How do Swear words get to be swear words?

by Harry on October 21, 2004

In my Contemporary Moral Issues course I’ve recently been teaching about hate speech codes on campus. Well, it was contemporary a few years ago, and still interests me. So it was fair enough for one of my students to email me a question I can’t really answer:

bq. Yesterday I found myself wondering why bad words are bad. I can’t seem to figure it out. I understand that some people find these words to be offensive but I don’t know why that is. Any comments?

I started an email rambling on about conventions, taboos, and common knowledge about certain uses (eg, various racist epithets enjoy their status as deeply offensive and hurtful words because we all now they are routinely used by racists for that purpose); and of course I realise that conventions depend on background practices and contexts (it is awfully difficult, in America, to come up with a hurtful and ‘racist’ term for English people, because, well, their just isn’t the social context or history to support such a term). But swearing doesn’t have exactly the same sort of route, and within each group of bad words there seem to be different paths. And, truth is, I feel that I’m just restating the existence of the phenomenon he’s wondering about. If you can answer his question I can either steal your answer and sound smart (and hope he doesn’t read the site) or just point him here.

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mickslam 10.21.04 at 2:45 am

Not a real response, but…

Try ‘teabag’ for the English, its about as bad as it gets over here. I really hope I didn’t offend anyone, because I love the English, and want to move back to London asap.

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Ayjay 10.21.04 at 2:50 am

I wonder if there is a single, or even a general, answer to this question. Maybe there are different routes by which a word ends up being a swear word. Someone should do a thorough etymological and lexicographical analysis of George Carlin’s “Seven Words You Can’t Say on Television.”

Take “fuck,” for instance. It’s from an Old English word meaning to strike or hit, so it’s a way to describe sex as an act of violence. It would therefore be a less-than-polite way to refer to something that can be described more gently. So it’s easy to see how it became a word to be avoided except in certain private contexts.

But I don’t think “shit” has the same history — though I freely admit to be inexpert about shit. I mean, about “shit”. . . .

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paul anderson 10.21.04 at 3:17 am

the real issue with swearing I believe is mostly puritanical conditioning by uptight parents who picked it up from their parents, etc..

If you think about it, all of the despised words are directly related to either bodily functions or sexual body parts. Try saying “My anus is really itching” at a party. Watch people mumble and scatter. Compare that to “my hand is really itchy” (blank stares, or complete ignoring).

Swearing = referring to body parts or functions that the uptight among us wish didn’t exist (why?). Probably related also somehow to everyone’s completely pointless belief/hope that their parents don’t have sex.

I think it’s a toss-up between mindless puritany, and thinking people who take the pragmatic approach that their children have to live in a fucked up, insincere and vapid world, and that they have to learn to play nicely with the “rest” of the world.

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Sam 10.21.04 at 3:23 am

I remember reading a discussion on “taboo words” in one of Mario Pei’s books years ago.

Sorry, that’s not much help–but I remember finding it interesting and thought-provoking.

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kharris 10.21.04 at 3:40 am

When I was a kid, there was this piece of kid wisdom that went around to explain why we couldn’t use certain words for bodily functions. Any word that was ok at one time became not ok over time, just because it was associated with an not ok bodily function. It was ok for Chaucer to describe those functions in simple Anglo-saxon terms, but not for his successors. Time passed and I forgot about the idea.

Then, I heard a linguist talking about racial labels. He argued that any label attached to a group viewed as inferior would eventually be viewed as inferior, too, so the group would reject the label and adopt another. The specific example he used was for American blacks. The colloquialism for “negro” current at the time was the first to go, followed by “negro”, then “colored, then “African American”. “Black” seems to have stuck, so either he was wrong, or we have overcome an important social hurdle since he offered the theory.

Assuming he was correct, we can broaden his theory a bit to other types of words that are associated with something objectionable. Now don’t get all crazy and indignant. In the case of labels used for blacks, it is the implication of social inferiority that is assumed to have made a series of words unacceptable. It is not the race or its members who were being rejected when the labels were shunned.

So if “shit” or “leg” is objectionable, we adopt “relieve one’s self” and “limb” instead. In the case of bodily functions, once an adequate euphemism is settled on, so that the function is not longer actually being named, we’re done.

Just a guess.

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graduate bum 10.21.04 at 3:54 am

“Take ‘fuck,’ for instance. It’s from an Old English word meaning to strike or hit, so it’s a way to describe sex as an act of violence.”

I thought it was from “fokken,” meaning “to breed.”

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kt 10.21.04 at 4:09 am

Bad words are bad because they are for whatever reason locutions that do not add to civil discourse, civility, civilization. When we pretend to civilization we pretend we are not the animals we also are. We agree not to pick nits in public. Res publica.

It is about an effort to create beauty. Now some people will always attack beauty, and try to roughen her up with courseness. But as we let courseness of all sorts into our body politic, we let go of the bonds that hold civil society together.

Bad words are bad, because otherwise we are barbarians, not caring about the welfare of our fellow man, grubbing as much money as we can without thought for future generations, and talking about stepping on the throats of those who disagree with us.

Bad words are bad, because when we allow our lizard brains to guide us, we hoard. When we allow our animals to rule they will engage in behaviour that suits the animal, but not our neo-cortex, our reasoning behavior. If we do not do the things which nurture the evolution of this neo-cortex, which involves cooperating with others beyond our immediate kin, then we will return to a tribe-like barbarism.

