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	<title>Comments on: Where Does Mayor Bloomberg Stand on Academic Freedom?</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Brahm</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2013/02/04/where-does-mayor-bloomberg-stand-on-academic-freedom/comment-page-2/#comment-452539</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Brahm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where does Corey Robin stand?, http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2008/08/what-is-the-pos.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where does Corey Robin stand?, <a href="http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2008/08/what-is-the-pos.html" rel="nofollow">http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2008/08/what-is-the-pos.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Brahm</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2013/02/04/where-does-mayor-bloomberg-stand-on-academic-freedom/comment-page-2/#comment-452538</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Brahm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With Academic Freedom like this, who needs Racist Demagogy?, http://www.fathomjournal.org/policy-politics/alibi-antisemitism/
http://www.fathomjournal.org/reviews-culture/parting-ways/
Nice work, you must be very proud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Academic Freedom like this, who needs Racist Demagogy?, <a href="http://www.fathomjournal.org/policy-politics/alibi-antisemitism/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fathomjournal.org/policy-politics/alibi-antisemitism/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.fathomjournal.org/reviews-culture/parting-ways/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fathomjournal.org/reviews-culture/parting-ways/</a><br />
Nice work, you must be very proud.</p>
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		<title>By: SC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bloomberg is surprisingly, well, rational at times. (During the Park 51 mess, he even quoted from  the Flushing Remonstrance.) 

Someone should post the whole statement but Bloomberg also said: 

“If you want to promote views that you find abhorrent, this is exactly the way to do it. What the protesters have done is given a lot of attention to the very idea they keep saying they don’t want people to talk about!” 

 “They just don’t think before they open their mouths. The best way to popularize an idea or book or a movie is just to get someone to ban it . . .  Now they’ve created the very monster that they say they’re opposed to.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloomberg is surprisingly, well, rational at times. (During the Park 51 mess, he even quoted from  the Flushing Remonstrance.) </p>
<p>Someone should post the whole statement but Bloomberg also said: </p>
<p>“If you want to promote views that you find abhorrent, this is exactly the way to do it. What the protesters have done is given a lot of attention to the very idea they keep saying they don’t want people to talk about!” </p>
<p> “They just don’t think before they open their mouths. The best way to popularize an idea or book or a movie is just to get someone to ban it . . .  Now they’ve created the very monster that they say they’re opposed to.”</p>
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		<title>By: William Berry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2013/02/04/where-does-mayor-bloomberg-stand-on-academic-freedom/comment-page-2/#comment-452349</link>
		<dc:creator>William Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 18:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bloomberg statement:


&quot;Well look, I couldn’t disagree more violently with BDS as they call it, Boycott Divestment and Sanctions. As you know I’m a big supporter of Israel, as big a one as you can find in the city, but I could also not agree more strongly with an academic department’s right to sponsor a forum on any topic that they choose. I mean, if you want to go to a university where the government decides what kind of subjects are fit for discussion, I suggest you apply to a school in North Korea.

The last thing that we need is for members of our City Council or State Legislature to be micromanaging the kinds of programs that our public universities run, and base funding decisions on the political views of professors. I can’t think of anything that would be more destructive to a university and its students.

You know, the freedom to discuss ideas, including ideas that people find repugnant, lies really at the heart of the university system, and take that away and higher education in this country would certainly die.&quot;

I am Far from being a partisan of Mayor Bloomberg, but I have to say: &quot;Heeluva of a job, Mayor!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloomberg statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;Well look, I couldn’t disagree more violently with BDS as they call it, Boycott Divestment and Sanctions. As you know I’m a big supporter of Israel, as big a one as you can find in the city, but I could also not agree more strongly with an academic department’s right to sponsor a forum on any topic that they choose. I mean, if you want to go to a university where the government decides what kind of subjects are fit for discussion, I suggest you apply to a school in North Korea.</p>
<p>The last thing that we need is for members of our City Council or State Legislature to be micromanaging the kinds of programs that our public universities run, and base funding decisions on the political views of professors. I can’t think of anything that would be more destructive to a university and its students.</p>
<p>You know, the freedom to discuss ideas, including ideas that people find repugnant, lies really at the heart of the university system, and take that away and higher education in this country would certainly die.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am Far from being a partisan of Mayor Bloomberg, but I have to say: &#8220;Heeluva of a job, Mayor!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ponce</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 18:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@76

Israeli leaders still avoid visiting Britain because they fear they will be (rightly) arrested as war criminals.

