that sit between a full desktop and my iPad.  I program on it, I write things on it, and I use it for Google Reader (which is a terrible experience on the iPad).  So based on my experience and knowing that the Samsung Chromebook is likely to have better hardware, I would recommend it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one of the original Chromebooks that Google sent out for free in early 2011.  Specs-wise, it&#8217;s dated, and it struggles to run the latest Chrome OS.  That said, it is my go-to laptop and serves about 90% of the needs I have that sit between a full desktop and my iPad.  I program on it, I write things on it, and I use it for Google Reader (which is a terrible experience on the iPad).  So based on my experience and knowing that the Samsung Chromebook is likely to have better hardware, I would recommend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnus Ramage</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2012/11/05/chromebook-question/comment-page-1/#comment-433220</link>
		<dc:creator>Magnus Ramage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katherine @ 34: There was a good roundup of tablets for young children in PC Advisor recently - http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/tablets/3378548/group-test-best-tablet-for-children/   (I&#039;m assuming that really was a £ sign so you&#039;re in the UK - I don&#039;t know whether these products are available in all markets.)   Some of these sound quite convincing, though the better-reviewed ones are on non-standard platforms from the likes of VTech, so you&#039;re locked in to their apps.

An alternative would be to buy a cheap Android tablet (there are a few respectable no-name ones for less than £100, and people report names in online forums, though I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t know what they are). 

The Register has a good overview of 7&quot; tablets today - none are less than £100, but with care a couple at least can be bought for just above that (the RIM Playbook is £109 and doesn&#039;t use Android but does run some Android apps; the Acer A110 is £130 after cashback). http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/06/ten_ipad_mini_alternatives/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katherine @ 34: There was a good roundup of tablets for young children in PC Advisor recently &#8211; <a href="http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/tablets/3378548/group-test-best-tablet-for-children/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/tablets/3378548/group-test-best-tablet-for-children/</a>   (I&#8217;m assuming that really was a £ sign so you&#8217;re in the UK &#8211; I don&#8217;t know whether these products are available in all markets.)   Some of these sound quite convincing, though the better-reviewed ones are on non-standard platforms from the likes of VTech, so you&#8217;re locked in to their apps.</p>
<p>An alternative would be to buy a cheap Android tablet (there are a few respectable no-name ones for less than £100, and people report names in online forums, though I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t know what they are). </p>
<p>The Register has a good overview of 7&#8243; tablets today &#8211; none are less than £100, but with care a couple at least can be bought for just above that (the RIM Playbook is £109 and doesn&#8217;t use Android but does run some Android apps; the Acer A110 is £130 after cashback). <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/06/ten_ipad_mini_alternatives/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/06/ten_ipad_mini_alternatives/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2012/11/05/chromebook-question/comment-page-1/#comment-433198</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;medium-spec Android phones (my Galaxy II has it, and is positively ancient in Android terms) work as wireless hotspots, allowing any wi-fi device to use your cellphone data connection.&lt;/i&gt;

Was just going to say that.  My Google Nexus mini-tablet only has wi-fi, not 3G, but I can tether it to any 3G enabled phone and off I go.  Or just use one of the expanding number of free wi-fi services provided by local coffee shops, pubs or restaurants.

And if I may, since we&#039;re on a techie question thread - I&#039;m looking for a tablet-like device for my daughter, who is coming up 5.  I&#039;m not looking to spend very much, but it&#039;s birthday and Christmas combined, so I&#039;ve got, say, a £100 budget top wack.  Reviews seem to suggest that tablets designed for children are pretty good, but they look so chunky and stupid, and experience suggests that computer devices for children turn out to be under-performing and over-priced.  Any thoughts/recommendations/warnings?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>medium-spec Android phones (my Galaxy II has it, and is positively ancient in Android terms) work as wireless hotspots, allowing any wi-fi device to use your cellphone data connection.</i></p>
<p>Was just going to say that.  My Google Nexus mini-tablet only has wi-fi, not 3G, but I can tether it to any 3G enabled phone and off I go.  Or just use one of the expanding number of free wi-fi services provided by local coffee shops, pubs or restaurants.</p>
<p>And if I may, since we&#8217;re on a techie question thread &#8211; I&#8217;m looking for a tablet-like device for my daughter, who is coming up 5.  I&#8217;m not looking to spend very much, but it&#8217;s birthday and Christmas combined, so I&#8217;ve got, say, a £100 budget top wack.  Reviews seem to suggest that tablets designed for children are pretty good, but they look so chunky and stupid, and experience suggests that computer devices for children turn out to be under-performing and over-priced.  Any thoughts/recommendations/warnings?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My family owns a Chromebook and Chromebox, and they have become our primary computers for about 90% of our computing needs. We have dumped Windows entirely. We also have a tablet, but it&#039;s basically just for games or when both Chrome OS devices are in use. The reasons we switched are the super-fast boot, the maintenance free operation, and the stability of the OS. We have found ways to do everything we used to do on Windows with Chrome OS using web apps, including documents, spreadsheets, webmail, streaming Music and video, photo editing, video editing, etc.. Between the home WiFi connection and 3G capability of the Chromebook on Verizon, we&#039;re basically never offline so the limited offline capabilities are not an issue. I highly recommend them. Flash works fine by the way. If you spend a lot of time outside of a browser then maybe it&#039;s not for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My family owns a Chromebook and Chromebox, and they have become our primary computers for about 90% of our computing needs. We have dumped Windows entirely. We also have a tablet, but it&#8217;s basically just for games or when both Chrome OS devices are in use. The reasons we switched are the super-fast boot, the maintenance free operation, and the stability of the OS. We have found ways to do everything we used to do on Windows with Chrome OS using web apps, including documents, spreadsheets, webmail, streaming Music and video, photo editing, video editing, etc.. Between the home WiFi connection and 3G capability of the Chromebook on Verizon, we&#8217;re basically never offline so the limited offline capabilities are not an issue. I highly recommend them. Flash works fine by the way. If you spend a lot of time outside of a browser then maybe it&#8217;s not for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does Scrivener work on a chromebook? That would be the deal breaker for me as I use scrivener for my fiction writing and am in dire need of a new  computer, as my old one (a G4 mac mini) is so out of date I can no longer upgrade anything on it and it&#039;s slowly dying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Scrivener work on a chromebook? That would be the deal breaker for me as I use scrivener for my fiction writing and am in dire need of a new  computer, as my old one (a G4 mac mini) is so out of date I can no longer upgrade anything on it and it&#8217;s slowly dying.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Yablon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Yablon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 04:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been using the new Chromebook for a couple of days, and my recommendation is simple: dive in: http://answerguy.com/2012/11/05/google-chromebook-desktops-browser-business-change/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using the new Chromebook for a couple of days, and my recommendation is simple: dive in: <a href="http://answerguy.com/2012/11/05/google-chromebook-desktops-browser-business-change/" rel="nofollow">http://answerguy.com/2012/11/05/google-chromebook-desktops-browser-business-change/</a></p>
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		<title>By: john b</title>
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		<dc:creator>john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 04:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the &quot;useless without wi-fi&quot; point raised above: medium-spec Android phones (my Galaxy II has it, and is positively ancient in Android terms) work as wireless hotspots, allowing any wi-fi device to use your cellphone data connection. Massively helpful feature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the &#8220;useless without wi-fi&#8221; point raised above: medium-spec Android phones (my Galaxy II has it, and is positively ancient in Android terms) work as wireless hotspots, allowing any wi-fi device to use your cellphone data connection. Massively helpful feature.</p>
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