Sometimes people that know and like each other, and that would never employ snark with each other, can still talk entirely past each other online. Carlo Ludovico Cordasco (Sheffield) wrote a fruitful and prudent sub-stack post (here) on the ‘longstanding debate on AI and deskilling.’ As he notes it was prompted by my Kvetching about a 2 June announcement by The University of Chicago’s President that it has a contract with Anthropic to give all of its students, and all of its staff and faculty, full access to Claude Enterprise.
Now, I viewed that announcement by Paul Alivisatos (the University President) the way I interpret many of that university’s public announcements during the last two decades: as a cynical, branding ploy aiming to keep the university in the eyes of influencers who may alert full tuition paying parents that they should send their kids to the UofC. In my view, in its public communication, the university has stopped trying to be the academy for would-be-academics and those closely adjacent to it.
Anyway, when I first participated in howling about Alivisatos’ announcement, the fate of skill was far from my mind. I viewed the UofC as vice-signaling its path away from all that is noble and beautiful about higher education. (I explain my position on that near the end of this post.) But I was interpreted as a techno-luddite about the role of AI. I ruminated a bit on Carlo’s essay. In response, I focus more on governance than de-skilling.
I was never an undergraduate at The UofC. But on my second day of graduate school there, I remember walking through the undergraduate library (yes, there was an undergrad library!) surrounded by kids who clearly had pulled an all-nighter mostly with Homer, but a smattering of other thick books—some were asleep with the books on the desks, while others were engaged in intense discussions with each other. The most popular T-Shirt in my time there, was ‘Where Fun Goes to Die’ (and closely followed ‘Hell Freezes Over.’) The place had an ethos centered on its undergraduate core that involved reading, discussion, and writing and that permeated it. (Graduate students often taught in The Core so it wasn’t just for the kidz.)
While I was contemplating a response to Carlo’s essay, I decided to got back to a familiar passage in the Phaedrus. I read it with fresh eyes.[1] I quote the full paragraph:
Naucratis was an open commercial port on the Nile that was the unique point of entry into Egypt. By Socrates’ time had, somewhat unusually, been populated, as Herodotus attests, by Greeks for several generations. So, it is fascinating that Socrates makes the God of the Underworld, and patron of scribes, Thoth/Theuth, dwell there in that cosmopolitan port. One is made to wonder whether this God didn’t pick up the use of letters from some travelers (say Phoenicians), or invented it to mediate or judge a commercial dispute.
As an aside, I would be amazed if Socrates (or Plato) were not alluding to Herodotus in this narrative. For, according to Herodotus, Cadmus brought the Phoenician alphabet to Greece and founded Boeotian Thebes. And the fact that there are two Thebes means one must presuppose a wider world to keep them apart. That is to be distinguished, of course, from entities with multiple names.
Now, while it is tempting to rush ahead to the part of the story where deskilling is discussed, I want to pause for a second at the division of labor between Theuth and Thamus/Ammon. Theuth invents, but Ammon is the regulator who decides whether an invention can be circulated and to what extent. Wisely, these ancient Egyptians don’t let the inventor himself decide on issues of public safety and public utility. This part of the myth is usually skipped because governance is nowhere near as sexy as debating the possible deskilling effects of a new technology. Carlo’s piece nicely illustrates this, all the hard social and political challenges get solved magically in it.2
What is most notable about Ammon in his dealing with Theuth is that he focuses on two features of an invention before he gives permission to circulate it: first, its practical use. And here he is quite clearly guided by the inventor’s views. And, second, the potential harms (or, let’s be cheeky, inductive risks) involved. And notably, when it comes to foreseeing harms Ammon’s own views are more decisive than any inventors not even a God. And the reason for this is explicitly spelled out: would be inventors tend to misperceive the true nature of their inventions, primarily seeing the benefits only. I return to this below.
Obviously, Socrates is simplifying the division of labor a bit by using Ammon. Most kings may (if they know their Hobbes) wish to overawe all the citizens in a godlike fashion, but they will not be in the same epistemically advantageous decision situation as (let’s stipulate) Ammon. So, how they will judge the possible harms of new technology will be, in fact, a rather challenging governance question. And it is by no means obvious that one can foresee the harms antecedently, or that one will evaluate them with the same measures after the fact. If the technology transforms the users’ or community’s identity this becomes a serious issue. Below I suggest that Socrates points toward this possibility.
