Kirstjen Nielsen

by Henry Farrell on April 8, 2019

Kirstjen Nielsen has resigned from her position as Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. While there, she was responsible for overseeing some of the most egregious policies, including caging children and separating them from their parents, a policy which she <a href=”https://www.merkley.senate.gov/news/press-releases/merkley-asks-fbi-to-open-perjury-investigation-into-secretary-nielsen”>appears to have lied about</a>. Perhaps there are real extenuating circumstances that will emerge, or perhaps she will publicly repent for what she was involved in. Both seem unlikely.

Jesse Eisinger at ProPublica thinks that Nielsen might quickly find a berth at a think-tank, university center or similar institution.

<blockquote class=”twitter-tweet” data-lang=”en”><p lang=”en” dir=”ltr”>Where Neilsen lands will be a big test of DC elite circles. I expect her to pay zero professional cost for ripping children from their parents, embracing hate &amp; racism, and habitually lying.</p>&mdash; Jesse Eisinger (@eisingerj) <a href=”https://twitter.com/eisingerj/status/1115037335920500736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw”>April 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Different people have different limits. Nielsen is some distance beyond mine. If she gets a position at a think-tank, university center or similar, I will not participate on any panel that involves anyone from that think-tank, center or other institution. I will not participate in any event where the institution plays an organizing role, nor will I associate myself in any way that might reasonably be seen as providing active support for that institution. If you feel similarly, I invite you to sign your name below (it may take some time for your signature to get past our commenting system) or, if you have a bigger or different platform, to take this idea and roll it out yourself.

[I should note: this is not a collective post by Crooked Timber, although I would guess that many/most/perhaps all others here will agree].

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Sean McElwee 04.08.19 at 2:45 am

Signed

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Data for Progress 04.08.19 at 2:47 am

Signed.

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Nate Christiansen 04.08.19 at 2:50 am

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Siegel Scott 04.08.19 at 2:53 am

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Christopher Smith 04.08.19 at 3:04 am

Signed.

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TA Hartman 04.08.19 at 3:09 am

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Leo Casey 04.08.19 at 3:12 am

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Chetan Murthy 04.08.19 at 3:17 am

Signed.

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William Elison 04.08.19 at 3:32 am

Signed.

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Seth Sanders 04.08.19 at 3:52 am

Signed–this is very important.

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Philip Osborne 04.08.19 at 4:30 am

Signed

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Donald Zinman 04.08.19 at 5:32 am

Signed

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Olivier Fouquet 04.08.19 at 6:32 am

Signed, of course. Making politicians pay the cost of their policies is the foundation on which representative democracy is built.

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Rich Dohoda 04.08.19 at 7:05 am

“Different people have different limits. Nielsen is some distance beyond mine. If she gets a position at a think-tank, university center or similar, I will not participate on any panel that involves anyone from that think-tank, center or other institution. I will not participate in any event where the institution plays an organizing role, nor will I associate myself in any way that might reasonably be seen as providing active support for that institution.”
Good luck with that unless you’re already independently wealthy and equally “connected”.

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John Quiggin 04.08.19 at 7:46 am

A long way from DC, but glad to sign.

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Chris Bertram 04.08.19 at 7:52 am

Signed

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Dave Katz 04.08.19 at 8:14 am

Signed.

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John Quiggin 04.08.19 at 8:35 am

Rich @14 After years of blogging, the world-weary tone and absolute silliness of this comment are depressingly familiar.

Could you spell out what kind of person you have in mind, who would be in a position to receive invitations from thinktanks and similar institutions, and at the same time be in such straits that turning down these invitations would threaten them with destitution?

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Gareth Wilson 04.08.19 at 9:15 am

Her actual behaviour aside, does just being a member of the Cabinet for 16 months give you any particular insight worth hiring to a think tank or university center? David Petraeus getting all those non-military academic posts was bad enough.

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Julie Novkov 04.08.19 at 10:34 am

People in positions of significant power with respect to policy making or policy advocacy should be accountable for what they do with that power. In this imperfect world, I’ll do my small part by choosing not to associate with those who use their power for appallingly inhumane and criminal purposes.

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Matt Weiner 04.08.19 at 11:26 am

Signed.

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Joshua W. Burton 04.08.19 at 12:01 pm

Signed.

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Tim O'Keefe 04.08.19 at 12:17 pm

Signed.

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Griffin Boyce 04.08.19 at 12:51 pm

Signed.

