July 15, 2004

Quickly Around the Blogs

Posted by Brian
  • It wasn’t intended as a follow-up to our earlier discussion on private vs public health-care performance, but nevertheless in that context it was very helpful for Chris Shiel to link to this paper (PDF) on how well, or as it turns out badly, the US does on health-care outcomes.
  • I missed this when it was posted a week ago, but if you’re still interested in this stuff Geoff Nunberg has a very good dissection of that study by Groseclose and Milyo purporting to show liberal media bias.
  • And Ben Bradley wants reader input to help choose a murder victim. Purely for academic purposes.
Posted on July 15, 2004 07:25 PM UTC
Comments

That paper actually says very little about health care outcomes. It says that the US does poorly on infant mortality and life expectancy. It does point out potential confounding factors for life expectancy (violence, tobacco-related illnesses, coronary heart disease due to obesity, etc). It doesn’t point out possible confounding factors for infant mortality (i.e. that the US does better if you include perinatal deaths). It also doesn’t point out that Americans claim to be much more satisfied with their own health care than with the overall health care system, and only report the latter number.

It does, however, point out that the US is ranked number one in responsiveness of health care.

Posted by Jake McGuire · July 15, 2004 10:25 PM

That paper actually says very little about health care outcomes.

Mothers dying in childbirth; babies dying of preventable diseases; middle-aged people dying of cancers that could have been cured if caught earlier; older people rotting away from the gangrene of undertreated diabetes; all of those deaths add up to the lost lives that make up the USA’s miserable mortality statistics.
After all what does death have to do with health care outcomes?

www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5036a2.htm

Posted by Peggy · July 15, 2004 11:54 PM

Perhaps if the humans in question in Ben Bradley’s dilemma were female, it would be easier: less was invested in the kid, and the old folks are dispensible. Let’s keep the breeder for the sake of propagating the human race.

Clearly we need to keep at least one young man around, but the survival of the species in the face of millenia of warfare has proven that we don’t need all that many.

Posted by bad Jim · July 16, 2004 09:26 AM

Bad Jim, you completely missed the point of the exercise. It’s not about which death is worse for society. It’s about which death is worse for the person being killed.

Posted by Jeremy Pierce · July 16, 2004 05:41 PM

Life expectancy and national expenditures on health care:
http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/scpo/exp-percap.gif
http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/scpo/pct-gdp.gif

Posted by rc · July 17, 2004 09:10 PM
Followups

This discussion has been closed. Thanks to everyone who contributed.