Thus, bad words are bad, not because bodily functions are bad, or because some of them are used to reinforce artificial distinctions based on race, gender, class and the like, but bad words are bad because they let us be lazy about giving into baser instincts and give us disincentives for developing mindful behaviors.

And always remember to honor and respect your mother.

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bob mcmanus 10.21.04 at 4:45 am

Is “limey” considered at all offensive?

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Jason Kuznicki 10.21.04 at 4:51 am

In France, they call the English “rosbeef,” after the presumed favorite food of the English. It’s quite derogatory, though in a quasi-friendly way.

And in the United States, there’s always “whitey” to demean the Anglo-Saxons. Although, as someone of Polish and German descent, I’m by all appearances a whitey myself.

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Sarah 10.21.04 at 4:51 am

Going by what’s been said above, swear words become bad words by being associated with social taboos or private actions. Using them is an assault on cultural values and personal space (the latter because by using words with certain associations, the swearer to some extent forces people to conjure up images of activities we consider private, ‘violating’ us). Yet at the same time it reinforces those taboos, because of the intent behind the usage. I say ‘fuck you’ because I know it will shock some people, reinforcing the idea that sex is a shameful thing, or at least something which should be kept private.

There’s always going to be a need for expressions which express either contempt for someone/something (including such abstract things as values) or anger/frustration. But, to make a very culture-bound assertion, youth culture at least is very fond of claiming that there are now no taboos. I don’t consider myself to be showing contempt or anger when I tell someone I want to fuck them, and I’ve known people use ‘cunt’ as a term of affection.

If it ever happens that taboos really do disappear – unlikely – or that they fragment – very likely – I wonder whether swear words will stagnate, since the taboo-void is most easily filled by keeping common usage, or whether different groups will come to have different swear words according to their cultural taboos, as is the case now with racist insults, but in a much more group-specific way.

Were this group bound usage to become extreme, I wonder whether there could any be any cultural reconciliation, since if we can’t at least insult the group we don’t like and don’t understand, then our frustration at not being able to do so might lead us to desire to have no contact with it at all…

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robbo 10.21.04 at 5:09 am

good points, kt — well stated!

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gj 10.21.04 at 5:09 am

There’s no set standard for “Bad” words. They change over time, as habits, customs and language itself changes. An insluting word, or gesture, in middle english may not even be understood today without a footnote. “Do you bite your tumb at me, sir?”

Most words were labeled taboo to keep a certain reality at bay. For example, the word pregant was considered bad use — even though a woman standing next to you might be seven months gone. Pressing was another “bad” word associated with birth. Other words linked to sex or death also became taboo.

Even today we invent ways around “bad” words — using terms like STD. It keeps the horror (we see the reality of the word as a horror) at bay. Remember what George Orwell said — words create reality. If we have no word for “table” then a table can’t exist.

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Don Quijote 10.21.04 at 5:14 am

In France, they call the English “rosbeef,” after the presumed favorite food of the English. It’s quite derogatory, though in a quasi-friendly way.

And in the United States, there’s always “whitey” to demean the Anglo-Saxons. Although, as someone of Polish and German descent, I’m by all appearances a whitey myself.

No you’re a honkey, now if you were from the south you’d be a red neck, and if you were French you’d be a Frog.

Now in France you’d be an Amerloque, or possibly a boche based on your German ancestry, neither being quite as bad as being a beur.

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spacetoast 10.21.04 at 5:32 am

I think I remember that Lenny Bruce advances a theory on this subject on “The Berkeley Album,” but since my stylus, is, um, fucked, I can’t confirm it. Somewhere around the “craphouse” stuff, maybe…

(Sorta) relatedly, I have always wondered how it works, the phenomenon of “issues” about speech containing homophones of slurs–I’m thinking particularly about, for instance, the notorious David Howard “niggardly” controversy…or, obviously, stuff like “gay,” etc. Someone recently even suggested to me that the phrase “a chink in the armor” was offensive to some people–although, they were definitely sincere, I’m not sure if this person wasn’t just analogizing on the paradigm of the other thing, which would be kind of weird and interesting in itself. Anyway, I’ve often wondered how exactly it happens that a slur meaning will eat up the meanings of its homophones. It seems like it tends to happen.

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Nate 10.21.04 at 5:35 am

One story I heard, though I don’t know how accurate it is, is that “fuck” was the lower-class word for sex, so with the upper class writing dictionaries etc, it naturally was put out of favor and thought of as crude etc. Which ties in sorta with a couple of the theories up above.

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spacetoast 10.21.04 at 5:40 am

Just to clarify, I didn’t mean to suggest that “gay” is a slur all by itself.

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Jackmormon 10.21.04 at 6:07 am

When I grade student papers, I have to distinguish between vulgarity, colloquialism, and “low register.” Register is I think the term to look for, since it allows the linguist to look for the policing factors. I’m guessing that Nate is on the mark about class snobbery being one way that words or phrases go from colloquial to low, or from low to vulgar.

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Jim Harrison 10.21.04 at 7:22 am

Obscene and blasphemous words retain their force by a tacit agreement between those who find it useful to outrage and those who find it useful to be outraged. It doesn’t help either side if the words are allowed to become routine as we can see in the case of words like “bloody,” which have lost their ability to shock and are now merely quaint.