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Cory Doctorow 04.08.19 at 1:37 pm

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Chris Ross 04.08.19 at 1:54 pm

Signed.

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M Julian Sanchez 04.08.19 at 1:56 pm

You have my sword.

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Daragh McDowell 04.08.19 at 2:04 pm

It’s vastly unlikely that I’ll be in the position but – signed.

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Scott Albert Bradley 04.08.19 at 2:07 pm

Not that I expect to ever find myself in demand for such things, but just in case.

Nielsen can rot in hell.

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Nicholas Fortugno 04.08.19 at 2:15 pm

Signed

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Patrick Martin 04.08.19 at 2:19 pm

Accountability

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David Kumhyr 04.08.19 at 2:29 pm

Who would want to hear from a toady who violates human rights?

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Tana Bronk 04.08.19 at 2:37 pm

Boycott Kirstjen Nielsen Forever!

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Anarcissie 04.08.19 at 2:42 pm

John Quiggin 04.08.19 at 8:35 am @ 18 —
People who are working in the brain of the beast will find that there is a lot of evil around to refuse to cooperate with, if they look. It will not be far away. And no one should imagine that serious, effective non-cooperation will be without economic or political consequences. Hence one must consider what one can do, what one can get away with, which depends in part on one’s position on the political food chain. The tenured professor may be able to boycott; maybe the janitor cannot. There may be other things one can do — subversion, sabotage, exposure come easily to mind. Or if one is not able to go to the front, support those who can.

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Greg Cunningham 04.08.19 at 2:47 pm

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Morgan Grether 04.08.19 at 2:58 pm

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Tim Holt 04.08.19 at 3:10 pm

Signed.

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dilbert dogbert 04.08.19 at 3:35 pm

The open and welcoming arms of F’k(Fox) News awaits her. To be announced next week.

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armando aguilar 04.08.19 at 3:35 pm

signed

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Scott Edelman 04.08.19 at 3:35 pm

Unlikely I’ll ever be asked, but … ditto.

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Zachary Bos 04.08.19 at 3:38 pm

Signed.

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Peter Wong 04.08.19 at 3:41 pm

Kirstjen Nielsen is a vile enabler of the Trump Administration’s policy of racist cruelty. Her presence soils the reputation and integrity of any institution that would employ her.

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Barry 04.08.19 at 3:44 pm

Gareth Wilson 04.08.19 at 9:15 am
“Her actual behaviour aside, does just being a member of the Cabinet for 16 months give you any particular insight worth hiring to a think tank or university center? David Petraeus getting all those non-military academic posts was bad enough.”

I think that in most cases it’s more a matter or networking to more powerful people, and laundering bribes. She’s just a tool, and her only qualification was being totally devoid of humanity.

However, the powers that be know that rewarding such people keeps the pipeline stocked with other such people, for future hiring.

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Jonathon Rosenthal 04.08.19 at 3:44 pm

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Andrew Levin 04.08.19 at 3:45 pm

Signed.

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Johnny Dwork 04.08.19 at 3:52 pm

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Joe Walsh (English teacher) 04.08.19 at 3:57 pm

I agree.

I hope to see her before a human rights tribunal some day.

Please find a way of keeping people informed as to her future employment.

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Hannah Penfield 04.08.19 at 3:58 pm

Signed (although it’s unlikely I’ll ever be in that position).

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Henk E. Goemans 04.08.19 at 3:58 pm

Signed.

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William Grewe-Mullins 04.08.19 at 4:01 pm

One of the most terrifying aspects of this is that she was fired because her horrifyingly cruel, inhuman, immoral acts, were simply NOT horrifyingly cruel, inhuman or immoral ENOUGH for the Trump administration. They thought she was being “too nice”.
Consider me signed.

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Austin Sims 04.08.19 at 4:14 pm

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Damon Styer 04.08.19 at 4:18 pm

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Gabriel Egan 04.08.19 at 4:20 pm

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Tyler Long 04.08.19 at 4:25 pm

Signed.

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Chris Zymaris 04.08.19 at 4:26 pm

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Wayne losey 04.08.19 at 4:34 pm

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Reed Savory 04.08.19 at 4:38 pm

Those who violate global human rights should never be allowed to profit, nor organizations that knowingly employ such people.

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Maxwell Mudd 04.08.19 at 4:47 pm

Signed.

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Kevin Carson 04.08.19 at 4:55 pm

Signed.

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Jonathan Edelstein 04.08.19 at 4:56 pm

Signed.