Israel as a secular enterprise whas very admirable.

Israel as a religious crusade is..less than admirable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@76</p>
<p>Israeli leaders still avoid visiting Britain because they fear they will be (rightly) arrested as war criminals.</p>
<p>Israel as a secular enterprise whas very admirable.</p>
<p>Israel as a religious crusade is..less than admirable.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaveh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaveh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 18:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ponce @70, do they really? A lot of Europe wouldn&#039;t even vote to recognize Palestine as a state, which even if they did, that would certainly not amount to treating Israel as a pariah--whereas voting &#039;no&#039; on Palestinian statehood is actively supporting Israel &lt;i&gt;against&lt;/i&gt; a just cause.

Socialism @69, &quot;draining blood&quot;? (eyeroll)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ponce @70, do they really? A lot of Europe wouldn&#8217;t even vote to recognize Palestine as a state, which even if they did, that would certainly not amount to treating Israel as a pariah&#8211;whereas voting &#8216;no&#8217; on Palestinian statehood is actively supporting Israel <i>against</i> a just cause.</p>
<p>Socialism @69, &#8220;draining blood&#8221;? (eyeroll)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve LaBonne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve LaBonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 18:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good for Bloomberg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for Bloomberg.</p>
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		<title>By: ponce</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like Mayor Bloomberg stands for academic freedonm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Mayor Bloomberg stands for academic freedonm.</p>
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		<title>By: Socialism is a Mental Disorder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Socialism is a Mental Disorder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, didn&#039;t mean to offend with the name. I&#039;ll return with a less objectionable one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, didn&#8217;t mean to offend with the name. I&#8217;ll return with a less objectionable one.</p>
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		<title>By: William Berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Off-topic, I know, but thnx to CT for inspiring me to learn more about Judith Butler. I am a not-so-well-read but enthusiastic fan of post-structuralism, especially of the works of  Jaques Derrida and Roland Barthes. I have downloaded GENDER TROUBLE and started reading it. Exciting and fascinating material.

I have no strong position on BDS (some of my friends support BDS, some oppose it; I stand by my friends!) but I wholeheartedly support Brooklyn College, Corey Robin and colleagues, and the department in this matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic, I know, but thnx to CT for inspiring me to learn more about Judith Butler. I am a not-so-well-read but enthusiastic fan of post-structuralism, especially of the works of  Jaques Derrida and Roland Barthes. I have downloaded GENDER TROUBLE and started reading it. Exciting and fascinating material.</p>
<p>I have no strong position on BDS (some of my friends support BDS, some oppose it; I stand by my friends!) but I wholeheartedly support Brooklyn College, Corey Robin and colleagues, and the department in this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Moderators : are you really going to let someone post under the troll name &quot;Socialism is a Mental Disorder&quot;? (oddly, this objectionable name is attached to reasonable posts ...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Moderators : are you really going to let someone post under the troll name &#8220;Socialism is a Mental Disorder&#8221;? (oddly, this objectionable name is attached to reasonable posts &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: ponce</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@69

Considering every other country in the world treats Israel  like a pariah (except China, which treats it as a source of U.S. military secrets...), you really have to wonder how valuable it is for Israel to own the the weaker of the two U.S. political parties.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@69</p>
<p>Considering every other country in the world treats Israel  like a pariah (except China, which treats it as a source of U.S. military secrets&#8230;), you really have to wonder how valuable it is for Israel to own the the weaker of the two U.S. political parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Socialism is a Mental Disorder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Socialism is a Mental Disorder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 02:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bigger questions are why do we let the Zionists lobby our government (I&#039;m sure George Washington would have loved that.) And why do we treat Israel like it is a part of America. It was a mistake of epic proportions to allow the state to be created but how long to we have to drain blood and treasure to sustain that which is unsustainable? An belive me I am no friend of Islam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bigger questions are why do we let the Zionists lobby our government (I&#8217;m sure George Washington would have loved that.) And why do we treat Israel like it is a part of America. It was a mistake of epic proportions to allow the state to be created but how long to we have to drain blood and treasure to sustain that which is unsustainable? An belive me I am no friend of Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Socialism is a Mental Disorder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Socialism is a Mental Disorder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 02:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. This is very troubling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. This is very troubling.</p>
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		<title>By: purple</title>
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		<dc:creator>purple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 02:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The BDS is a bit rich coming from Americans. We should boycott ourselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BDS is a bit rich coming from Americans. We should boycott ourselves.</p>
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