This is the second in a very occasional series of posts discussing the following proposition: in the English-speaking world, the last 50 years has seen a dramatic increase in the quantity and quality of text and visual mass media intended for children. The first post, on kids’ animated cartoons, is here.
As noted in that post, “intended for children” here means mass media particularly targeting children aged 4-12 as the primary audience. So, Disney movies are included here, while the original Star Wars movies are not. Kids absolutely watched Star Wars — I watched it as a kid — but they weren’t the primary audience. Stuff aimed at the youngest children is excluded here, as is Young Adult stuff. (I agree that the boundaries of the latter category are very slippery.) Movies means movies in theaters, not including TV movies or straight-to-video stuff.
So then: from the early 1970s to the late 1980s, movies for children were generally mediocre to bad. There were individual works that were good or excellent, but not many; and the average was dismally low. And the quality was not much better at the end of this period than at the beginning.
But starting in the back half of the 1980s, kids movies suddenly started getting better, and then around 1995 they started getting very good indeed. The period 1970-1986 was a dark age for kid’s movies; the period 1995-2012 (0r so) was an astonishing age of gold. There was a massive cultural transformation here, and it happened fairly quickly.
One big driver of this was the Disney Renaissance. This is well known — there are books about it — but the TLDR is that, for reasons beyond the scope of this blog post, Disney suddenly went from making mediocre animated films that nobody much cared about and that didn’t make much money (Bedknobs and Broomsticks, The Fox And The Hound, The Black Cauldron, The Great Mouse Detective, Oliver And Company) to making animated films that were good to excellent, hugely successful, and in some cases have become part of the shared cultural database: The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Mulan, Beauty and the Beast, Hercules, The Lion King. (And also Who Framed Roger Rabbit — Disney was and is ambivalent about that one, because reasons, but it was Disney owned and Disney produced.)
— At this point in the conversation there’s always That One Guy who says oh come on Bedknobs and Broomsticks had Angela Lansbury and I *loved* The Black Cauldron as a kid! Which, fine, but its IMDB score is 6.3 and it has 56% on Rotten Tomatoes, and it was a commercial and critical flop at the time. So don’t bring that stuff unless you have numbers to back it.
Anyway: there’s a complex backstory to why Disney animation suddenly stopped sucking, and you can look it up if you like. It involves a cast of bigger-than-life characters (Don Bluth, Roy Disney, Jeffrey Katzenberg) and has a twisty plot line involving everything from personal grudges to failed corporate takeovers. But the key point here is that very suddenly, starting in 1987 and continuing thereafter, Disney started making animated movies for kids that were actually good.
But then for almost a decade — 1987 to 1995 — Disney was producing good animated movies for kids, and Disney was pretty much the /only/ one producing good animated movies for kids. Others were trying, but… DuckTales the Movie, FernGully, Quest for Camelot, Thumbelina, Rock-a-Doodle, The Land Before Time: yeah no. Pixar was still in beta, Don Bluth was flailing. If you’re looking for good animated movies for kids from this period, it’s basically Disney, some early Miyazaki, An American Tail and maybe The Nightmare Before Christmas. And that’s about it.
But then Pixar comes online in 1995 with Toy Story, and pow: that’s when stuff really gets going. Disney was going from strength to strength during this period — Lion King, Hercules, Mulan, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin — but now you could also go see The Iron Giant or A Bug’s Life or Toy Story 2 or even Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, an animated Batman movie that was better than most of the live-action ones. And suddenly people were animating classic kids’ books like Stuart Little and James and the Giant Peach, and these adaptations didn’t suck! Dreamworks shows up late in the decade and while their first offerings (Antz, Prince of Egypt, The Road to El Dorado) weren’t top-tier, they were still vastly better than the stuff that was around before 1987. And now there were these these things from “Studio Ghibli” (are they Italian?) — that had been big in Japan for years, but just now got released to the wider world? My Neighbor… Toto? Is that an Oz thing? Kiki’s Delivery Service?
In sum: there’s an inflection point for this stuff in the mid-1990s, and it’s very sharp.
And it wasn’t just animated films. The generational-marker non-animated kids film of the early 1980s? Is there one? The Goonies, maybe? The Dark Crystal or The Never-Ending Story if your definition of kid stuff includes severe psychological damage? Maybe one of the early Muppet movies, or E.T., if you’re willing to stretch a point?
Ten years later: Babe, Free Willy, Homeward Bound, Home Alone, The Sandlot, The Mighty Ducks, The Little Princess, The Witches, Matilda, Jumanji, the two best Muppet movies… 1990s kids were starved for choice compared to their older cousins.
