Norman Geras is running another of his music-related polls, this one on readers’ nominations for their top 15 jazz albums.
The list I sent Norm isn’t ordered, since I refuse to give myself that big a headache; nor can I reasonably say that it what’s on it constitutes ‘the greatest etc.’, since I’ve no doubt the list would almost certainly be rather different if my CD collection were larger. (As a corollary, it’ll be different in sixth months time - like John Holbo, I’m apt to spend a ridiculously hefty proportion of any hike in my income on music.)
So, I offer this list in the spirit that these are fifteen albums that I really, really like, and maybe you would too:
If you’ve a list in mind, do tell Norm about it by emailing him here. Your deadline is midnight Sunday GMT - my bad for not mentioning it earlier.
Update: Kieran correctly points out in the comments that I probably meant to recommend the work of Miles Davis, rather than that of the all-too-plausible titan of ‘the Treorchy pitster scene’, Miles Davies. I’ve now changed the list to make this clear.
My apologies to the ghosts of both gentlemen for any crisis of identity this confusion may have provoked.
I can’t find any way to contact the dude at his site, so here goes:
Charlie Christian: Greatest Hits Compilation (he never released a record during his short life).
Thelonius Monk: Brilliant Corners (or, as Geras said, something else of his).
Max Roach / Clifford Brown
John Coltrane: Africa/Brass and Impressions (with “India”) (2)
Ornette Coleman: This is Our Music and Change of the Century (2)
Miles Davis: Bitches Brew, Agharta (2)
John Handy: Spanish Lady
Charlie Mingus: Oh Yeah
Jan Garbarek: Dis, Places (2)
Marion Brown: Geechee Recollections, Sweet Earth Flying (2)
As you can see, my jazz tastes are pretty tightly clustered. And I easily could have left off Charlie Christian and Clifford Brown, producing an even tighter cluster.
Zizka, the contact adress can be found in the ‘House’ part of his side bar.
It’s about time that Miles Davies, that little known Welsh horn player, got his due. The cultural influence of the Treorchy pitster scene has been unjustifiably overshadowed by the Boyceans. Granted, lyric masterpieces such as ‘9-3 are assured their place in literary history, but neglect of Davies’ recordings is still criminal.
Mr. Butler said the book proposal had erroneously dropped a few words from a quotation attributed to Mr. Schwarzenegger. According to Mr. Butler’s reading of the transcript, Mr. Schwarzenegger followed his comments about Hitler’s public speaking by adding, “But I didn’t admire him for what he did with it.” He did not say, “I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for what he did with it,” as he was quoted in the book proposal and in early editions of The Times.
Mr. Butler said he could not explain the inaccuracy. “I am amazed that something like that escaped me.”
Mr. Butler also read other sentences of the transcript, spoken in Mr. Schwarzenegger’s then-imperfect English, that related to the subject. “Yes, in Germany they used power and authority but it was used in the wrong way,” Mr. Schwarzenegger said, according to Mr. Butler. “But it was misused on the power. First, it started having, I mean, getting Germany out of the great recession and having everybody jobs and so on and then it was just misused. And they said, let’s take this country, and so on.” Mr. Schwarzenegger concluded: “That’s bad.”
but the lofty ethics bores of American journalism apparently have no problem with opening up their front page for anonymous one-sided accusations of ancient improper advances. In that case, did I mention the time Gray Davis grabbed me by the crotch and whispered in my ear: “Have you ever had a man tax you up the wazoo?” Or, if the issue is the violent grabbing of anonymous women, how about this? “He just went into one of his rants of, `F—- the f—-ing f—-, f—-, f—-!’ He grabbed me by the shoulders and shook me until my teeth rattled. I was so stunned I said, `Good God, Gray! Think what you are doing to me!’ And he just could not stop.” That’s a former staffer of Davis, as reported by Jill Stewart in New Times LA in 1997.
Oh dear. I’ve sprained my imagination very nastily trying to work out what Miles would have sounded like had he been Welsh - my apologies to anyone who has been similarly injured as a consequence of my mistake on this point.
I’ve posted an update fixing it.
