As Brad DeLong and umpteen others have said, the “on the one hand, on the other hand” style of reporting is a crock. It’s a lazy man’s version of unbiased reporting, giving equal time to spin, crackpottery and facts. Now, some interesting evidence as to how this happens in the NYT. The Times has a “story”:http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/02/politics/campaign/02cnd-elec.html?ex=1257138000&en=b5c959211463d899&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland today about how the current race is too close to call. However, for a few minutes this morning, they had the wrong version of the story up on their website – they’d posted the raw version, with all the editors’ comments included. A good friend spotted it in time, and sent it to me – I enclose it below the fold. The smoking gun (I’ve bolded the editor’s comments):
bq. Bush supporters were also out. The driver of a Greyhound bus stopped his vehicle on a Philadelphia street, got out and ripped down a campaign poster for John Kerry.we cant let this stand as emblematic of Bush supporters. either get some quotes from bush supporters or leave it out
Needless to say, this intriguing little incident was cut from the final version of the article.
At the End, Race Between Kerry and Bush Is Too Close to Call
By CHRISTINE HAUSER
and MARIA NEWMAN
Published: November 2, 2004
In schools and firehouses and community centers across the
country, Americans streamed into polling stations today to
vote for the next president of the United States, choosing
between men with very different visions of the future in a race
whose outcome experts said was too close to predict.
By flipping a mechanical lever and tapping a computer
screenno paper anywhere?, voters will finally register just how
successful each candidate was in selling his agenda on
national security, the economy and other issues at the
forefront of eight months of grinding campaigning.
Trying to sway the undecided voters in key areas, Senator John
Kerry, the Democratic nominee, and President Bush, the
Republican, spent Monday shuttling to events in Ohio and
Florida and several other states considered crucial to the
outcome. Mr. Bush ended Monday at his ranch in Crawford,
Tex., where he spent the night and voted at a local firehouse
this morning.
“We’ll see what the people say,” Mr. Bush said after casting his
vote, speaking to reporters with his wife, Laura, at his side.
“Now is the time for the people to express their will.”
Mr. Kerry was to vote in Boston.
In the last few weeks, both sides competed furiously for votes,
with a flurry of campaign advertisements that were spun out
over the airwaves, tapping into concerns over terrorism, the
economy and the war in Iraq.
Voter turnout was expected to be very large, perhaps
surpassing the 105 million that voted in the 2000right?
election. That turnout represented 51 percent of the voting-
age population. This year, Curtis Gans, director of the
nonpartisan Committee for the Study of the American
Electorate, told The Associated Press that he expected a
turnout of 118 million to 121 million, or 58 percent to 60
percent of the electorate.
Indeed, early turnout appeared steady, with lines forming at
polling stations well before they opened. Even in the driving
rain and while it was still dark, eager voters waited outside of
the North Rosedale Park Community Center on the east side of
Detroit.
Oretha Pettiway, 49, a principal at a special education school,
held a folder over her head to shield herself from the rain. She
waited to cast her ballot for Mr. Kerry, attracted by his health
care agenda. “I just think we need a new direction,” she said.
In North Philadelphia, Valerie Morman, 42, a legal secretary,
walked to her polling place at St. Malachy School. “The last
time I voted,” she said, “was about 20 years ago,” adding that
she intended to vote for Senator John Kerry.
“I stayed home because I haven’t felt like it counted,” she
explained of her attitude toward previous elections. “I have
had a change of heart, and I think there are hundreds of
thousands of others like me.”
Bush supporters were also out. The driver of a Greyhound bus
stopped his vehicle on a Philadelphia street, got out and
ripped down a campaign poster for John Kerry.we cant let this
stand as emblematic of Bush supporters. either get some
quotes from bush supporters or leave it out
When the counting begins in one state after another, a
spotlight will be shone on a brave new world of post-2000
presidential voting, showing the consequences of changes put
into place four years ago that may mark a turning point in the
way Americans choose their leaders.
Two of the biggest changes since 2000 are that more people
are registered to vote now — as many as 15 million more in
the entire country by some counts — and both parties and
their supporters have worked harder and are spending more
money than ever before to get those voters to the polls.