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William S Berry 04.08.19 at 4:59 pm

As a retired working class dog and (USW) union activist who will never be invited to any think tank conferences, I am, nonetheless, 100% down with the sentiment. More of this kind of ostracism of the enablers of neo-fascist evil is desperately needed.

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Marian H. Routh 04.08.19 at 5:02 pm

Unlikely I’ll ever be in a position to boycott but you can be sure I will. She should be in the dock at The Hague and then imprisoned for crimes against humanity.

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Glen LeBarr 04.08.19 at 5:13 pm

signed! And I’m Canadian!

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Jon Grande 04.08.19 at 5:17 pm

Signed.

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Allan Sugarbaker 04.08.19 at 5:26 pm

Signed. She has a lot to answer for.

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Mingjane Wu 04.08.19 at 6:08 pm

Signed.

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David Garland 04.08.19 at 6:08 pm

Signed.

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Dave Coates 04.08.19 at 6:32 pm

Signed!

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Andrew Garrison 04.08.19 at 6:44 pm

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Michele Waggner 04.08.19 at 6:44 pm

signed

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Rob Chametzky 04.08.19 at 6:46 pm

“If she gets a position at a think-tank, university center or similar, I will not participate on any panel that involves anyone from that think-tank, center or other institution. I will not participate in any event where the institution plays an organizing role, nor will I associate myself in any way that might reasonably be seen as providing active support for that institution.”

A question: what if it were one’s own institution–more specifically, must it be, say, the specific ‘university center’, and not the larger, encompassing institution? And were she (somehow) offered, instead, (some kind of) a faculty position, would the refusal cover only the offending department?

Thanks,

RC

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Andrew Lathrop 04.08.19 at 6:47 pm

I will never participate in functions, products, companies that Nielsen is involved with.
There are to many horrendous actions by her to list.

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Jeff Rodman 04.08.19 at 7:24 pm

Signed.

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Maggie Knoke 04.08.19 at 7:24 pm

Signed.

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Brad Bronk 04.08.19 at 7:47 pm

Boycott anyone who hires/supports/deals with any of the lying, cheating, unethical and immoral members of the trump administration.

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Zbigniew Nowosielski 04.08.19 at 8:45 pm

Signed.

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Fr. 04.08.19 at 9:04 pm

> Kirstjen Nielsen is a vile enabler of the Trump Administration’s policy of racist cruelty. Her presence soils the reputation and integrity of any institution that would employ her. [42]

Exactly that.

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Michael 04.08.19 at 9:45 pm

I will publicly condemn any agency which hires or uses Ms. Nielsen in any capacity. she can buy a plot of land and raise goats for all i care. she is worthy of complete shunning by society, until she turns evidence against trump and accepts criminal liability for her horrible actions.

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Jockobadger 04.08.19 at 10:18 pm

Signed

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Jon Green 04.08.19 at 10:24 pm

Signed.

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Andrew Jolliff 04.08.19 at 10:27 pm

Signed.

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Mark Kleiman 04.08.19 at 11:38 pm

Boycott her and anyone who supports her. No platforms for fascists.

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Matthew Rowlinson 04.08.19 at 11:49 pm

This may seem petty, but as Michelle Goldberg says, it is important. Happy to participate fwiw. Hope someone is at work on a list of institutions under censure for employing ex-Trump officials.

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Teemu Junttila 04.09.19 at 12:03 am

Just say no to evil

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Andrew Pavelchek 04.09.19 at 12:04 am

Signed.

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Dinah Gipson 04.09.19 at 12:07 am

Signed

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Gregory Roberts 04.09.19 at 12:10 am

“Boycott anyone who hires/supports/deals with any of the lying, cheating, unethical and immoral members of the trump administration.”

Well said Brad!

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Samuel Collins 04.09.19 at 1:12 am

Signed and pledged!

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Tom maher 04.09.19 at 1:16 am

Signed

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Sergio Tenenbaum 04.09.19 at 1:24 am

Signed

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David Bateman 04.09.19 at 1:26 am

Signed.

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R. Dorn 04.09.19 at 1:29 am

signed.

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Michael Jones-Correa 04.09.19 at 1:52 am

Signed

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Elizabeth Allison 04.09.19 at 2:05 am

Signed

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keith a beebe 04.09.19 at 2:10 am

can hope

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Alan White 04.09.19 at 2:11 am

Signed (FWIW as a non-player in these areas but in unity).

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Beth Lewis Samuelson 04.09.19 at 2:11 am

Signed.