My point here is not that Socrates presents us with the right informal governance model. But importantly, he presents such a model that will allow us to think about the various considerations involved. In fact, lurking here is a more important point: the existence of art of governance is itself the effect of the invention of the very writing-technology that we are discussing here. For writing makes bureaucracy possible. (It is helpful for my interpretation that Theuth is the God of scribes.) And this raises new problems, as Plato’s Socrates alerts us.
Conveniently enough (for my new debate with Carlo), the harms Ammon is alert to in the invention of writing do involve, alongside the acquisition of a new skill (writing), some de-skilling, including the art of memory. Now, in light of the contemporary debate, one might have thought that Ammon would have made a simple cost-benefit analysis to the individual or to the population of the gaining of one skill (writing) and the loss of another (worse memory). Is writing more efficient than relying on memory? Could we create performance standards? (etc.)
But what’s interesting about Ammon’s stance is that he diagnoses an externality, actually two externalities, that are especially important to a King-Ruler. And the externality has everything to do, I think, with the fact that writing is the tool of bureaucracy. As a close reader of Plato, Rousseau (recall here), reminds us (in the Third Discourse) bureaucracies are invented when the domain to be managed cannot be surveilled by single person or family. A bureaucracy is a division of labor that is spatially and temporarily extended, and relies on proper record-keeping to manage socially complex affairs. It is introduced because a ruler cannot surveil his/her domain all at once.
But this bureaucratic managing also introduces a useful fiction: that the recorded ‘data’ convey the facts, and that the person reading the report on the data understands what they signify (up the bureaucratic chain of command). Writing makes a form of impersonal acquaintance possible. But the risk that Ammon (correctly) identifies is that the bureaucrats and those they serve (governors like Ammon himself) will “read many things without instruction and will therefore seem to know many things, when they are for the most part ignorant.” The reader of the report will end up with knowledge of the reported reality, but not (without further instruction) with its connection to the underlying facts. And if they forget this distinction, as the written world takes on its own reality, they will seem wise when they may not be so. How to manage a bureaucracy that systematically generates this kind of vulnerability, is a central problem in the art of governance. When things remain on the rails, this challenge is usually invisible to most. But when it goes off the rails — public infrastructure is not repaired, corruption goes unpunished, etc. — it is often too late for minor fixes (not the least in circumstances of emergency that Carlo acknowledges).
The written word, when used as a technology of governance, inevitably creates legibility (of the population and society) and simultaneously all kinds of new opacities. As I have noted before (recall here), this is a design feature of modern LLMs, whose internal architecture and the process by way which they convey content, remains largely opaque to end-users (especially in real time). This is especially important because the error rates of LLMs remains non-trivial. This output externality is only visible if you look, expert enough, and care to notice.
I could stop here. But I promised a second externality as noted by Ammon. And this is a more important social externality: the users of a new technology will feel more confident. And, let’s stipulate, their confidence is not misplaced. Like Carlo’s ‘off-loaders’ they get more important things done in less time. Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, it will encourage boasting and self-aggrandizement. And, even if this self-satisfaction were fully merited, as Ammon recognizes this is a dynamic that predictably generates social instability. Not the least because off-loading boasters refuse to be bothered by the real challenges new technology introduces. The ethos of a polity may change for the worse with new technology—and it doesn’t take much imagination to discern that Ammon is worried about new idols and new modes. This may be inevitable, and some communities are willing to pay the price.
Now, Carlo treats the university as a site of skill-transference, and in which Claude is one tool of many. And this is no surprise, because if you return to the press release of Alivisatos’ statement, you will see that the key word in it is ‘tool’ which is repeated over and over. Tools are used. And that’s how President Alivisatos sells his message.
But he doesn’t convey at all that he has evaluated the risks (a word he does not use which is notable for a modern executive) and externalities a new tool predictably generates for the ‘community’ (his word) that he has been charged to lead. All he notes are the “astonishing and inspiring ways” of the new tool. He sounds more like enthusiastic Theuth than prudent Ammon. Hence my complaint that he is vice-signaling.