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jeremy 10.21.04 at 8:06 am

I think that Jim Harrison begins to get at the reality of the situation with his talk of ‘outrage’.
Consider the Mary Chaney non-issue.
Mary Chaney is a Lesbian. Lots of people know she is a Lesbian. Dick Chaney has talked about her being a Lesbian. So why is there outrage at Kerry’s use of the word ‘Lesbian’?
Because certain people wanted there to be outrage.
Why? It allowed them to take control of the discourse. It allowed them to manipulate the way other people feel, and to condemn and shame other people.
I think this goes to the heart of the matter: ‘bad words’ are bad because they allow an elite group to establish control over those beneath them through the channelling of guild and outrage.
Short, sharp Anglo-saxon words like “fuck” and “shit” aren’t bad because they’re short and sharp, or because they allow us to give in to our ‘baser instincts. Rather, they’re bad because they’re the words used by the lower classes, and the various elites – economic, religious, academic – like to remind them that they are base and shameful and ‘not as good as us.’
There are two ways to become superior to others – one is to actual achieve something and so earn a sense of superiority, but that’s hard work. It’s much easier shove others down through shaming and prejudice.
A prime example was the American South in the first half of the last century – poor, ignorant whites may have had nothing, but at least they knew they were superior to the negros. And using words like ‘boy’ to address fully-grown black men was just one of many ways in which blacks were shamed and degraded and kept down.
Shaming behavior is very powerful – as a Jew, I continue to find it remarkable how many of my fellow Jews will not, under any circumstances, use the word Jew. Instead they use such tortured circumlocutions as “Jewish people”. Why? Because once upon a time anti-Semites (a genteel circumlocution for ‘Jew-haters”) used the word “Jew” as an epithet, so many Jews still cringe every time they hear it.
There is nothing inherently bad in “Jew”, any more than there is anything inherently bad in ‘fuck’. It’s all about shaming and controlling.

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Greg 10.21.04 at 8:12 am

Dirty words are a linguistic universal, aren’t they? Like nouns and verbs – or, a better comparison – like the way some words are marked as “verb, past tense”. Such markings are very strongly conserved (in the mind). You can easily make up a new word, but you can’t easily make up a new past tense for a verb – that would take years or generations. Similarly, you can’t easily make up a dirty word or change the “dirty” marking of an existing word. So my question is why did the brain’s language mechanism evolve the ability to handle the “dirty” marker?

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Jonathan Kulick 10.21.04 at 8:13 am

What about “pom”?

Perhaps we need a reprise of Monty Python’s “Prejudice” show:

“Well now, the result of last week’s competition when we asked you to find a derogatory term for the Belgians. Well, the response was enormous and we took quite a long time sorting out the winners. There were some very clever entries. Mrs Hatred of Leicester Said ‘let’s not call them anything, let’s iust ignore them’…

(applause starts vigorously, but he holds his hands up for silence)

…and a Mr St John of Hurtfingdou said he couldn’t think of anything more derogatory than Belgians.

(cheers and appluse; a girl in showgirl costume comes on and holds up placards through next bit)

But in the end we settled on three choices: number three … the Sprouts (placard ‘The Sprouts’) sent in by Mrs Vicious of Hastings… very nice ; number two….. the Phlegms (placard) … from Mrs Childmolester of Worthing; but the winner was undoubtedly from Mrs No-Supper-For-You from Norwood in Lancashire… Miserable Fat Belgian Bastards.
http://docweasel.com/members/05/tv/03/3709prejudic.html

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Jonathan Kulick 10.21.04 at 8:16 am

What about “pom”?

Perhaps we need a reprise of Monty Python’s “Prejudice” show:

“Well now, the result of last week’s competition when we asked you to find a derogatory term for the Belgians. Well, the response was enormous and we took quite a long time sorting out the winners. There were some very clever entries. Mrs Hatred of Leicester Said ‘let’s not call them anything, let’s iust ignore them’…

(applause starts vigorously, but he holds his hands up for silence)

…and a Mr St John of Hurtfingdou said he couldn’t think of anything more derogatory than Belgians.

(cheers and appluse; a girl in showgirl costume comes on and holds up placards through next bit)

But in the end we settled on three choices: number three … the Sprouts (placard ‘The Sprouts’) sent in by Mrs Vicious of Hastings… very nice ; number two….. the Phlegms (placard) … from Mrs Childmolester of Worthing; but the winner was undoubtedly from Mrs No-Supper-For-You from Norwood in Lancashire… Miserable Fat Belgian Bastards.
http://docweasel.com/members/05/tv/03/3709prejudic.html

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bad Jim 10.21.04 at 9:04 am

Fuck. Jim Harrison made my point for me.

Once upon a time I instituted a joke-of-the-day system for my company. After purging it of what I considered overtly sexist humor, I added back the angst and anger of the Sixties. There came the day when everybody got “Put your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.”

Nearly everybody laughed, but when they referred to it they said “butt” instead of “ass”.

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yabonn 10.21.04 at 9:11 am

Now in France you’d be an Amerloque, or possibly a boche based on your German ancestry, neither being quite as bad as being a beur.

The amerloque in the the friendly/derogatory category of rosbif, but the beur has no derogatory value at all. It’s simply the slang version for arab.

I suppose it derives from “arab” via the typical syllabe swapping of verlan slang.

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Jonathan Kulick 10.21.04 at 9:27 am

What about “pom”?