And perhaps the biggest concerns involved potential voting
fraud and attempts to suppress voting rights. Never before
have Americans been so skeptical about the integrity of the
voting process, analysts say.can we source this somehow, to
polls, experts or somebody? otherwise, it sounds like the
writers are just expressing an opinion
Elections officials have said that charges of voter intimidation
and voter fraud have been more prevalent this year than any in
recent memory, a sentiment that almost certainly can be
traced to the disputed election four years ago, when Mr. Bush
prevailed after numerous court challenges in the decisive State
of Florida and, ultimately, a decision by the Supreme Court.
n North Philadelphia, Valerie Morman, 42, a legal secretary,
walked to her polling place at St. Malachy School. “The last
time I voted,” she said, “was about 20 years ago,” adding that
she intended to vote for Senator John Kerry.
“I stayed home because I haven’t felt like it counted,” she
explained of her attitude toward previous elections. “I have
had a change of heart, and I think there are hundreds of
thousands of others like me.”
When the counting begins in one state after another, a
spotlight will be shone on a brave new world of post-2000
presidential voting, showing the consequences of changes put
into place four years ago that may mark a turning point in the
way Americans choose their leaders.
Two of the biggest changes since 2000 are that more people
are registered to vote now – as many as 15 million more in the
entire country by some counts – and both parties and their
supporters have worked harder and are spending more money
than ever before to get those voters to the polls.
And perhaps the biggest concerns involved potential voting
fraud and attempts to suppress voting rights. Never before
have Americans been so skeptical about the integrity of the
voting process, analysts say.
Elections officials have said that charges of voter intimidation
and voter fraud have been more prevalent this year than any in
recent memory, a sentiment that almost certainly can be
traced to the disputed election four years ago, when Mr. Bush
prevailed after numerous court challenges in the decisive State
of Florida and, ultimately, a decision by the Supreme Court.
In Broward County, Fla., this morning, a group of men set up a
canopy under a tree in a parking lot outside a voter precinct in
a union building, enticing voters with an unlikely breakfast of
fried chicken, mashed potatoes, sodas, toast and jam. Many
ate while in line and listened to loud blues music.
“It was really easy,” said Darnell Medina, 52, after voting at the
longshoremen union’s building. “It’s self-explanatory, but I
understand not everybody can follow directions.”
“I personally haven’t heard of any voter harassment, but the
day is still young,” he added.
In a 2-to-1 decision, the United States Court of Appeals for
the Sixth Circuit, in Cincinnati, granted stays effectively
overturning two federal district court decisions that had
barred partisan challengers for polling places in Ohio. Justice
John Paul Stevens of the United States Supreme Court let that
decision stand, effectively ending the court dispute.
Polls over the last three weeks have shown the race
excruciatingly tight. Most weekend polling had Mr. Bush and
Mr. Kerry within a hair’s breadth, separated by no more than 1,
2 or 3 percentage points. In some of the key states, the polls
differ over which man leads. A third candidate, Ralph Nader,
who many Democrats blamed for siphoning votes away from
the Democratic nominee in 2000, Al Gore, has generally been
attracting only 1 to 2 percent support in opinion surveys and
is not even on the ballot in some states.
Gathering the last-minute, undecided voters into their fold
was a major goal of the candidates’ final throes of
campaigning in one of the most bitterly fought elections in
United States history.
Just days before the election, new security fears were stoked
with the appearance of Osama Bin Laden on a videotape
broadcast by an Arab news channel. Mr. Bush said the new
appearance by Mr. bin Laden demonstrated how crucial a time
this was in the fight against terrorism, and that his own
leadership capabilities were needed to win the fight. Mr. Kerry
and his aides said it emphasized a failure on Mr. Bush’s part to
stop the threat of the Al Qaeda leader.
The appearance of the bin Laden tape shifted the focus last
week from reports of missing explosives from an unsecured
warehouse in Iraq.
Millions of voters have already cast their ballots in the election
in early voting that was introduced in several states to alleviate
election-day problems or holdups. Some experts predicted
that a fifth of voters all over the country will have already cast
their ballots, in the 31 states that allow some form of early
voting or absentee voting. In West Palm Beach, Fla., voters
waited in line up to four hours on Monday waiting to cast their
ballots, a testament, some analysts said, of the determination
by voters to make their votes count this time around.
n 2000, 13 states allowed early voting. This year, 23 states
offered early balloting and in addition, laws governing
absentee voting have become less stringent in many states,
letting people obtain absentee ballots almost unconditionally
and often, as in Wisconsin, to cast them on the spot. That
amounts to a form of early voting and raises the total to 31
states.
