Peter Levine has a nice essay on the contemporary school reform strategies being pursued at the Federal level in the US. Like me he is more well disposed to many of the levers being used than most of the left; as he says:
It’s important to think about incentives; that’s one of the main themes of modern social science. Asking schools to educate better (or differently) without changing their incentives won’t work.
But he points out what seems right once it is pointed out that many reformers evince a startling lack of interest in what is actually going on in schools:
Politicians and policymakers now show an extraordinary lack of interest in the “what” and “who” questions. They seem to agree with the economist Gary Becker about the futility of looking inside schools: “What survives in a competitive environment is not perfect evidence, but it is much better evidence on what is effective than attempts to evaluate the internal structure of organizations. This is true whether the competition applies to steel, education, or even the market for ideas.”
He goes on to criticise the reformers for, in effect, neglecting the collateral effects of their reforms. The incentives are changed, and the outputs that we measure (test scores) are not the only important, or even the most important, outputs of education. Many of the important outputs can only be assessed very roughly, and even to do it roughyl you have to look into the schools themselves (one of several good reasons why the UK has long used an inspection regime).
I’m not going to defend the reformers, because I think Peter is right; but I will note that most of the conservative opponents of reform (those who oppose the current battery of reform ideas without offering serious and thought-out alternatives), although they talk about what goes on in schools, do not often offer suggestions for how the democratic public that is supposed to deliberate about schools is going to find out anything about what goes on in them.
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MaryLou 04.12.06 at 12:18 pm
For fairly extensive discussion of ‘what DOES go on in schools and what works for severely disadvantaged children’ take a look at Bob Somerby’s blog, Daily Howler. Also visit his incomparable daily archives. The Daily Howler
dipnut 04.12.06 at 12:22 pm
Introducing economic competition in education is a serious alternative. As for thought-out, how much thinking do you need to do, to see the downside of a government-enforced monopoly?
We don’t need official “inspectors” to tell us what goes on in public schools. Anyone who cares can find out. The news is full enough of horror stories. Then there are blogs:
dipnut 04.12.06 at 12:24 pm
Hmmm. Apparently I messed up the markup for the blockquote above.
harry b 04.12.06 at 12:37 pm
dipnut,
you misunderstood my use of the term “conservative”. Peter and I both include various forms of privatisation and using market forces among what I call the “current battery of reform ideas”, as is quite clear in his post. (I’ve written a book about choice, myself, so seriously do I take the idea). But markets and choice are the paradigm case of reforms that treat schools as black boxes. To some extent (as I should have said above) that is unavoidable, because the information is so hard to get.
Horror-story anecdotes are helpful if you are trying to eliminate particularly bad practises in individual schools. But they don’t constitute the kind of information that a responsible policymaker concerned with improving the quality and efficiency of the education system needs.
Steve LaBonne 04.12.06 at 12:43 pm
If you “check Joanne Jacobs” you would do well to bring a considerable quantity of salt with you; she does post a fair quanity of useful, thought-provoking stuff, but she has a pretty clear political agenda, and politicization- on all sides- is IMHO the #1 enemy of clear thinking about the very real problems of education in the US. And dipnut- do remember, “data” is not the plural of “anecdote”.
Locutor 04.12.06 at 3:26 pm
In my state, Gov. Goodhair Perry has decreed that all school districts must spend 65% of their budget on “expenses directly related to classroom instruction” (whatever that will turn out to mean), despite the fact that there are no studies that show any value to this particular number.
A few people have looked into what other states spend, on average, and have found that there is no correlation between this number and school quality. Some states spend more, some less, and some (most) have better schools, some worse, but it has nothing to do with the percentage of budget spent on classroom instruction.
It’s stuff like this that makes me think that most conservatives aren’t interested in reforming education, they’re just interested in the appearance of doing so.
Tracy W 04.12.06 at 5:18 pm
The difficulty with looking within schools is that in my experience you need a hell of a lot of experience to understand an industry/system/sector from within. And by that I mean any industry, not just education.
At one point the NZ Government had a draft law on electronic communications and signatures that incidentally literallly would have defined me visiting this website (or any website) as engaging in an authorised communication. It wasn’t caused by an evil desire of the NZ Government to undermine the web, it was caused by the drafters having a mental model of the Internet that was something like a TV with a really really big number of channels, and not knowing that when someone visits a website their computer is copying some files from a server to itself.
And any specialised people I’ve been around have funny stories about the silly things outsiders suggest, not knowing some subtle detail (like that the time of high tide changes each day) that makes their suggestions useless.
It is the nature of the modern world that there is way too much to learn in one lifetime. Considering that most people need to work for a living and have households to run and many people have children to raise, and so forth, democracy is limited in that us voters are going to be ignorant of about 99% of what is going on in our world. Demoractic oversight has many limitations. Yes, focussing on outputs has problems too, but I am not convinced that these will be more than trying to understand all the myriad of interactions on a part-tiem basis.
dipnut 04.12.06 at 7:12 pm
…you misunderstood my use of the term “conservativeâ€.