Perhaps we need a reprise of Monty Python’s “Prejudice” show:

“Well now, the result of last week’s competition when we asked you to find a derogatory term for the Belgians. Well, the response was enormous and we took quite a long time sorting out the winners. There were some very clever entries. Mrs Hatred of Leicester Said ‘let’s not call them anything, let’s iust ignore them’…

(applause starts vigorously, but he holds his hands up for silence)

…and a Mr St John of Hurtfingdou said he couldn’t think of anything more derogatory than Belgians.

(cheers and appluse; a girl in showgirl costume comes on and holds up placards through next bit)

But in the end we settled on three choices: number three … the Sprouts (placard ‘The Sprouts’) sent in by Mrs Vicious of Hastings… very nice ; number two….. the Phlegms (placard) … from Mrs Childmolester of Worthing; but the winner was undoubtedly from Mrs No-Supper-For-You from Norwood in Lancashire… Miserable Fat Belgian Bastards.
http://docweasel.com/members/05/tv/03/3709prejudic.html

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abb1 10.21.04 at 9:50 am

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Chris 10.21.04 at 9:55 am

Swear words are very interesting, psychologically, because they’re found in every culture, and they can be linguistic oddities (e.g., though they may have started out as nouns, ajectives, verbs, etc., they can be used as exclamations without any supporting structure – Fuck!). It’s almost as if they tap into some pre-verbal instinct. I know that linguists have studied them extensively, because they are odd creatures, but you’d have to ask a linguist what they’ve found. I remember Ray Jackendoff talking about them in the context of the evolution of language, as throwbacks to more primitive forms of language. I also recall (though I can’t place it) reading about the neuroscience of swearing. It’s often automatic (which is weird, for modern human language), for instance, and associated with pain, stress, or other “primitive” emotional responses, in a way that is similar to the distress calls of other modern primates.

From what I remember, there are two general types of swear words. The first consists of those swear words that are religious statements or derived from religious statements (which is actually wear “swearing” came from), but are used in inappropriate contexts. These are sacreligious, and therefore straightforwardly taboo. “Blimey” is a British example of a word derived from a religious oath that no longer looks like a religious oath (I think it was from “God blind me”).

The second type consists of words associated with body parts or bodily functions, including sexual acts (shit, ass, fuck, and the like). Since they refer to things that are taboo, it’s not surprising that they become taboo themselves, though I’m not exactly sure why some are considered vulgar while others (at least in appropriate contexts) are less so. More than likely, it depends on who says them, and whether they’re used in medical, scientific, or otherwise official contexts (e.g., vagina vs. pussy or cunt).

I wonder if “Holy Shit” is a fusion of the two types?

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Jonathan Kulick 10.21.04 at 9:59 am

What about “pom”?

Perhaps we need a reprise of Monty Python’s “Prejudice” show:

“Well now, the result of last week’s competition when we asked you to find a derogatory term for the Belgians. Well, the response was enormous and we took quite a long time sorting out the winners. There were some very clever entries. Mrs Hatred of Leicester Said ‘let’s not call them anything, let’s iust ignore them’…

(applause starts vigorously, but he holds his hands up for silence)

…and a Mr St John of Hurtfingdou said he couldn’t think of anything more derogatory than Belgians.

(cheers and appluse; a girl in showgirl costume comes on and holds up placards through next bit)

But in the end we settled on three choices: number three … the Sprouts (placard ‘The Sprouts’) sent in by Mrs Vicious of Hastings… very nice ; number two….. the Phlegms (placard) … from Mrs Childmolester of Worthing; but the winner was undoubtedly from Mrs No-Supper-For-You from Norwood in Lancashire… Miserable Fat Belgian Bastards.
http://docweasel.com/members/05/tv/03/3709prejudic.html

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chris 10.21.04 at 10:56 am

There’s a widespread meme in Britain that there are no swear words in Japanese. I have no idea if it’s true: if it’s false, does it constitute a negative racial stereotype?

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John Kozak 10.21.04 at 11:30 am

The idea that swearing is a fossil of a prior mode of language has long been a pet theory of mine (e.g. because swear-words don’t stop being swear-words when quoted) – nice to see it’s got heavyweight backing! The bit I remember about the neurology here is that, apparently, PET scans show that swear-words are processed in a different part of the brain to normal language

abb1: that Beeb site is mildly amusing but hopelessly inaccurate.

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John Kozak 10.21.04 at 11:34 am

The idea that swearing is a fossil of a prior mode of language has long been a pet theory of mine (e.g. because swear-words don’t stop being swear-words when quoted) – nice to see it’s got heavyweight backing! The bit I remember about the neurology here is that, apparently, PET scans show that swear-words are processed in a different part of the brain to normal language

abb1: that Beeb site is mildly amusing but hopelessly inaccurate.

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John Kozak 10.21.04 at 11:35 am

sorry about the double post – got a server error the first time, so resent.

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Jonathan Kulick 10.21.04 at 11:37 am

What about “pom”?

Perhaps we need a reprise of Monty Python’s “Prejudice” show:

“Well now, the result of last week’s competition when we asked you to find a derogatory term for the Belgians. Well, the response was enormous and we took quite a long time sorting out the winners. There were some very clever entries. Mrs Hatred of Leicester Said ‘let’s not call them anything, let’s iust ignore them’…

(applause starts vigorously, but he holds his hands up for silence)

…and a Mr St John of Hurtfingdou said he couldn’t think of anything more derogatory than Belgians.