When I saw this list, I thought - no “Time Out”? Then, over at normblog I see “There are some as turn up their noses at Brubeck.”
It this a common opinion for serious jazz afficionados? Can someone explain why to me?
msw
I’ve no beef with Brubeck - he’s not a personal fave (hence absence from my list), but I’ve got a compilation CD of his that I listen to semi-regularly. It’s good stuff.
The obvious reason why a certain type of jazzer might disdain DB is just that he was very, very popular in the mainstream and made a lot of money.
Jazz is a lifestyle accoutrement for some people, and I suppose it’s hard to sustain your goateed hipster self-conception when your mum keeps borrowing bits of your record collection.
“Often derided as a white, middle-class formalist with a rather buttoned-down image and an unhealthy obsession with classical parallels and clever-clever time signatures…”
This is from Cook and Morton’s Penguin Guide to Jazz on CD, where it is also disputed.
Sunday, October 05, 2003
MODO GETS ONE THING RIGHT: “Feminism died in 1998 when Hillary allowed henchlings and Democrats to demonize Monica as an unbalanced stalker, and when Gloria Steinem defended Mr. Clinton against Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones by saying he had merely made clumsy passes, then accepted rejection, so there was no sexual harassment involved. As to his dallying with an emotionally immature 21-year-old, Ms. Steinem noted, ‘Welcome sexual behavior is about as relevant to sexual harassment as borrowing a car is to stealing one.’ Surely what’s good for the Comeback Kid is good for the Terminator.” - from her column today. Sorry, Democratic-party-hacks-pretending-to-be-feminists. (That means you, Pollitt, Steinem and Streisand.) One grope and you’re ok. Them’s your rules. I stand by the distinctions I made yesterday.
A@b.com and SG@fg.com, thanks for sharing!
I’d also like to read another of zizka’s conspiracy theory addled essays, if this has turned into “Requests Hour”
I have new stuff up at my site. Actually, mostly restatements of the same thing I’ve been saying all along. For me, the neo-Confederates, Armageddon Christians, and other Grover Norquist types never lose their fascination.
Arses, I’ve completely buggered up the continuity haven’t I?
I take it that Daniel is replying to a (now deleted) troll barfing that Zizka should, ahem, jolly well go away and write another one of his excellent political essays.
Like Daniel, I concur with the last bit.
Since I’ve missed the deadline here’s some from my list (although I would be perfectly happy if it was simply any 15 by Ellington):
Billie Holiday - Lady in Satin
Duke Ellington - Black Brown and Beige
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
Louis Armstrong - anything by the Hot Five (I don’t actually own one of these which is a huge gap I must remedy)
Bill Evans - Conversations with myself
Oscar Peterson - Night Train
Ellington/Mingus/Roach - Money Jungle
Chris McGregor - Brotherhood of Breath
Ellington - Ellington at Newport 1946
All these Miles fans, and no votes for “Birth of the Cool”….
Coach — Ah Um was the last one I cut to make 15. I now realize that I broke the rules by not listing 15 different artists. But actually, my list isn’t the 15 greatest jazz albums anyway. It’s basically just my favorites.
Ian—
If available in your territory, and possibly even if not, get the JSP box of the “complete hot fives and sevens.” 4 CDs—two disks of the hot fives and sevens with Ory and Dodds, one of the hot five with Hines, one of big bands—superb remastering, and it cost me $25 with tax included. Thank heaven for the expiration of copyright. (Not just because it’s cheap. Columbia did a poor job of remastering these records until their most recent issue, according to Cook and Morton—and I’m sure they wouldn’t have improved if not for the JSP competition.)