This year, the campaigns devoted millions of dollars to pay
people to register others to vote, and to persuade those
people to actually cast a ballot, even offering them rides to
voting places.
The Washington Post reported on Monday that Mr. Bush’s
campaign had budgeted about $125 million, about three times
as much as in 2000, for voter mobilization. Mr. Kerry’s
operation, run out of the party headquarters, will spend nearly
$60 million, The Post said, double what the Democrats spent
four years ago.
Outside groups are spending additional funds. One of them,
America Coming Together, a pro-Kerry organization, could
spend $100 million to 125 million, The Post said.
As The New York Times reported on Monday, never in the
history of American presidential campaigns will so many
people be called, visited, handed literature and cajoled to vote
than in the final hours of this race.
And the team with the better turnout is almost certain to win
the race, strategists say.
A poll by MTV and Center for Information and Research on
Civic Learning and Engagement said that this year, young
people were showing the highest interest in the presidential
election since 1992.
William Galston, director of the center at the University of
Maryland, told The Omaha World-Herald in Nebraska that
nonpartisan voter-mobilization groups spent as much as $40
million this year to register young people.
One of the most successful groups, Rock the Vote, a
nonpartisan group founded in 1990 to fight censorship in
music and later expanded to promote young voting, has
recorded 1.371 million new registrations of 18- to 30-year-
olds nationwide, a spokesman Jay Strell, said.
Howard Altman contributed reporting from Philadelphia, Maria
Herrera from Florida and Jeremy W. Peters from Detroit.
{ 32 comments }
trostky 11.02.04 at 6:42 pm
Um, are you suggesting that a single anonymous anecdote should stand as emblematic of Republicans?
sd 11.02.04 at 6:53 pm
While I’m sympathetic to the DeLong argument – the press does sometimes seem to go out of its way to bring “balance” to stories, even when that means lining up spin against facts and not calling a spade a spade – there is absolutely no foul here.
Partisans on boths sides engage in unpleasent behavior including, gasp, tearing down signs. Unless the press has some sort of substantial evidense that there is a disparity in the frequency of such behavior across the political spectrum, it IS bad reporting to highlight a single anecdote of nefariousness on one side without some counter-balanced detail.
grep 11.02.04 at 7:02 pm
yeah, dude, c’mon. my parents are die-hard republicans in a slightly-red (pink?) state. they *regularly* get the bush-cheney bumpersticker ripped from their car, so much so that they keep a backup supply ready to replace the lost ones.
so, uh… [yawn]. both sides do this petty sort of thing. nothing to see here.
agm 11.02.04 at 7:05 pm
I hope NYT won’t give you any trouble for posting this.
As to the anecdote and its criticism, bravo to that editor. The inclusion of such a tidbit would definitely inject some color into this piece of journalism, yellow even. The media should stick to reporting facts (which would provide enough reason for those who have an ear to hear not to support Bush this time anyways).
bob mcmanus 11.02.04 at 7:09 pm
“Um, are you suggesting that a single anonymous anecdote should stand as emblematic of Republicans?”
How about a reporter and editor report only what they actually know, and what they actually see…and leave others to do the balancing.
Henry 11.02.04 at 7:12 pm
Yeah, sure it’s a tiny incident in and of itself, but what’s interesting is the “we can’t have a negative mention of Republican supporters without a counterbalancing positive mention” implied in the editorial comment.
George 11.02.04 at 7:13 pm
Good point, but poor evidence.
max 11.02.04 at 8:01 pm
Apparently even Adam Nagourney agrees with you. Somehow I feel he’s still not getting it….
robbo 11.02.04 at 8:08 pm
As others have noted, the editor was right — the problem with “on-the-one-handism” comes when there’s ample evidence that the two sides of a position do not warrant equal weight (e.g., intellectually or morally) — it really has nothing to do with this type of anecdote. It’s well known that both sides engage in this petty crap, so it would be misleading to mention only the casual observation of a Republican doing it. Now, if the reporter had conducted a serious investigation and found that Republicans were ripping down significantly more signs than Democrats were, it would be entirely different. Since that’s not what happened, the anecdote doesn’t belong in this report.
Given the truly serious problems in our media, it drives me a little crazy that some people are willing to erode their own credibility, and that of all lefties by association, by boo-hooing this completely proper exercise of editorial control.
