Teething Report II

Posted by Kieran Healy

Teething continues apace. Right now the main issue is with formatting. More below the fold.

Update: Now we have comment previewing and validation. We aim to please. Seems to be working OK.

I’m using TextControl to manage the text markup. Many CT posts and comments use the Textile markup syntax—specifically Textile 2—, so we want to continue that. TextControl allows you to set the default markup for your blog (between Textile, Textile2, and others) and also choose which markup to use in particular posts. Unfortunately this latter functionality is currently broken with WordPress 1.5.

More importantly, though, some difficult people write their posts using TypePad’s editor, or some other wordprocessor that automatically fancifies text. This botches Textile 2’s parsing of these posts, leading to garbage output when dashes, apostrophes or quotation marks are encountered. Line-breaks within blockquote enviroments aren’t right in these circumstances, either. Switching the default markup from Textile 2 to its little brother Textile fixes most of these problems. But it comes at the price (there’s always a price, isn’t there?) of removing support for footnotes. Pointy-headed academics that we mostly are, this is a problem. I’m not sure whether there’s an easy way around it, either. It’d be nice if footnotes could be “backwarded” into Textile (which would have the benefit of speeding things up, too, because Textile 2 is much bigger than Textile), but I doubt this an option. Or maybe there’s a way to search-and-replace the offending characters (quotes and apostrophes, mostly) out of the database. Absent a solution, we’re currently using Textile for markup, so no nice footnotes, alas.

posted on Saturday, March 12th, 2005 at 1:02 pm
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  1. Why no longer a link to Juan Cole and Daily Kos ?
    And who is this unlink, DC Girl >

    Posted by Jay Conner · March 12th, 2005 at 3:51 pm
  2. Juan Cole and DC Media links fixed. Not sure we ever did have a link to Kos, though.

    Posted by Kieran Healy · March 12th, 2005 at 4:18 pm
  3. Are the two links to DeLong meant to make up to us academics for getting kicked off the front page? We’re not so easily appeased. Well, yes we are.

    I think he’s moved to delong.typepad.com (with the current address mirroring or something for a while). That’s the useful bit of information I have for ye.

  4. Yes, Daily Kos was linked. Used it frequently, especially prior to the US election.

    Posted by P.T. · March 12th, 2005 at 8:23 pm
  5. Timothy Burke has been exiled from the lumber room, as well.

    Posted by julian · March 12th, 2005 at 10:23 pm
  6. And Jeanne d’Arc. Boo

    Posted by chris · March 13th, 2005 at 7:01 am
  7. Fixed.

    Posted by Kieran Healy · March 13th, 2005 at 9:25 am
  8. Here’s a diff of the present Lumber Room against one from nearly a year ago. Presumably most changes were intentional, but maybe there are still a few that slipped through the cracks.

    Roger Ailes
    Ampersand
    -ArchPundit
    +Another False Alarm
    Atrios
    -Jack Balkin
    -BoingBoing
    +Backword Dave
    Body and Soul
    -Michael Brooke
    -Peter Briffa
    Timothy Burke
    -Avedon Carol
    -Josh Cherniss
    -Iain Coleman
    -Davos Newbies
    +Juan Cole
    Daily Kos
    -The Decembrist
    Brad DeLong
    +DC Media Girl
    Charles Dodgson
    Daniel Drezner
    Kevin Drum
    Electrolite
    +Fafblog
    A Fistful of Euros
    Ed Felten
    Gary Farber
    Russell Arben Fox
    +Bill Gardner
    Harry’s Place
    The Head Heeb
    Jim Henley
    -John Holbo/Belle Waring
    -Invisible Adjunct
    Steven Johnson
    Mark Kleiman
    +Left2Right
    Larry Lessig
    Libertarian Samizdata
    Chris Lightfoot
    +Long Story, Short Pier
    +Majikthise
    Making Light
    Joshua Marshall
    MaxSpeak
    -Iain Murray
    -Charles Murtaugh
    +Scott McLemee
    +Ms. Musings
    Nathan Newman
    +Maud Newton
    Natalie Solent
    OxBlog
    -PolitiX
    Pandagon
    Pedantry
    -Philosophy from the 617
    -Political Aims
    The Poor Man
    +Public Health Press
    +Respectful of Otters
    Road to Surfdom
    +Sappho’s Breathing
    Alan Schussman
    +Shot by Both Sides
    6th International
    Slugger O’Toole
    Lawrence Solum
    +Suburban Guerilla
    Tacitus
    +Talk Left
    The Talking Dog
    Tapped
    Two Blowhards
    +Matthew Turner
    Unlearned Hand
    +War and Piece
    The Virtual Stoa
    Volokh Conspiracy
    -Wonkette
    Matthew Yglesias