Yes, and you also caught me out not reading the linked item. In my defense, I suggest “defenders of the status quo” might be just as correct, and much less subject to misinterpretation.
“data†is not the plural of “anecdoteâ€.
Good point. It’s easy to forget that, when the anecdotes are so many and all fit the same pattern. Anyway, such data as we have looks as bad as the anecdotes.
Perhaps I don’t understand what this post is about. There is all the evidence anyone could want, of malfeasance and incompetence in public education. Suppose we had more information, better organized. Then we could squabble over the motives of the data-gatherers, and argue over the way things should be, and cast about in vain for someone with the authority and merit to do anything about it.
Might as well trust the invisible hand.
Peter Levine 04.12.06 at 7:35 pm
For what it’s worth, the real distinction I wanted to draw was not between liberals and conservatives (defined any way you like), but between technocratic and participatory approaches to education.
Raising teachers’ salaries, equalizing school spending, mandating tests that have financial consequences, requiring that x percent of education funds go to “classroom instruction,” introducing vouchers–these proposals run the gamut from left to right, but all are ways of manipulating incentives.
I happen to think they have some merit. I’m a bit of a technocrat myself. But the extreme opposite–just for the sake of considering it–is the following ideal. …
Members of a community educate the community’s kids. They don’t see education simply as a responsibility of the schools, but they do take responsibility for the schools in their area. Many adults (and some youth) play a direct role in education: serving on parents’ associations or school boards, teaching Sunday school, volunteering in a classroom or a youth center, writing an education column for the newspaper, working at the local college. There is a lot of deliberation and debate about the content and methods of education across the community. The purpose of it all is seen to be, not merely getting kids through a test, but also developing interests, traits of character, civic skills, and the human “flourishing” that Harry describes eloquently in On Education.
I readily admit that this is an idealized picture of education without technocrats. But it contains at least a germ of truth, and it’s endangered by both liberal and conservative approaches to education that concern themselves exclusively with incentives.
Josh 04.12.06 at 10:23 pm
This may be obvious, but it seems there are at least two key variables to the education issue that are interrelated. Of course, quality education requires quality educators. But it also requires students who are willing to learn. Ideally, good teachers can help to facilitate the latter variable. Communities, however, have to be part of the solution.
With regard to teachers, I’m strongly against much of the, as I perceive it, anti-teacher rhetoric that comes from some Republicans these days. But, the fact remains that there are many, many inadequate teachers out there. Democrats can’t get around that fact. Neither can teachers (and many don’t want to, either).
But teachers are in a bind. How do the good teachers assist in weeding-out the sub-par teachers (or at least minimizing their damaging effects) without inadvertently assisting a blatantly political attempt to crush the teacher’s union? After all, good teachers today are underpaid, if anything. And, despite economists soothing claims to the contrary, market forces don’t act in such a way as to ensure that the good teachers would be remunerated near as well as they should be – and maybe not even as well as they are today – if current protections were eliminated.
Teaching shouldn’t be volunteer work, and when some excellent teachers get paid twenty or thirty thousand a year, it practically is. However, for the lousy teachers out there, it’s not difficult to argue that they’re overpaid. Nonetheless, the lousy teachers can easily call to their defense the fact that they’ve met the “standards†for a teacher. This is correct, considering the low standards they must meet. (Anyone who takes a cursory glance at the paltry number of courses in history, political science, and sociology a “social studies†education student must pass to obtain his or her teaching certificate can attest to the fact that it’s hardly a rigorous program. And, worse, it’s not necessarily atypical. )
I would argue that increasing standards for teachers – particularly those of middle-school and high-school teachers, levels at which knowledge of the subject matter becomes just as important as, if not more important than, pedagogy – is a must. (Perhaps requiring an M.A. in the teacher’s primary subject?) But, as a “market†incentive, there must be increased pay to complement the increased standards. Current teachers who are already excellent will fit-in to any new system, regardless of whether they have advanced degrees or not. As for lousy teachers, there could either be a messy (and probably ill-advised) round of mass firings. More likely, they will simply age-out of the system, retire, and become relics of a bygone era.
When it comes to students, community involvement in schooling does seem to be part of the solution. There has to be movement on both sides, between the schools and the community, to decrease the antagonism between teachers and parents that often pervades many schools today. Of course, no professional wants to be told how to do his or her job, but community involvement in schools doesn’t have to resort to a perpetual tug-of-war.
Some of the suggestions Peter and Harry outline get at the cultural issues that must be viewed as part of the larger problem. Community participation would signify to students that the community values education. After all, education has to be “sold” to (admittedly immature/maturing) students. And, at least part of that sale must be based on the now-unfashionable understanding that education must be viewed as more than just a way to get a job.