Sebastian Holsclaw 11.02.04 at 8:14 pm
And on the other hand the tires of the 10 rental vans for the Republican Get Out The Vote drive in Wisconsin got slashed.
The problem with reporting things like that in the paper at this point is that unless you can tie them together to a broader campaign, you are just selecting whatever anecdotes suit your personal agenda.
Shai 11.02.04 at 8:25 pm
yeah, as others have said this style of article uses anecdotes as representative of something more general. I think it is a lazy type of reporting, but not for the reasons you’re demonstrating.
Timothy Burke 11.02.04 at 8:28 pm
I’ll join the chorus here. That’s an entire proper act of editing. A single anecdote has no place in the article unless the reporter is prepared to systematically document the anecdote as a pattern. I do think there’s a pattern of Republican tactics out there that should not be reduced to “both sides do it”: the Republicans really are working hard at vote suppression and at preparing the grounds for legal contestation of results. But tearing down signs? If there was ever anything that you could legitimately, factually claim was something that both sides do, this would be it. The folks around the corner from us who have a Bush-Cheney sign have had it torn down six times now. I’d resent it if that showed up in a news article as a suggestion that Kerry’s partisans are systematically prowling around trying to rip down the opposition’s signs, because there is no such pattern. But it has happened nevertheless.
Fair point, bad example.
Henry 11.02.04 at 8:34 pm
OK – at the least you’ve all convinced me that this is not as straightforward an example as it seemed to me to be at first of the phenomenon that I’m trying to describe. Fair cop. I’m still convinced however that there’s something real to this – whether or not lawn signs get ripped down all the while, the fact that a Republican ripping down signs has to be “balanced” by comments from other Republicans, seems to me to be pretty weird.
Melissa 11.02.04 at 9:11 pm
I agree that the editor was right to suggest that the anecdote was misleading, inasmuch as there was no reason to believe that it was either systematic or restricted to Republicans. Indeed, this anecdote portrays the editor in a pretty good light (if not the person who uploaded it prematurely). Another editorial example from the longer article suggests that they’re attempting to respond to concerns raised by the Public Editor, Daniel Okrent. On Sunday, Okrent highlighted the tendency of Times writers to rely on analysts to support their claims, and in the article, it seems that the editor was trying to curb this tendency. “Never before have Americans been so skeptical about the integrity of the voting process, analysts say.can we source this somehow, to polls, experts or somebody? otherwise, it sounds like the writers are just expressing an opinion.”
Okrent did argue that in some circumstances, it may be appropriate for writers to draw on their experience and offer their opinions and analyses, instead of attributing these views to unnamed experts. In this case, it seems reasonable to me that the editor wanted more meaningful attribution. However, in the version still on line as of 4 p.m., no one has responded to the editor’s request for substantiation. The sentence now reads: “Never before have Americans been so skeptical about the integrity of the voting process, analysts say.”
Michael Blowhard 11.02.04 at 9:27 pm
So, you’re seeing a … Republican agenda at work at the NYTimes, is that it?
Really? I’ve known plenty of people who work there, and although a few would agree it’s got an Upper West Side mild-leftish bent, and most would argue that the paper does a fair and balanced job, none of them would argue that it’s got a Republican bent.
But maybe your point is just that American editors overdo the “let’s get a comment from the other side” thing? I think that can certainly be true, and maybe this is decent evidence of that. But — and yes, on the other hand — the requirement does also serve a decent purpose, which is to keep reporters a little more fair and balanced than they’d otherwise be. It can force them to concentrate a little more on what’s out there than on their own opinion.
Whether that’s to be desired … I know foreign newspapers are often straightforwardly partisan, and I do enjoy that myself often. But if you’re an American newspaper, there’s an expectation that your news space will present something called “the news” in something called “an objective fashion.”
Brian Weatherson 11.02.04 at 9:36 pm
Michael, it’s hard to look at the NYT’s Whitewater “reporting” and not conclude it has (or at least had for many many years) a pro-Republican bent. Of course that fact doesn’t fit into the convenient storyline about liberal media bias so it’s forgotten, despite it being a tad more important than whether poster tearing is reported or not.
bob mcmanus 11.02.04 at 9:38 pm
“A single anecdote has no place in the article unless the reporter is prepared to systematically document the anecdote as a pattern”
Are you prepared to stand by this as a method, for instance “Bush went to Ohio today, where he made phone calls as part of GOTV.” is an anecdote that says something about Bush.