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Elizabeth Cullen Dunn 04.09.19 at 3:03 am

Signed.

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Eric Parfitt 04.09.19 at 3:35 am

Signed. Be excellent to one another

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Dr. Timothy King 04.09.19 at 3:39 am

Signed!

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Stephen Lam 04.09.19 at 4:23 am

Kirstjen Nielsen is a murderer.

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James R Pacek 04.09.19 at 4:25 am

Signed

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Stella Dong 04.09.19 at 4:30 am

Signed.

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Jessica Carr 04.09.19 at 4:39 am

Signed

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Stephen Adams 04.09.19 at 4:47 am

I cannot in conscience debate with or otherwise dignify such a malicious, dishonest, and self-serving individual as Ms. Nielsen, nor with any intellectual institution that considers her fit for employment. Dr Stephen Adams
Professor emeritus
Department of English
University of Western Ontario

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Ethan Fletcher 04.09.19 at 4:51 am

I’m in.

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Jason Weidner 04.09.19 at 4:57 am

Signed.

Same should happen with John Yoo.

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Mark Nichols 04.09.19 at 5:31 am

Signed.

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dolly patterson 04.09.19 at 5:35 am

glad to join you and pass my concerns on to at least 100+ Stanford Faculty.

I truly believe Neilson is evil!

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Sky Siegel 04.09.19 at 6:38 am

Unacceptable.

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Leigh Kimberg, MD 04.09.19 at 6:39 am

Kirstjen Nielsen and anyone else committing these atrocities should be held accountable.

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Dr. John Farrell and Anne Farrell 04.09.19 at 7:57 am

May the Trump stink never wash off this woman, nor all the others who are complicit in Trump’s evil. Make them the pariahs for the rest of their lives.

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Susan Eilenberg 04.09.19 at 8:07 am

Signed.

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James Millward 04.09.19 at 10:11 am

I agree to this boycott idea.

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M Caswell 04.09.19 at 11:08 am

I don’t quite get this. Is the resolution about academic and published work in particular, or about any sort of employment?

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Ekaterina Kravtchenko 04.09.19 at 11:54 am

Signed.

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Margaret Somers 04.09.19 at 12:25 pm

Signed

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Megan McDonald Way 04.09.19 at 12:28 pm

Signed.

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Marc Donner 04.09.19 at 12:48 pm

Way to go!

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Sphragis 04.09.19 at 12:48 pm

I agree to this, and will sign with my public name and affiliation, but wish to pose this question here with relative anonymity.

What about other figures who have been given financial and institutional support, whose work has provided some of the so-called “intellectual underpinnings” of the many of the assumptions upon which people like Nielsen operate?

I am thinking here of Charles Murray, whose book “The Bell Curve” has been, arguably, as profoundly damaging with respect to policy prescriptions, as the labor of those implementing such policies.

I would argue that, following the logic here with regards to Nielsen (with which I agree), then a similar boycott of AEI is definitely in order.

Thoughts?

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Peter Bonta 04.09.19 at 12:49 pm

Signed…

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Laura Schmidt 04.09.19 at 12:57 pm

I support this boycott.

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John Paul Rosario 04.09.19 at 12:57 pm

I fully agree. It’s a small step, but a step nonetheless. People in this Administration need to be held accountable for their actions.

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William Vinje 04.09.19 at 1:23 pm

I hereby sign the above pledge.

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D Jagannathan 04.09.19 at 1:28 pm

Signed.

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Nestor Guillen 04.09.19 at 1:31 pm

Signed

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Susan Engel 04.09.19 at 1:36 pm

I agree, completely.

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Mehnaaz Momen 04.09.19 at 2:29 pm

In complete agreement.

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Christopher Boch 04.09.19 at 2:32 pm

Signed

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Seva Gunitsky 04.09.19 at 2:46 pm

Signed

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Jeff Nichols 04.09.19 at 2:57 pm

Signed.

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Niskanen Center 04.09.19 at 2:59 pm

Signed

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Daniela Vergara 04.09.19 at 3:00 pm

Thank you for doing this. I completely agree.

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Ned Richardson-Little 04.09.19 at 3:11 pm

Signed

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JW Mason 04.09.19 at 3:26 pm

Signed.

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Christopher Sprigman 04.09.19 at 3:31 pm

Signed

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Justin Ram 04.09.19 at 3:43 pm

I agree completely, without any reservations.

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Daniela Pila 04.09.19 at 4:06 pm

Signed.