(cheers and appluse; a girl in showgirl costume comes on and holds up placards through next bit)

But in the end we settled on three choices: number three … the Sprouts (placard ‘The Sprouts’) sent in by Mrs Vicious of Hastings… very nice ; number two….. the Phlegms (placard) … from Mrs Childmolester of Worthing; but the winner was undoubtedly from Mrs No-Supper-For-You from Norwood in Lancashire… Miserable Fat Belgian Bastards.
http://docweasel.com/members/05/tv/03/3709prejudic.html

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Ethesis 10.21.04 at 12:05 pm

And in the United States, there’s always “cracker” — which is offensive as can be (and a word I learned this year from hearing it in someone else’s discourse).

Though it ties several of the above threads together nicely, except the one about Belgians (who I always thought of as rather nice people, though I’ve only been through Belgium once).

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Jeremy Osner 10.21.04 at 1:38 pm

Yes, what about “Pom”?

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Keith 10.21.04 at 2:05 pm

Ayjay’s answer is pretty close to what I would surmise as well but I’d check Lakoff’s Women, Fire and Dangerous Things for a technical answer. I seem to remember running across this subject between its pages when I was reading that book for a linguistics course I took last Spring.

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Gabriel Rossman 10.21.04 at 2:09 pm

As to the original post’s idea that American dialects have no slurs for the English, I reccomend you read the letters the Guardian got back in response to its Clark county pen pal program.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1329858,00.html

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Keith 10.21.04 at 2:16 pm

I meant Paul Anderson’s rtesponse, not ayjay’s (as lovely as it is for mentioning george Carlin).

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Uncle Kvetch 10.21.04 at 2:36 pm

Now in France you’d be an Amerloque,

The more current term is “Ricain,” although “Amerloque” is still used.

the beur has no derogatory value at all. It’s simply the slang version for arab. I suppose it derives from “arab” via the typical syllabe swapping of verlan slang.

It does.

“Beur” took on a definite political connotation in the 80s–it was used specifically to refer to 2nd generation Arab-French youth and their emerging politicization. It’s somewhat dated today, and in my research on French slang I found that it had been largely supplanted among younger speakers by “Reubeu”–which is the verlan of Beur, and thus a case of “double verlan.”

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bitchphd 10.21.04 at 2:49 pm

Random hypothesis: Swear words of the defecation/sex variety aren’t just prudishness–they’re “bad” because, spoken, they bring into public things that we think of as private activities. The same could be said of racist language, I suppose. Racial slurs publicly acknowledge (or imply) privately-held racist beliefs, which is why in some groups (groups that deny, truthfully or not, that they hold those beliefs) the language is more shocking than in other groups (groups that don’t deny they hold those beliefs).

It doesn’t quite explain “bitch,” though. Am tempted to make very self-serving joke about bitch being in a class by itself, but I shall skip it.

Oh, and on the question of American slurs against the English: ponce, I think, hasn’t been mentioned yet. As to broader slurs against “Anglos” (i.e., whites), no one’s mentioned ofay, either.

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dennisS 10.21.04 at 3:22 pm

Heh-heh, heh-heh, heh-heh. You said homophone.

The bit about swearing being a fossil of a prior mode of language is interesting and reminded me of a fun piece of humor in a New Yorker magazine where the writer explained he’s figured out dog language and then translates his dog’s speech when the mailman visits. It goes; “fuck you, damn, damn, damn, god damn it, fuck you, fuck you, damn, damn, damn…” and so on. I’m pretty sure that’s what the dog next door is saying to me.

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dennisS 10.21.04 at 3:29 pm

PS. I had to resort to IE to get my comment posted. Several careful Firefox attempts never appeared unless somehow they’re still working their way thru the system and will appear later a la “pom”.

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jamie 10.21.04 at 4:59 pm

I heard that Finnish was the language in which there were no swear words.

I also heard that the French now refer to us Brits as “les fuckoffs”, in testament to our general charm and good diction. It seems to wrap up the whole idea of swearing, insults and otherness nicely.

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Zizka 10.21.04 at 5:14 pm

Couldn’t read everything, but —

In Catholic countries the bad words tend to be Catholic related. This includes some literature, such as Rabelais and Flann O’Brien. Usually in Rabelais the curses are euphemized. “Zounds” and “Sblood” are euphemized Catholic curses in English.

Whereas Protestants tend toward physiology.

I think that taboo words become so from the intention of the user to offend. For example, a Jewish woman I know is not offended by “bitch”, a word she uses, but doesn’t even accept “cunt” in an ironic or critical context. She feels the same about the word “kike”, whereas the word “hebe” is used jokingly by a Jewish blogger. I think that she feels that the two words are inherintly hostile to all Jews or women.

Thresholds of offense are very low among very proper people. EG, the tabooing of “leg” and “breast” when referring to chicken meat, or the the tabooing of “heck” and “darn” among serious Christians.

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Rob G 10.21.04 at 6:24 pm

Yabonn and Uncle Kvetch; is the origin of “Beur” certain? I would have thought “Berber” could be a source, as many North Africans are Berbers.

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dop 10.21.04 at 7:00 pm

There’s a widespread meme in Britain that there are no swear words in Japanese. I have no idea if it’s true: if it’s false, does it constitute a negative racial stereotype?