In fairness, to Alivisatos (who was an undergraduate at the UofC): when you read the full press release, he is setting up a quite elaborate governance structure for new AI. So, it is quite possible that he has assimilated the first lesson I wished to derive from Socrates’ myth. But I don’t think a fair reading of his text suggests he is signaling concern over or apt care about what might be lost in the process (which is what motivated my original lament).
Even so, I used the language of governance throughout this post, because I was most struck by his message to his students:
To our students: Many of you already are reflecting on how a skeptical, ethical, and ambitious approach to AI applies to your education. Your faculty and instructors are developing practices in the classroom within a philosophical framework to support you in opening and sharpening your mind during your journey here. That framework will prepare you well to meet the opportunities of a changing world. You can understand more about how your faculty are thinking about helping you to learn by reading about a recent series of workshops sponsored by the Center for Teaching and Learning. Policies vary by course, and you are required to follow them closely; but the sum across your full curriculum will give you diverse learning experiences with and without AI assistance. Instructors at all levels are navigating a fast-evolving landscape, and the University has a duty of care to ensure that the education offered to you is responsive to these technological developments by teaching you how to think with machines, how to think without them, and how to think about them.
There are a lot of action words in this paragraph (e.g., reflecting, developing, reading, navigating, and teaching not to least how to think) and a few technocratic terms (e.g., framework, opportunities, policies, diverse learning experiences, landscape)), including a few commands (required). What’s notably absent in this message are reading, interpretation, and (most notably) discussion. That’s not just a matter of vocabulary. Something has gone off the rails here, and by this I don’t mean the total absence of reference to the world of books and intellectual culture in his message.
Back in the day (and I amplified with some twists), Agnes Callard argued that “A university is a place devoted to the problem of how to make serious use of free time.” It would be wrong to suggest that the proper use of intellectual tools has no place in this vision of the academy. But as Callard notes such a university presupposes what she calls ‘inquisitive leadership.’ President Alivisatos’ rhetoric is very far from it. He leads not by teaching and learning here, but by cheerleading and commanding.3 And this is why I called it, vice-signaling.
- An earlier version of this post was first published at D&I.
[1] After I drafted this post, I also asked Google’s AI, “if applied LLMs what would be the main implication of the myth of ammon and theuth in phaedrus?” It answered, “If applied to Large Language Models (LLMs), the main implication of the myth of Ammon and Theuth is the warning that outsourcing human thought to AI will replace genuine, internalized understanding with a superficial “illusion of wisdom.” I think this misses something important I wish to convey. (When I subsequently asked about governance lessons, it articulated something much closer to the issues articulated in my post.)
[2] Here’s Carlo’s description of the process, which I quote in full. And I ask you to look for who decides the hard political and financial/tax questions whose answers his description in the first person plural presupposes:
[3] It’s possible that Callard, who teaches at The University of chicago, supports Alivisatos’ AI policy.
{ 14 comments }
Mike Furlan 06.17.26 at 2:21 pm
It seems to me we are at this verse in the song:
The man that invented the steam drill,
He figured he was mighty high and fine,
But John Henry sunk the steel down fourteen feet
While the steam drill only made nine, Lord, Lord,
The steam drill only made nine.
My memory of the University of Chicago, 50 years ago, things may have changed, was that those undergraduates pulling all nighters were mainly concerned with getting grades that would get them into a good grad school, business school or law school. Some cared about how the hole was drilled but they were a minority. This moment is an opportunity to support that minority.
J, not that one 06.17.26 at 4:41 pm
They seem to think we don’t need undergraduates to know how the hole was drilled, either because the hole has already been drilled and they think there’s nothing that still needs doing even to maintain the hole, or because somewhere else the universe will magically supply people who do know but for some reason that’s not a problem for us to worry about here.