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Casey 04.09.19 at 4:20 pm

Signed! She should be held accountable for her actions!

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Rameen Beroukhim 04.09.19 at 4:24 pm

Signed

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Lisa Davis 04.09.19 at 4:26 pm

I’m just a member of the general public without much influence but I want to support this

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David Singerman 04.09.19 at 4:32 pm

Signed.

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Dahlia Lithwick 04.09.19 at 4:35 pm

signed

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Guy Rub 04.09.19 at 4:48 pm

Signed.

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Jennifer Baker 04.09.19 at 4:48 pm

Signed

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mark levine 04.09.19 at 4:55 pm

signed

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Stephen Holland 04.09.19 at 4:58 pm

I support this effort to publicly rebuke, and refuse any public or private accommodation to any and all members of the Trump administration. Shame on them for dragging our country into the mud.

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Kevin Cope 04.09.19 at 5:08 pm

Signed. Though I sign only for myself, I’ll be the director of the UVA Law Immigration Law Program starting this summer; I really hope UVA’s Miller Center doesn’t repeat its Marc Short mistake.

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Larry Edward Becker 04.09.19 at 5:16 pm

Signed

While Kirstjen Nielsen is certainly guilty of crimes against humanity, let us not forget that Trump’s head of the CIA Gina Haspell admitted to actively participating in torture, yet was still confirmed by our craven congress.

John Yoo, who authored the infamous torture memo under W’s administration, is currently in his old job as a tenured professor at UC Berkeley.

The list goes on, but my point is this: even if somehow Nielsen is imprisoned for life, there is still a lot of others we need to take out.

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Joe McReynolds 04.09.19 at 5:47 pm

Signed.

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Emily Keehn 04.09.19 at 5:51 pm

Signed

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Evan Gottlieb 04.09.19 at 5:54 pm

Like everyone who’s agreed to work for Trump, Nielsen should be permanently shunned from public life .

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John Stephens 04.09.19 at 6:09 pm

Signed

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Brad Kramer 04.09.19 at 6:13 pm

Signed

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Davy 04.09.19 at 6:52 pm

Signed

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gil olson 04.09.19 at 7:00 pm

signed

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Annette Fallin 04.09.19 at 7:12 pm

Signed.

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Margaret Peters 04.09.19 at 7:15 pm

Signed

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Josh Whitford 04.09.19 at 7:22 pm

signed

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Will Wilkinson 04.09.19 at 7:30 pm

Signed.

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David Arnow 04.09.19 at 7:33 pm

She is but the head of a very long list. May our memories be as long as the list.

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Andrew Lorent 04.09.19 at 7:35 pm

signed

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Bryan McCloskey 04.09.19 at 8:05 pm

signed

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Mitch Guthman 04.09.19 at 8:41 pm

Signed

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Michael Paarlberg 04.09.19 at 8:57 pm

Signed

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DavidTheK 04.09.19 at 9:21 pm

Signed, I agree in in principal; but as a long-term unemployed my signature is basically meaningless.

@148 Kevin Cope – Wikipedia tells me Ms Nielesen received her graduate degree, a law degree from UVa in 1999. You have to wonder if there were red flags then. We can’t have a meaningful reckoning until the institutions that send these people out into the world understand their own responsibility to inculcate how reprehensible this behavior is.

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marjorie trifon 04.09.19 at 10:15 pm

It is my fervent wish that Stephen Miller, Jarvanka, Trump & all other of his spawn, also be shunned.

How appropriate that we use that particular word, also used by the Amish & others in Pennsylvania Dutch country. One who has broken the code of a moral, civilized, spiritual community is CAST OUT–FOREVER SHUNNED.

THESE MONSTERS CLUSTERED AROUND THE GREAT IMMORAL MONSTER, deserve to be cast into The Wilderness; better yet, into The Hellfire.

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Mark Vail 04.09.19 at 10:35 pm

Signed

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Charles F. Walker 04.09.19 at 10:49 pm

Signed

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Evan Warner 04.09.19 at 10:54 pm

Signed.

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Daniel Braaten 04.09.19 at 11:05 pm

Signed

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Thomas Nephew 04.09.19 at 11:36 pm

Signed.

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Joshua Cohen 04.09.19 at 11:49 pm

Signed

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Alexander Furnas 04.09.19 at 11:57 pm

Signed.