There are words in Japanese that aren’t said in polite company; for example kuso, usually translated as “excrement”. In my experience, there aren’t so many specific words that are considered in-and-of-themselves foul, but nevertheless there are things you just don’t say in certain places and times (the above comments about register may apply here). A friend of mine (female, learning Japanese from her boyfriend) once said in front of a Japanese instructor, “hara-heta“, which really only means “I’m hungry”, but it’s very low register and the instructor was displeased.

Didn’t the infamous Washoe “invent” some swearing — refering to people she didn’t like as “shitty” (using the hand sign for excrement)?

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dop 10.21.04 at 7:05 pm

(Oops, forgot to close my blockquote. Hope this helps…

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yabonn 10.21.04 at 8:47 pm

rob g:

I really think it’s the verlan explanation. Berberes are present, but not a majority, and they like to enphasize that arab and berbere (tamazigh to them) are not the same.

Too, the phonetical transition from berbere to beur doesn’t really flow.

About les fuckoff : not heard this one, too complicated for a serious contender to “les rosbifs” or “les angliches”, that are still the real friendly/derogatory things, as in “qu’est ce qu’ils ont été foutre en irak, les rosbifs?”. But i digress.

On an aside, french slang is indeed a real, big, subject.

It has now pretty much gone, but even jobs had their ones. Thiefs slang, what-have-you-slang and my grandpa even picked the butchers slang (useless except he was always very well served by the impressed corner butcher). Verlan is now all over the place, to the point it is sometimes “squared” as uncle kvetch mentioned. Add to that the occasionnal arab word, or the weird resurected outdated french word.

More generally, i feel common words in french are very often doubled with a slangish equivalent, more so than in english, though my ignorance of the language explain that.

That said, best curses are, of course from captain haddock, with ubu not far behind.

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yabonn 10.21.04 at 8:53 pm

Yes i know, it’s not really swearing.

Anyways, it’s worth it.

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harry 10.21.04 at 9:08 pm

I thught ‘teabag’ meant homosexual, and was a very clever and complex use of rhyming slang. But then I’ve only heard it used toward english homosexuals, so I was obviously missing the point. But it has never struck me as a slur.

Pom, sure, can be a sort-of-insult, but only from antipodean.
You can try to insult a brit by calling them a ‘limey’. But I think you’ll fail. Imagine someone trying to acheive against a Brit with ‘limey’ what someone else might try to achieve against a Black American with ‘N*****r’. There just isn’t the conventional context to achieve it. The Australians at least manage to be better at everything we compete with them at, which helps them achieve some sort of insult. But again, ‘pom’ can be extremely freindly coming from an Australian; I don’t think that “n*****r’ can be friendly from a white American.

So, I hold to my thesis that there are no truly bad words for Brits in American english.

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DLacey 10.21.04 at 10:00 pm

Reading the above, I would combine the “use associated with emotional triggers/taboos” and the “use comes from another part of the brain” and suggest that it might be that by long use to evoke strong emotions, the word becomes an emotional trigger, and therefore becomes a taboo itself… and the fact that religion and excretion and sex are the three main areas that create this emotional trigger is interesting also.

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Uncle Kvetch 10.21.04 at 10:55 pm

rob g: I’m with yabonn, I think it’s pretty much the consensus view among those who study these things that “Beur” is a verlan variant of “Arabe.”

More generally, i feel common words in french are very often doubled with a slangish equivalent, more so than in english, though my ignorance of the language explain that.

I’ve never encountered scholarly corroboration for this (and g_d knows I’ve read enough on the subject), but that’s my unscientific impression too. I remember a French guy going over his body from head to toe and giving nonstandard variants for virtually every body part and item of clothing. Just the fact that there are several slang/nonstandard terms for “shoes,” for instance–the now archaic “godasses” and the more current “pompes”–when we have no real equivalent in American English.

Oh, and bitchphd: I’ve never heard an American utter the word “ponce,” unless they were reproducing British speech. I think of that word as strictly English English.

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vernaculo 10.21.04 at 10:57 pm

Interesting that people feel comfortable using “fuck” and “cunt” and “bitch” here, but not “nigger”.
“Nigger” is a bad word, but not a swear word. It isn’t used to vent frustration or express surprise, or for emphasis.
The swear words I know of in english are either spiritual or sexual/elimination terms.
It’s fascinating that the censors of American TV won’t allow the word “fuck” but they will allow “damn” and “hell”. The power base for that censorship purports to believe that hell is a place of eternal damnation, and at the same time that children are the most sacred of us all. Yet the act which brings children into the world is dirty somehow. Hmm.
The original question was “why?”, though, not “what?”.
I think a case could be made for the social control of sexual identity creating a taboo around explicit words. So that the veiled awareness of sex and sexual parts is echoed in the veiled language.
Certainly the establishment of sexual taboos in the prepubescent is easier than it would be in the ragingly hormonal adolescent. Kids accept the taboos along with the rules of traffic and how to work the microwave. It’s just how things are. Consequently the rise of sexual identity comes through a filter of judgment and prohibition, a “wrongness” that’s already established before there was any sexuality to judge.
This pits the teenager against herself/himself. The normal natural feelings they have are vaguely or specifically wrong, the shortest natural words to describe those feelings and the acts that charge them take on that taint of wrongness, and using those words directly without smirking or giggling puts the user outside the taboo cordon sanitaire.
Naming the act and the parts of the body involved without genuflecting toward the operative prohibitions makes the namer an outlaw of sorts.
The remnants of medieval religious dominance in the “drat/darn/damn/goddamn” hierarchy are the spiritual analog of that. Both taboo areas being generated by social control of essential human interfaces.
Sex and God, what else is there? Food?
The words become bad because using them means you don’t honor the institutionalized sacredness of the things they name, or conversely, its profaneness.
Sexual taboo has been used as a device for social control for millenia.
The idea that in the “afterlife” sinners will be punished for all eternity – “damned” – is another very effective way of controlling large groups, an unimpeachable back-up threat for moral codes and regulations.
Using the words “God-damn” and “hell” lightly means you don’t believe the threat, or don’t take it seriously, which means you’re a threat in turn to theocratic social order. That’s why these blasphemies no longer sting – we don’t have theocratic control over us anymore.
It’s sexual control now. This is why you can show the shooting and stabbing and dismemberment of human beings on television, you can sell a billion dollars worth of computer games that are nothing but virtual killing sprees, but you can’t show a man and woman making love to each other.
Sex is how we’re chained together now, so sex terms that don’t acknowledge the taboos are an act of rebellion.
A hammer slip that smashes a thumb puts the hammerer outside the social order for a moment, and he demonstrates this with a “curse”. The absurdity of yelling “shit” when your pain receptors overload is balanced by the satisfaction of removing yourself from the ranks of the obedient, a return to the cradle and the summoning cry, an insistence on the primacy of the self, above and outside the needs of social order.