Currently, any argument based on the equation “X-amount of education equals Y-quality job†is dubious at best. And students, particularly as the reach high school, know that. If they can realistically state that they will never “use†calculus, history, or whatever later in life, which passes as a sound argument in our current, career-oriented vision of education, who’s to stop them from simply dismissing whole subjects as worthless? But once education becomes more than just a means to get a job and is instead viewed as part of a larger development process – a transition in attitude that cannot be made without the assistance of parents and communities – those “arguments†will no longer have any substance.
I don’t mean to suggest that students will simply accept that education is more than a means to get a job and will then pick-up copies of “The American Political Tradition” or “An Introduction to Political Philosophy†en masse, but if students can’t be sold on the fact that education is a necessary component of becoming a well-informed citizen, we’re doomed.
P-Brane 04.13.06 at 8:52 am
Edward Dirkswager wrote a book with interesting perspectives on possibilities for teachers taking greater control (away from, for example, the teachers’ unions) to revitalize public education.
harry b 04.13.06 at 9:20 am
dipnut, there are days when I agree with your final comment, but I reject it ultimately, for all sorts of reasons such as concern about the distribution of educational opportunities, worries about the inevitable market imperfections, and the pragmatic judgment that full-blown markets are not politically feasible. My book on school choice (not the one Peter is discussing) is, in part, a defence of regulated markets as part of an egalitarian strategy in education. Yes, I shouldn’t really use “conservative” in that misleading way, but I do so to tease my friends on the left in ed schools and teacher unions who endorse the basic structure of an education system which is both highly inefficient (I’m sure you agree) and deeply unjust (you may not agree but they should) for their unwilliningess to entertain serious reforms (including choice and market based reforms).
I’m lso not so sure how bad schools are. Most people are pretty satisfied with the schools their children attend (probably, I’d agree, complacently). We do incredibly badly by poor kids, but so does everyone; if you have large swathes of children living in poverty and concentrate them into schools together, you need ideas about how to teach them; no-one in history has cracked that. If you doubt that, go and volunteer in some elementary classrooms in high poverty schools, and after a few months get the teacher to agree to let you run the class for a couple of hours.
I completely endorse what Peter says, and although there are left/right issues about values and details in reform, both the technocratic concerns and their dangers should be considered carefully.
I’m tempted to discourage tracy w from reading my book on school choice which, I’m pretty sure, reveals all sorts of errors like those you mention in your interesting comment. I hope I’ve learned enough in the past 7 years to avoid the most egregious such errors.
dipnut 04.13.06 at 2:30 pm
Harry,
I appreciate your humor re “conservative”.
Just so we’re clear, I’m about as un-egalitarian (in economic terms) as can be. I don’t care about “economic justice” or “equality”, whether of opportunity or outcome.
What bothers me is that so many are illiterate, easily duped, dependent, lacking in civic virtue, and prone to criminality. That is the truly deplorable inequity: that some (not necessarily poor) are brought up unfit to be citizens of a free nation. They lack the basic ingredients for happiness and goodness. Their world is a prison, too often literally. If that’s what you mean by “deeply unjust”, you have my agreement*.
So, when a conservative like me looks at public education, there’s this deep sense of outrage and betrayal. Philosophically, from its underpinnings in the work of John Dewey to its latest fads and arguments, public education seems calculated to make moral and civilizational cretins of its students, besides failing to give them basic skills and knowledge for getting on in the world. Then again, there is the institutional corruption, and the staggering cost.
The reaction is to want to punish the people responsible; not gather more data, or debate how to regulate the market. Just open the market and take the students (and money) away from the failed systems.
* Of course there is correlation between economic circumstances and the tale of woe I describe. But a poor person can be happy and good; and a well-off, well-“educated” person can be a vicious, miserable parasite. I happen to think the economic aspect is secondary.
harry b 04.14.06 at 7:52 am
dipnut,
I guessed you weren’t a strong egalitarian (can’t think how!). My view of justice is (as you’d guess) much more expansive than yours, but it includes the concern you have, and I think your concern is probably the most urgent justice matter on the table in education.
I understand the impulse, and as I say I sometimes share it. We might disagree about who to blame (or perhaps about how to share out the blame), and if I thought pure privatisation were feasible I’m still worried that it would end up rewarding many of the people who are to blame, and not helping those who suffer most. But I don’t think it is feasible, even in the quite long term, in the US or the UK (my 2 countries), just as I don’t think a purely egalitarian “state” system is feasible. So all policy reform is bound to be messy. Because the ed school world (in which I’m an outsider, but which I have much more to do with than the policy world) is relatively hostile to choice, markets, and incentives, I spend a fair amount of time countering that hostility. Hence my teasing nomenclature. Peter’s post is a (right-headed) warning not to think exclusively about choice, markets and incentives.
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