I know it sounds ridiculous. But should a reporter worry so much about how his observations are interpreted? And why are these two anecdotes different?
I seem to be the only one who thinks that if the reporter only saw the one incident, she reports what she saw.
Michael Blowhard 11.02.04 at 9:41 pm
Brian — I really don’t know what to say to people who argue with the notion that the American media (generally, exceptions allowed for, etc etc), and especially the NYTimes, don’t have a slightly-left take on things. I work in the biz, have done so for 25 years, and yes of course most people in the biz have a slightly-left bias. I don’t think that this is a bad thing, although it’s certainly worth taking into account. But I also don’t know why anyone would waste energy denying it either.
BTW, here’s a Slate piece. Writer spent a few days wearing a “Bush” t-shirt in leftyville, then a “Kerry” tshirt in rightieville. Interesting results.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2108561
Michael Blowhard 11.02.04 at 9:44 pm
Bob – Reporters on assignments see literally an infinite number of things. How and why to highlight the very finite number of them that’ll wind up in the published story, that’s the question.
Michael Blowhard 11.02.04 at 9:46 pm
Bob – Reporters on assignments see literally an infinite number of things. How and why to highlight the very finite number of them that’ll wind up in the published story, that’s the question.
Michael Blowhard 11.02.04 at 9:47 pm
Bob – Reporters on assignments see literally an infinite number of things. How and why to highlight the very finite number of them that’ll wind up in the published story, that’s the question.
mona 11.02.04 at 9:59 pm
At first, I too thought like Bob McManus, why shouldn’t she report what she sees? she’s drawing no conclusions, it’s just an anecdote.
But, let’s be honest, that’s a bit naive. The editor has to worry about how an article is being read, not just about how it’s being written. People reading it will know already that ripping down posters and lawn signs is a sport practiced by supporters of both parties, so that sentence in the article will stand out and inevitably the reader will assume the writer is trying to make a point about Republicans being thugs. Even if those weren’t her intentions.
Imagine someone reading that phrase after hearing that Katherine Harris got nearly run down by some idiot in a car who was still angry for Florida 2000. Ripping a poster would have looked totally innocent by comparison.
I think she was simply trying to show how people feel strongly about the elections. The editor should have suggested a counter-example of similar behaviour from people in the other camp, not “quotes by Republicans”, that indeed sounds weird.
Like others said, the point about the lazy man’s view of “unbiased” is fair, but this doesn’t seem a very strong example.
coinneach 11.02.04 at 10:18 pm
I sometimes wonder if we would be better off if newspapers — or other news organizations — dropped all of their pretensions to impartiality and instead declared their partisan leanings outright. Coverage of the Jefferson-Adams presidential election was found in papers with ‘Federalist’ and ‘Republican’ in the titles. Can there truly be unbiased news? If not, as I’m suggesting, then perhaps the news organizations should announce their leanings and let the readers/listeners take everything with a grain of salt.
coinneach 11.02.04 at 10:18 pm
I sometimes wonder if we would be better off if newspapers — or other news organizations — dropped all of their pretensions to impartiality and instead declared their partisan leanings outright. Coverage of the Jefferson-Adams presidential election was found in papers with ‘Federalist’ and ‘Republican’ in the titles. Can there truly be unbiased news? If not, as I’m suggesting, then perhaps the news organizations should announce their leanings and let the readers/listeners take everything with a grain of salt.
coinneach 11.02.04 at 10:20 pm
I sometimes wonder if we would be better off if newspapers — or other news organizations — dropped all of their pretensions to impartiality and instead declared their partisan leanings outright. It’s happened before — coverage of the Jefferson-Adams presidential election was found in papers with ‘Federalist’ and ‘Republican’ in the titles.
And why not? Can there truly be unbiased news? If not, as I’d suggest, then perhaps the news organizations should announce their leanings and let the readers/listeners take everything with a grain of salt.
coinneach 11.02.04 at 10:21 pm
I sometimes wonder if we would be better off if newspapers — or other news organizations — dropped all of their pretensions to impartiality and instead declared their partisan leanings outright. It’s happened before — coverage of the Jefferson-Adams presidential election was found in papers with ‘Federalist’ and ‘Republican’ in the titles.