I’m wondering whether my daughter would reconsider applying to Chicago if she heard about this. I’m guessing it’ll be hard for kids her age to avoid it.
marcel proust 06.17.26 at 4:46 pm
Hi, <a href="https://crookedtimber.org/2026/06/17/on-the-governance-of-llms-and-the-university-of-chicago/#comment-875599"Mike. Class of ’78 here: sounds like we overlapped in college. During my time a UC, I only once tried to pull an all-nighter because that one time I learned that by no later than 2AM, there is no way that I can think or write coherently./1 However, I knew a number of people who, as 1st or 2nd years, pulled them without (explicit?) thought of grades or later careers; rather, there was an exam the next day/2 or a paper was due and the instructor took a very dim view of late assignments. There was some grade grubbing then, especially among the pre-meds (pre-business was not much of a thing among those I knew: I believe this was true generally of the elite colleges in the first decade coming out of the ’60s and before the “Greed is Good” era), but it was pretty limited back then. Most of the students I knew took the ethos of the college pretty seriously, at least for the first 2-3 years.
I have been back on campus fewer than a half dozen times since the mid-1980s, and never for more than a couple of hours, so I have very little idea about the current situation.
1) I tried the same experiment with similar results for a couple of different types of speed that were supposed to be helpful study aides.
2) Why the hell you’d want to take an exam on insufficient sleep, I never understood. I was confident that in the trade-off between sleep and studying, there was an optimum position that left me reasonably well rested.
Jim Harrison 06.18.26 at 1:23 am
We’re treating the advent of AI as some drastic revolution, but somebody from the 60’s would wonder why the sudden concern. AI started arriving quite a while ago. Google and Internet were always mental prostheses. We didn’t all turn into cyborgs last Tuesday. My get-off-my-lawn take goes back even further to the time when the educational mantra became don’t fill the kids had up with facts, teach ’em to think. Which turned out to be an exercise in making bricks without straw. It’s not just you can’t chew a non existent cud; but if you haven’t thought a lot of things through, you won’t understand what you can so easily look up. “I’m not worried about the test. Wikipedia will tell me about the synthetic a priori the night before!”
The AI mavins understand the problem. Their models can already code very well, but where will the industry find people who understand the programs if the kids never learn how to code themselves?
D. S. Battistoli 06.18.26 at 4:32 am
Now, this is tangential to your core argument, but it is exactly this sort of incidental speculation that so often precedes Africans and Africanists smiting their foreheads: the “oh, here’s something in Africa—let’s hypothesize about the other part of the world which must be its ultimate origin” trope.
So: there is some debate among paleographers as to whether Egyptian hieroglyphs, in their existence, were inspired by cuneiform, which developed earlier and independently. Even if this were the case, hieroglyphs clearly have a distinct formal origin, depicting as they do African animals and plants, among other things.
As to Phoenicians, their writing system is derivative of Egyptian hieroglyphics, not the other way around. It’s impossible to mix this one up, because several centuries separate their development.
Now, why would Socrates have located this myth as taking place in Naucratis, despite the fact that it entails a conversation between a king of Egyptian Thebes (way upriver) and Thoth, the god of the underworld, which, from the Egyptian Book of the Dead we can see was conceptualized by Egyptians themselves as being yet farther upriver? Because, in this period when “colony” meant “settlement,” Naucratis was the place where Greek settlers and travellers like Socrates’ probable informants learned about the content of Egypt systems of thought, action, and governance—certainly not the place where Egyptians learned to write.
Eric Schliesser 06.18.26 at 4:44 am
Hi D.S. Battistoli,
I try to stay in my lane. I don’t have any views on the actual origin of alphabets. In wider context of the dialogue it’s pretty clear that Socrates is inventing a just-so story.
D. S. Battistoli 06.18.26 at 5:58 am
Eric Schliesser @6,
Thanks for your reply, and sorry if you took me to be lane-policing; it was more a matter of saying that, in our current writing-facilitated culture, when faced with the choice between speculating and looking things up, we might choose the latter. Or, in the words of Phaedrus‘ Socrates, as he introduces this passage: “I can tell something I have heard of the ancients; but whether it is true, they only know. But if we ourselves should find it out, should we care any longer for human opinions?”
Aren’t we fortunate to live in a world where it is possible for us, both of whom are farther from Athens and Thebes than they are from one another, to be able, if we are not already familiar with them, to look up the myths associated with Amun and Thoth, and the relationship between the Egyptian and Phoenician writing systems, rather than guessing in the dark and attributing cosmological claims to the pure invention of Socrates?