So:
Louis Armstrong “Compete Hot Fives and Sevens”
Jelly Roll Morton “Vols. One through Five” (the Victor recordings—also on JSP)
Duke Ellington “The Blanton-Webster Band” (currently released as “Never No Lament”)
Charles Mingus “Black Saint and the Sinner Lady” (or “Ah Um”)
Ornette Coleman “Beauty Is a Rare Thing”
Jimmy Giuffre 3 “1961”
George Lewis “Homage to Charles Parker”
Arthur Blythe “Lenox Avenue Breakdown”
Cecil Taylor “Air Above Mountains (buildings within)”
Derek Bailey “Aida”
Sonny Sharrock “Guitar”
Henry Threadgill “Where’s Your Cup”
Peter Brotzmann “Chicago Octet/Tentet”
John Zorn “The Big Gundown”
Miles Davis “Kind of Blue” (I was sorely tempted to put in “Big Fun,” just to counter what Norman says about “Decoy” as the first good electric Miles album, but KoB is really the best)
If we’re going for “Best,” there should be some Charlie Parker on there, but I went for something more like personal faves.
Whoops, that was Tom with “Decoy.” I mean, taking fewer drugs was supposed to be a good thing here?
(Actually, jazz is unlike rock in that most musicians seem to do better about cleaning up, but I’ll take 70s Miles over 80s Miles any day. De gustibus.)
Most jazz musicians do better work after cleaning up. Don’t post on an empty stomach, weiner.
Mingus Ah Um. Essential.
Thelonious Monk, Brilliant Corners.
Ellington, Mingus, Roach, Money Jungle.
The Quintet, Jazz at Massey Hall.
And my personal eccentric choice: Duke Ellington, New Orleans Suite.
Some other worthy albums:
And his mother called him Bill- ellington
Max Roach in 3/4 time
Rasshan Roland Kirk—voluntered slavery
Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto— best of two worlds (or something like that)
mingus Tiajuana moods. (there’s a lot of really good ones, Blues and Roots for instance).
Water babies—miles davis (not a “greatest” but something really, really interesting, a wierd offshoot of the sixties music.)
Seeing how many of my faves have already been covered, and not feeling like being obscure for the sake of obscurity at the moment, I’ll just add a list of jazz lists I recently compiled while in work avoidance mode. The obscure stuff occasionally shows up on my soapbox during those moments I’m not grinding my axe. Mebbe I’ll try a real list tonight as the grog relaxes me.
À Gauche
Jeremy Alder
Amaravati
Anggarrgoon
Audhumlan Conspiracy
H.E. Baber
Philip Blosser
Paul Broderick
Matt Brown
Diana Buccafurni
Brandon Butler
Keith Burgess-Jackson
Certain Doubts
David Chalmers
Noam Chomsky
The Conservative Philosopher
Desert Landscapes
Denis Dutton
David Efird
Karl Elliott
David Estlund
Experimental Philosophy
Fake Barn County
Kai von Fintel
Russell Arben Fox
Garden of Forking Paths
Roger Gathman
Michael Green
Scott Hagaman
Helen Habermann
David Hildebrand
John Holbo
Christopher Grau
Jonathan Ichikawa
Tom Irish
Michelle Jenkins
Adam Kotsko
Barry Lam
Language Hat
Language Log
Christian Lee
Brian Leiter
Stephen Lenhart
Clayton Littlejohn
Roderick T. Long
Joshua Macy
Mad Grad
Jonathan Martin
Matthew McGrattan
Marc Moffett
Geoffrey Nunberg
Orange Philosophy
Philosophy Carnival
Philosophy, et cetera
Philosophy of Art
Douglas Portmore
Philosophy from the 617 (moribund)
Jeremy Pierce
Punishment Theory
Geoff Pynn
Timothy Quigley (moribund?)
Conor Roddy
Sappho's Breathing
Anders Schoubye
Wolfgang Schwartz
Scribo
Michael Sevel
Tom Stoneham (moribund)
Adam Swenson
Peter Suber
Eddie Thomas
Joe Ulatowski
Bruce Umbaugh
What is the name ...
Matt Weiner
Will Wilkinson
Jessica Wilson
Young Hegelian
Richard Zach
Psychology
Donyell Coleman
Deborah Frisch
Milt Rosenberg
Tom Stafford
Law
Ann Althouse
Stephen Bainbridge
Jack Balkin
Douglass A. Berman
Francesca Bignami
BlunkettWatch
Jack Bogdanski
Paul L. Caron
Conglomerate
Jeff Cooper
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