“The design, by famed graphic designer Zeiger, is retro-futurist and unlike something with swastikas and Hitler, can easily be worn in public. The only people who are likely to recognize it will be other bros. And if someone does recognize it, you can be like ‘what the hell are you talking about?’ and say you just picked it up at Walmart because it looked cool. You will get a rush secretly wearing a Nazi t-shirt in public without having to suffer the consequences of wearing a Nazi t-shirt in public.”
How is this any different from the hundreds of thousands of people donning Hope/Change shirts after Obama came into office? Isn’t it just political speech commodified into a wearable expression of one’s political identity? I fail to see the problem, or the reason for posting this pic without context or explanation as to why it should concern/alarm us.
OMri. In this parallel thread (the alt-right bizarro thread is thru the ‘comments’ link on the home page), the foreground of the photo represents the tension between the status quo benevolence of the man with the roses (probably concealing a microphone…or not) and the authoritarian hostility of the neo-nazis. I confess I can’t explain the significance of the potentially undocumented immigrants in the background.
The dual thread is weird. Is that a technical glitch? It makes no sense as a deliberate statement. It wouldn’t have occurred to me to click on the photo until someone mentioned it in the other thread.
I didn’t see the stormer shirt until it was pointed out. I use an iPad and it is a small photo. I suspect most Americans wouldn’t know who they were, though if that is his family around him they would.
I checked this on my wife. She is liberal, despises Trump, watches the PBS Newshour. I blew the photo up and she couldn’t pick out what was weird, because she didn’t know what the Stormer was. I know because I spend way too much time reading political blogs.
“How is this any different from the hundreds of thousands of people donning Hope/Change shirts after Obama came into office?”
You’re comparing a message that’s designed to be positive and universal with a Daily Stormer T-shirt, a direct reference to the “values” of the Nazi movement? This isn’t like “ok, the other guys won, so when I see someone wearing their apparel I get a slight sting in my heart, but let’s just shake hands and try again next time”.
she didn’t know what the Stormer was. I know because I spend way too much time reading political blogs.
Or history, history would work. I didn’t know there was an entity calling itself the “Daily Stormer” – I still haven’t checked there is one – but it’s pretty hard to see how it could be anything other than a reference to Der Stürmer.
I was unfamiliar with “Daily Stormer” before seeing this picture, but I easily guessed that it was a nazi thing because it’s called “Daily Stormer,” fercryinoutloud.
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engels 07.22.17 at 7:01 pm
Haven’t been over there since the election and I don’t regret it one bit
KH 07.22.17 at 8:39 pm
“The design, by famed graphic designer Zeiger, is retro-futurist and unlike something with swastikas and Hitler, can easily be worn in public. The only people who are likely to recognize it will be other bros. And if someone does recognize it, you can be like ‘what the hell are you talking about?’ and say you just picked it up at Walmart because it looked cool. You will get a rush secretly wearing a Nazi t-shirt in public without having to suffer the consequences of wearing a Nazi t-shirt in public.”
nastywoman 07.22.17 at 8:59 pm
There is still California?
Dr. Hilarius 07.22.17 at 9:14 pm
Self refutation of white supremacy.
Byeates 07.23.17 at 12:51 am
How is this any different from the hundreds of thousands of people donning Hope/Change shirts after Obama came into office? Isn’t it just political speech commodified into a wearable expression of one’s political identity? I fail to see the problem, or the reason for posting this pic without context or explanation as to why it should concern/alarm us.
OMri 07.23.17 at 2:09 am
Byeates, the focus is the daily stormer shirt. It’s crypto-nazi
e julius drivingstorm 07.23.17 at 7:44 am
OMri. In this parallel thread (the alt-right bizarro thread is thru the ‘comments’ link on the home page), the foreground of the photo represents the tension between the status quo benevolence of the man with the roses (probably concealing a microphone…or not) and the authoritarian hostility of the neo-nazis. I confess I can’t explain the significance of the potentially undocumented immigrants in the background.
harry b 07.23.17 at 12:57 pm
Its neo, not crypto. I don’t think there’s any pretence about what they are.
Donald Johnson 07.23.17 at 1:40 pm
The dual thread is weird. Is that a technical glitch? It makes no sense as a deliberate statement. It wouldn’t have occurred to me to click on the photo until someone mentioned it in the other thread.
I didn’t see the stormer shirt until it was pointed out. I use an iPad and it is a small photo. I suspect most Americans wouldn’t know who they were, though if that is his family around him they would.
qzt359 07.23.17 at 2:43 pm
“I fail to see the problem. . . ”
One failure among many, alas.
Donald Johnson 07.23.17 at 3:54 pm
I checked this on my wife. She is liberal, despises Trump, watches the PBS Newshour. I blew the photo up and she couldn’t pick out what was weird, because she didn’t know what the Stormer was. I know because I spend way too much time reading political blogs.
Chris "merian" W. 07.23.17 at 6:52 pm
“How is this any different from the hundreds of thousands of people donning Hope/Change shirts after Obama came into office?”
You’re comparing a message that’s designed to be positive and universal with a Daily Stormer T-shirt, a direct reference to the “values” of the Nazi movement? This isn’t like “ok, the other guys won, so when I see someone wearing their apparel I get a slight sting in my heart, but let’s just shake hands and try again next time”.
The content does matter, not just the form.
Warren Terra 07.23.17 at 9:30 pm
Or history, history would work. I didn’t know there was an entity calling itself the “Daily Stormer” – I still haven’t checked there is one – but it’s pretty hard to see how it could be anything other than a reference to Der Stürmer.
GeoX 07.23.17 at 10:54 pm
I was unfamiliar with “Daily Stormer” before seeing this picture, but I easily guessed that it was a nazi thing because it’s called “Daily Stormer,” fercryinoutloud.
J-D 07.24.17 at 10:55 am
Byeates
How is hate different from love? Hate disturbs me; love doesn’t.