J-D 06.18.26 at 6:11 am
If so, would that be something a bit like the way that Sequoyah was inspired by awareness of the concept of writing but otherwise made little use of existing writing systems in creating the Cherokee syllabary, and/or a bit like the way that Hangul was developed as a novel system more useful for writing Korean than the Chinese-derived characters previously employed?
both sides do it 06.18.26 at 6:27 am
‘05-‘09 here. My cohort was one of the final ones that had a competing plurality that were there to learn (vs go to law school or a big 3 / big 4 firm). You could track the falloff of the learners occurring with each successive class, we knew it was happening at the time.
Quick note about brainrot while using LLMs: it is worse than using the internet. One study had a control group work problems on their own, vs experimental groups having internet access and another using LLMs. The LLM group not only had worse recall and sparser description about the problems, but when they followed up with a second wave of problems and restricted all groups to pen and paper, the LLM cohort did worst.
If you use an LLM workflow solidly for a day or two in a row it’s definitely palpable. The struggle is real, as we said in 2007 between Ellis and Harper.
D. S. Battistoli 06.18.26 at 11:44 am
<a href =”https://crookedtimber.org/2026/06/17/on-the-governance-of-llms-and-the-university-of-chicago/#comment-875624>J-D @8
To my understanding, perhaps something like it, with the caveat that there is even less documentation of the Egyptian process than there is for the origins of Hangul.
There is also an out-of-the-south theory, which has the advantage of fitting with Thoth as the tutelary god of writing, but it’s my understanding, subject to revision, that at present, both the “inspired” and the “uninspired” camps of Egyptian scriptural genesis operate largely in the space of learned supposition, neither having quite enough evidence on-side to win the field.
Incidentally, again caveatting, this time that I do not read Greek and am not a Platonist, pace Eric S., internal evidence from the text of Phaedrus is consistent either with the idea that Socrates made up his myth, or that he heard it from elders and repeats it. In the dialogue, his younger interlocutors are unfamiliar with the story and accuse him of having made it up, at which point he shifts to a Hellenic cosmological example familiar to them. Given that there is extratextual evidence that Thoth was the tutelary god of writing, that Amun was a paramount god tutelary to Thebes-based political dynasties, and that Naucratis was a locus of Greek-Egyptian cultural exchange, the probability of Socratic invention rather than collation or improvisation-only-of-details is rather low. And the probability is really very low that Plato’s Socrates chose Theban Amun not because of Amun’s pre-existing cosmological position in the Egyptian pantheon (which would have been familiar to both S. & P.), but out of some desire to produce a sub rosa reference to or pun upon Herodotus’ story of Phoenicians’ introduction of their writing technology to the Hellenic world.
David Mitchell 06.18.26 at 1:30 pm
Thanks. An interesting post. There are a lot of folks commenting on the issues of AI and the financial mania behind it. Cory Doctorow and Patrick Boyle are my two favorites. One question I have about the Univercity of Chicago (UoC) and the AI they are pushing. Is t due to a process of their own initiative or is it in response to a donor or potential donor? If it is donor pushed is this an example of circular financing where one part pays another to buy it’s product? This seems to be very prevalent in the AI industry. It would also be an example of the super and hyper rich going to great efforts to shape elite universities.
engels 06.18.26 at 1:50 pm
AI started arriving quite a while ago.
With hindsight, I’m starting to think the whole point of the internet was to scam us all out of our data in order to feed these things.
PatinIowa 06.18.26 at 9:26 pm
I’ll just leave this here, saying that it’s been terrifying me for the last 59 years, since I read it the first time.
https://galacticjourney.org/stories/I_Have_No_Mouth_and_I_Must_Scream_-_Harlan_Ellison.pdf
Mike Furlan 06.19.26 at 12:37 am
I didn’t mean to pick on The University of Chicago, it just happened to be my relevant personal experience. I suspect that there are many, if not most students would choose to grab what ever tool is available to help them drill through their mountain of coursework rather than do it by “hand”.
And I wanted to agree with the idea that we might use this moment as motivation to clear and ease the path toward all that is noble and beautiful about higher education. Rather than a accept a method that, at least currently is much more shallow than what the best minds can achieve.
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