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Julia Bond 04.09.19 at 11:58 pm

Signed

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Scott sommers 04.10.19 at 1:55 am

Signed

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Mary Pat P Rowan 04.10.19 at 1:58 am

I agree with this comment:”Boycott anyone who hires/supports/deals with any of the lying, cheating, unethical and immoral members of the trump administration.”

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Virginia Vaidhyanathan 04.10.19 at 4:03 am

As a person who has helped develop ethical organ transplant programs, I am appalled by the lack of ethics in this administration.

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Jennifer Hays-Grudo 04.10.19 at 4:14 am

Signed.

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Matthew Hitt 04.10.19 at 4:19 am

Signed

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Alison Bridger 04.10.19 at 4:23 am

Boycott ALL the cronies who have worked with the trump administration.

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Tom Radcliffe 04.10.19 at 6:04 am

Signed.

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Vasuki Nesiah 04.10.19 at 11:34 am

Signed

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Andrew Bennett 04.10.19 at 12:11 pm

Signed.

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Ruth SoRelle 04.10.19 at 2:12 pm

Families belong together.

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William Clare Roberts 04.10.19 at 2:19 pm

Signed!

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Paul Adler 04.10.19 at 2:54 pm

Signed

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David B Morris 04.10.19 at 3:27 pm

Signed.

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Shaun DMello 04.10.19 at 6:09 pm

Signed – Don’t believe there’s justice in the world world anymore, but gotta keep hoping.

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Nina Lin 04.10.19 at 6:14 pm

I signed

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Alain V Berrebi 04.11.19 at 1:12 am

I like the approach that the Amish people take with those they feel have disrespected the community, they shun those people. if there is no sanction against actions like the ones she took as Homeland Security then we are doomed to repeat those same horrendous inhumane governmental actions.

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Cathy L Schneider 04.11.19 at 1:22 am

signed. Will not work with someone who takes babies from their mothers and keeps them in cages.

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cecilia 04.11.19 at 2:00 am

Kirstjen Nielsen is a “Good German”. The excuse “I was just following orders” has never aged well and her reputation in History is set. She’s an awful creature, barely human. In every possible way, she needs to be shunned.

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Alain V Berrebi 04.11.19 at 4:18 am

Let us never say her name again or anyone else that had anything to do with these atrocities. The wonder they revoked the visas for the International Criminal Court.

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Ananya Chakravarti 04.11.19 at 2:53 pm

I translate documents for asylum-seeking children, many of whom were held in solitary confinement for months at a time. Their stories are so horrific, it is incredible to me everyone associated with this is not in prison for the systemic violation of the human rights of children. The idea that I should have to share a campus with someone who oversaw the torture of children is not something I can stomach. Signed.

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Stephanie Han 04.11.19 at 6:10 pm

Signed!

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John D Lawson 04.11.19 at 6:22 pm

Signed.

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Rich Dohoda 04.12.19 at 5:35 am

John Quiggin@18.
World weary tone? You discerned that from a single sentence?
What kind of person, you ask? A person with much to risk. Once a widely respected, both politically and professionally, physician. A commissioned officer promoted ahead of his peers at or near the top of his game.
Perhaps you also took a stand while in uniform against torture and an unjust war near its inception over 15 years ago. I don’t know, but you blogged, you say, over that same period.
However, the cost has been an externally imposed social isolation, professional and familial. Where once the invitations to teach, lecture , write and man-up as director or department head arrived with some frequency, for the last decade on there have been no such solicitations. Time passes rapidly reading blogs in between a few rejection letters from entry-level positions. With all those mounting disappointments there have also been a few threats of violence as asinine, insightful and pathetic as your analysis
So, I do not sincerely recommend anyone risking life, limb or career in an effort to ostracize Ms. Nielsen from the body politic. I just think it’s as accurate to surmise that no one responding in the affirmative here is looking to risk anything for the isolation of Kirstjen’s sorry ass.

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Sherlynn Miller 04.12.19 at 8:37 pm

I do not feel that we should make it easy for Kirstjen Nielson to get a cushy new job. Anyone that would actually implement Trump’s zero tolerance policy could and probably will do anything to project herself upward in her new job. Any decent person would have quit their job when asked to separate children from their families and put innocent children in prisons with no contact with their parents. To make it even worse, they did not even bother to keep records of which child belonged to what family, leaving the child, possibly, to be separated for the rest of their lives.

I do not feel she deserves a second chance just because she had finally had enough of the horrible things that the President was requesting her to do. I believe that she has no regreat but in the end was more afraid of going to prison by breaking the law and she decided to resign then.

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