    </obsessive-compulsive>

    Posted by KCinDC · March 13th, 2005 at 9:48 am
  9. Hmm, the PRE tag worked in the preview. I can understand why it could be dangerous to allow it, but if it’s not going to work on “Submit”, it shouldn’t work on “Preview”.
    Also, any chance of bringing back “Remember me” on the comment form?

    Posted by KCinDC · March 13th, 2005 at 9:52 am
  10. Argh, apparently the preview is often different from the submitted format. The paragraph break in the previous one and the angle brackets in the one before were fine in preview.

    Posted by KCinDC · March 13th, 2005 at 9:54 am
  11. KC —thanks for the diff. Most of those were intentional but a few not. I’ll fix any errors.
    The preview and validation is a new plugin so I’m still figuring it out. It doesn’t seem to have a ‘remember me’ option. Maybe I can put one in, if I can find the relevant function in the default comment form. (Was there one?)

    Posted by Kieran Healy · March 13th, 2005 at 10:54 am
  12. And I see you’re right about the paragraph breaks.

    Posted by Kieran Healy · March 13th, 2005 at 10:55 am
  13. It used to be that your blog was almost unique in that the display of your front page would be punctuated by a blanking out of groups of a few lines of text, with the blanking coming and going as the page was scrolled up and down. Sometimes the lines would first display and then be blanked as something finally loaded in that vertical position on one of the margin columns.
    This seems to have largely disappeared, except that the blanking still is sometimes found in the continuation or comments sections.
    FWIW,
    Don

    Posted by Don Lloyd · March 13th, 2005 at 11:11 am
  14. Is there any chance of going back to the old link list, rather than having to specifically click on the list? That was something I found very convenient and nice w/ the old site, and while it’s not much harder, it’s less convenient on the new version.

    Posted by Matt · March 13th, 2005 at 6:27 pm
  15. The trouble with the link list was that it was getting to be gigantic. There are so many academic bloggers that we couldn’t track the new ones, couldn’t regularly check to see how many of the existing ones were defunct, and were stuck with hugely long list on one side of the page.

    Posted by Kieran Healy · March 13th, 2005 at 7:15 pm
  16. The post title font color could be subdued.

    Posted by Ajax Bucky · March 14th, 2005 at 12:57 am
  17. Speaking of the academic link list, I (Danny Loss) appear twice on the history list. Much as I appreciate the bonus traffic that must come with two links, I’m guessing you want to fix it.

  18. Aw man, I kind of liked that new color scheme you had going for 30 or 40 minutes there.

    Posted by Chris · March 14th, 2005 at 4:27 pm
  19. Thanks Chris. Turns out nobody else did :(
    I’m also aware of the paragraph-break problem, which is afflicting Jim Henley’s site too.

    Posted by Kieran Healy · March 14th, 2005 at 9:38 pm
  20. The Wordpress migration is really coming along. Congratulations.

    You might want to try these changes to your comment page:

    A
    immediately after the closing label tag of “Your Comment” will keep those words nested above the comments box no matter how wide the browser window gets.

    To adjust the size and font of the labels, add this line to your CSS (season to taste):

    form {font: 85%; "Some Font-Family Or Other";}

    Here’s a decent resource if you’re still interested in tweaking the colors on your site. I see you’ve toned down the red headings a bit. I wish I’d seen your experiment. Maybe a reprise on April 1?

    Posted by peter ramus · March 15th, 2005 at 9:56 am
  21. The auto-fancification of text makes it a royal pain to cut-n-paste into old-school text applications such as unix terminals.
    I know, I should join the 21st century.