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Diablevert 10.21.04 at 11:50 pm

Hmmm. Seems to me like some of y’all are overthinking a bit on the bad words query — bad words are bad becuase they’re the words for the worst things we can think of. We call upon them when we wish to curse — when we desire deiliberately to be offensive and hurtful, and to express strong emotion (by breaking a taboo). I don’t think it’s “uptight” to not want to hear them; it is the simple fact that there are gradations in discourse — a diffrence between the words we use in polite company and those we don’t — that gives them power. To deprive them of power by overuse is actually to limit the amount of emotion that can be expressed in language. As long as shit stinks and motherfuckin’ ain’t right, you’ll need words to express your extreme discomfiture with those things.

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Tadhgin 10.22.04 at 12:55 am

Re: “Nigger” vs. “Limey” or “Pom”

Remember that in Oz when they want to say something bad you will be a Pommie Bastard – changing the meaning of Pom.

Irish have been called Paddy and Mick but never abandoned these as names. Although when used by, say Airport police at Heathrow, it is clearly insulting, in general Irish people will have no problem with the idea that the are Micks or Paddies and don’t often find themselves in a context where it is insulting (not least because today they are likely to feel superior to the English or Americans)

In Northern Ireland however the name used as typical for Catholics was Taig and is now considered quite an insult – probably comparable with Nigger. The thing is this only happened in the North of Ireland and in the South the name continued to be used (even if not an awful lot and it is pronounced a little differently). So there was nothing unusual in my being given this name when I was born. Now I live in Belfast and I have had a few experiences of good protestants not wanting to say my name because they feel that it is a bad word. (Catholics who have more contact with the south have no problems and just use the name)

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Justin 10.22.04 at 1:42 am

Hi I’m the student that originally asked the question of professor Brighouse and I would like to add my thoughts to this blog. When I asked the question I had in mind the seven dirty words that the FEC will not allow anybody to utter on television or radio. Harry mentioned that the question arose because we were talking about hate speech in class. Well I hate to admit it but that was just wishful thinking on his part. The truth is this thought occurred to me because a friend had me listen to the George Carlin comedy skit “seven dirty words.”
I think that to get at the heart of this matter we must first think about how children come to swear words. I remember one day during the first grade a friend of mine taught me a song that had the word dick and asshole in it. I didn’t know what those words meant but I started singing the song with him because he seemed to enjoy singing it. Well eventually a teacher heard us and sent us to the principal’s office. I remember that I was asked to come into the office to talk to the principal by myself. By this time I was very frightened. I was a good kid and had never been sent to the principal’s office before. A few times I had gotten my name put on the blackboard with a check mark next to it for talking in class, but I had never done anything that could get me sent to the principal’s office. What was worst of all was that I didn’t even know what I had done wrong. The principal sat me down and asked me if I knew what those words meant. I told him I didn’t. He then told me something to the effect of “those are bad words and we don’t say them because they hurt people’s feelings.” I agreed to never again say those words and was allowed to go back to class unpunished. Well, mostly unpunished. The principal did call my mother to tell about what had happened. I was very scared that the principal had to call my mother but when I got home she said the same things the principal had said and I wasn’t punished.
The point is that I think the main reason people are discouraged from using those words is that they are simply unpleasant. They embody a thought that some would rather not think about. For example as “bad jim” pointed out people seem to be more comfortable with butt than ass. That brings us to the question why? Well to answer why lets first look at the definition of both words.
According to Merriam-Webster online the word butt; in the way we mean it, is short for buttocks, which means: “1. The back of a hip that forms one of the fleshy parts on which a person sits. 2. The seat of the body.” Those are the only two definitions for the word buttock. It seems that the general connotation of the word is such that we use it to objectively describe something rather than to assign value.
Now lets look at the definition of ass. It is commonly used as a noun meaning a stupid, obstinate, perverse person or as synonym to buttocks. It seems to me that people use the word ass instead of butt because they know that ass will convey a sense of vulgarity better than butt will. It all goes back to the reason we use words in the first place. Words are nothing more than symbols we use to convey ideas to each other. Swear words are used simply because we know that they will convey some offensiveness that other words will not.
Still that leaves the question, “Why exactly are words that are synonymous with certain bodily functions the most offensive?” I’m not exactly sure how to answer that but I will say that it seems odd that we are more offended by the statement “Hitler was an asshole” than the statement “Hitler systematically killed millions of Jewish people to empower himself.”