And why not? Can there truly be unbiased news? If not, as I’d suggest, then perhaps the news organizations should announce their leanings and let the readers/listeners take everything with a grain of salt.
Sebastian Holsclaw 11.02.04 at 10:24 pm
I’m not sure that I buy the Whitewater thing as being against the ‘left-wing media bias’ understanding. The media has a hierarchy of biases. The top one is sensationalism. One of the next two or three is a liberal storyline. But sensationalism trumps even the liberal storyline bias in most cases. Hence a story about possible fraud and insider trading by the Clintons trumps the fact that the story was hurting Democrats.
BadTux 11.02.04 at 11:04 pm
I’ve run into this on a personal basis. I’ve had arguments with newspaper editors that they’re according lies and the truth the same amount of column inches in their papers (this was about local issues). Their response: “We’re just reporting what X said about issue Y.”
Journalists no longer feel that their duty to the public is to uncover the truth and report it. Their job now is to be transcriptionists, reporting what persons X and Y said about issue Z with no attempt to uncover the truth about issue Z. While there has always been a tendency on the part of reporters to act as transcriptionists to those in power, this trend has reached frightening proportions over the past 20 years. Part of this is because of right-wing intimidation — reporters and editors who dare report that person Y is a liar get their butts sued off, and even though the lawsuits get dismissed in court, it put many smaller newspapers out of business due to the costs of litigation or the costs of liability insurance to protect against the costs of litigation, meaning that editors and reporters are now much more cautious. And part of it is simply sheer laziness. It’s easier to just do “he said/she said” “reporting” than to actually dig up the real facts and report those.
Either way, the gospel truth is that journalism in America is sick, sick, sick, sick, and it is unclear whether there is anything we can do to return it to being a profession where its practitioners are seekers of truth, rather than transcriptionists for those in power.
– Badtux the Disgusted Penguin
Blar 11.02.04 at 11:30 pm
This voter with a sympathetic job is voting for Kerry because of his health care plan. “I just think we need a new direction,” she says. This other voter hasn’t voted in 20 years, but she’s shown up today to vote for Kerry too. You may be wondering: aren’t there any Bush supporters? Sure, there’s one right over there tearing down a Kerry sign.
Anecdotes, when used well, should be a microcosm of the facts. When the facts are balanced the anecdotes should be balanced, and when the facts are imbalanced the anecdotes should be imbalanced in the same way. Today, there are nearly equal numbers of Kerry and Bush voters, and there is no evidence that more Kerry signs are being torn down, so a fair article should not mention two nice Kerry voters and then contrast them with a jerk who is “supporting” Bush by tearing down a Kerry sign. Especially if the two sides are explicitly compared with a sentence like “Bush supporters were also out.”
Anno-nymous 11.02.04 at 11:57 pm
The Times fixed it, but in their original post of the “High turnout” article it said something along the lines of “Experts expect that turnout in this election could be very high, perhaps surpassing the 105 million who voted in 2000, or 51% of the voting age population.”
link
Dan Simon 11.03.04 at 9:41 am
it’s hard to look at the NYT’s Whitewater “reporting†and not conclude it has (or at least had for many many years) a pro-Republican bent.
Does Harper’s Magazine (under Lewis Lapham’s reign) have “a pro-Republican bent”? They published some rather harsh material about Whitewater in the pre-Newt era (before November of 1994). I remember one “investigative” article whose author breathlessly reported having been conked on the head and deprived of his notes by persons unknown, while looking into Clinton’s alleged ’80’s-era corruption in Arkansas.
You see, back in the early nineties, the left viewed Clinton not as a lone, brave bulwark against ruthless Congressional Republicans, but rather as a centrist sellout who was squandering the Democratic Party’s complete control of all branches of the federal government. To them, he was the president who had abandoned Lani Guinier, gays in the military, and single-payer health care for the sake of personal political expediency. If Harper’s and the New York Times were raising a stink about Whitewater back then, a “pro-Republican tilt” had nothing whatsoever to do with it.
Howard Altman 11.06.04 at 1:51 am
For what it’s worth, I am the reporter who witnessed the Greyhound bus driver rip down the sign. I didn’t think it emblematic of Republicans, just an interesting event taking place right in front of me.
As an editor and writer, I do know that raw material is raw for a reason. And that there are editors for a reason.
Howard
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