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Thersites 10.22.04 at 4:31 am

The way to think about this is via baseball.

The “magic word” in baseball is “motherfucker.” Whatever you’re bitching to the ump about, that word will get you thrown out of the game.

The referent & content of the word, note, is not relevant. Yell “you have intercourse with your maternal parent” will not evince more than a suspicious glare. Try it!

No, obscenities are more or less arbitrary determinants who is in & who is out of a given discursive social situation.

Fuck yeah!

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Chris 10.22.04 at 5:50 am

Justin,

It’s interesting to note that swear words that referred to bodily functions/parts or sexual acts only became swear words in the last 500 or so years (at leats in the west). Prior to that, almost all taboo words had religious connotations. Swearing, in essence, consisted of swearing to God (or gods) in inappropriate contexts. Something about Victorian and Protestant concepts of depravity, however, turned things around.

It’s probably not a coinincidence that swear words are also referred to as “vulgar.” The words that became swear words, as opposed to official or accepted terms, were often the words of the common people.

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Jonathan Kulick 10.22.04 at 9:07 am

Ummm, sorry about the multiple posts yesterday. Yes, I read the admonishment _not_ to hit “Post” more than once and to be patient, but my browser (Opera) insisted that it had received no reply from CT–zero bits–and then disconnected. Now I know not to believe everything I read on the web…

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Sharon 10.22.04 at 9:47 am

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David Tiley 10.22.04 at 1:50 pm

“Pongo” is an offensive Australian term for the English.

I presume it refers to smell and the Australian belief that the English don’t wash enough.

We do of course have many more taboo words to denigrate Aborigines.

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yabonn 10.22.04 at 3:37 pm

several slang/nonstandard terms for “shoes,” for instance—the now archaic “godasses” and the more current “pompes”

.. and “godillots”, “grolles” or “pataugas” (originally a brand) or again “ecrase-merde” or “rangeos”.

Shoes are a good example. I’m sure i could find other more outdated equivalents, if i could only put my hands on my “petit simonin illustré” (yes, there are even slang dictionnaries).

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digamma 10.22.04 at 9:15 pm

Bad words in English come from Anglo-Saxon. Their equivalents from Latin are nearly all appropriate in polite conversation. Discuss.

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snit 10.23.04 at 5:15 am

Hi Justin,

When I was a grad student, I was an assistant to a prof who was very proper and very intimidating. Looked like Karl Marx with slightly tamer hair.

A month into the semester, he’d opened a lecture by screaming, “Eat Shit!” at everyone. He then launched into a lecture on the sacred and profane, linking it up to the way societies tend to creating dualistic systems of norms (tacit rules that guide our behavior) and sanction against violating those norms (taboos).

How do you see a norm. By breaking it. A prof who says “Eat shit” is violating an implicit norm that governs the classroom. Plenty of profs swear–I had several who said fuck. But what he did was tell his students to “eat shit.”

As someone else pointed out, taboo words are also called swearing or profanity. They didn’t always refer to body parts or bodily functions. Swearing is taking something sacred and making it profane.

So why is cunt offensive? Dickhead? Motherfucker? Dicks. Cunts. Fucking. Ordinary, everyday, human things.
How is saying “shit” taking something sacred and making it profane? As someone suggested, the words reflect private activities.

Yes, and what is really going on is that they’ve become private because social organization and technology have created a world in which they *can* be. What these taboo words point at is note just privacy, but the individual and the ideal of individualism that has been made possible by a complex, technological sophisticated society that has made privacy–and thusour individualistic sense of self–possible at all.

In our liberal (lower case l) enlightenment world, the individual is sacred. Can you think of anyone who would tell you they aren’t an individual? Very few, if any.

We no longer worship a shared god. We do, however, worship the individual. I don’t mean that we are a bunch of eogists. Rather, we worship the very _idea_ of the individual — separateness, uniqueness, distinction, difference, independence.

A lot of the Victorian prudishness is related in to the privacy issue since the Victorian era is also famous for institutionalizing what is called the separation of spheres. The family and all things related to family life (like sex) were supposed to be shielded from the cold, cruel, heartless world of politics and work.

Anyway, end of lecture and a far too wordy, rambling post, off the top of my head post, but your prof asked for a lecture to make him look smart. :)

I haven’t taught this stuff in years and it’s late, so I hope I’m making sense.

snit

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Greg 10.24.04 at 12:23 am

I’ve heard that the reason swear words are swear words is because of the Norman conquest. The French came to England and took over society, essentially becoming “high society”. They were the lawyers and doctors and government types. This affects our language to this day. Nowadays, when you want to sound fancy and high-falutin’ you use a word dervide from Latin or French instead of one with Anglo-Saxon origins. “Utilize” instead of “Use” or “Demonstrate” instead of “show.” This gets into swearing because the French doctors coined the clinical terms that are acceptable to use “Defecate”, “Urinate”, and “Copulate”, instead of “shit”, “piss”, and “fuck”. Before the Norman Conquest these were normal everyday, non-shocking terms, but in high society, anyone using the Anglo-Saxon terms was considered low class.

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