But then it got better! If you were a kid in the 2000s? Let’s take a deep breath…
Animated: Finding Nemo, Lilo and Stitch, Wall-E, Ice Age, Up, Kung Fu Panda, Happy Feet, Ratatouille, Shrek, Shrek 2, The Emperor’s New Groove, The Princess and the Frog, Polar Express, Madagascar, like five great Miyazakis, Cars, Toy Story 3, The Incredibles, Flushed Away, How To Train Your Dragon, Tangled… It just goes on and on.
Pause a moment and look at that list again. There are at least five movies on that list that people will put on a Top 5 list of Greatest Animated Movies Of All Time. There are a bunch of movies that are just really good movies, kid stuff notwithstanding.
And even the B-tier stuff was good. Disney flops like Atlantis: The Lost Empire and Treasure Planet? Still much better than anything Disney was doing between 1970 and 1987! Weak-ish Miyazakis like Ponyo and Arrietty? Still Miyazaki, still good! Odd, half-forgotten Disney experiments like Bolt, Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons? Still interesting and totally worth watching! Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit is the weakest of the Wallace and Gromit films. It’s still super creative wacky fun!
Did you ever see Over the Hedge, The Tale of Despereaux, Chicken Run, or Rio? Firmly secondary at the time, mostly forgotten today. But Despereaux is actually a wonderful little movie, Chicken Run is solid Aardman madness, the animation on Rio still kicks 20 years later and if Over The Hedge had come out in 1984 it would be remembered as a massive, game-changing instant classic.
Even if you go down to D-tier, throwaway stuff and flops like Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron? That dumb little movie has a rocking soundtrack by Bryan Adams and Matt Damon as the voice of Spirit. Osmosis Jones? Bill Murray, with voice work by Chris Rock, Laurence Fishburne, and William Shatner as the corrupt Mayor. Monsters vs. Aliens is pretty slight, but it might be worth watching just for Hugh Laurie as Dr. Cockroach. Shark Tale has Will Smith and Robert de Niro, for goodness’ sake. Suddenly animated kids movies were attracting serious star talent.
Good lord, there were a dozen animated Barbie movies in the 2000s and ‘teens, and they… weren’t horrible! (I know, because I had a seven year old who watched a bunch of them.) Simple fun plots, basic but decent animation, okay musical numbers, and the occasional sly wink for the parents. They were there to sell toys, but they were so much less awful than they should have been.
Non-animated? Not quite the same explosion of riches, but still much more than a generation earlier: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Elf, Enchanted, Ella Enchanted, Madeline, Holes, seven! Harry Potter movies, Night at the Museum… there was a lot going on there, too.
I could trace this forward into the teens, but I’ll teal deer it: the tide receded a bit in the following decade. Still a lot of good stuff, but not quite the explosion of riches there were from the late 90s to the early teens. It’s possible that my judgment may be skewed; my kids stopped watching kid movies not long after this. My youngest is a teenager now, and if she’s not rewatching Gilmore Girls she wants to binge Attack on Titan or Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure. But when I look at the best kids’ movies from 2017 or 2019 or 2022… there’s plenty of great stuff (Inside Out! Coco! The Lego Movie! ) but not quite the relentless drumbeat of top-quality content there was 15 or 20 years earlier.
Why?
I don’t know! Nobody seems to know!
I mean, we do know why the Disney Renaissance happened. But why was it followed — after a delay of nearly a decade — by an explosion of great movies for kids that continued for a generation or so? And then why, after fifteen or twenty years or so, did that somewhat slacken? And why did that explosion take place at roughly the same time as an explosion of great kids’ cartoons, kids’ books, and kids’ TV, at least in the English-speaking world?
I don’t know. I lived through it, but I don’t understand it.
Comments welcome.
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Trader Joe 04.25.25 at 10:41 am
Thanks for the post.
In my opinion, and you touched on it, there were two big drivers. First and most important was the use of computers and later the early iterations of CGI. The early Disney releases you mention Beauty and the Beast, Little mermaid etc. were the first to use computers to massively accelerate the production of animated cels. It speeded the time to production and brought down the cost which allowed for a greater ability to enhance the quality at the same delivered price.
To be clear, it wasn’t yet CGI. The computers weren’t doing the drawing, but the computers were facilitating the drawing that was done by humans. There are millions of cels in an animated feature and rather than having to draw each one the software facilitated making the subtle revisions that result in the motion that we see. Rewatch them and you can actually see that they sorta dumbed down some of the background relative to even older animated movies to facilitate this process.
The other ‘big’ driver was well known voice talent. Actual stars chose to voice many of these movies and it raised production values because those stars didn’t want their voices associated with crap.
Just my opinion, but I too had children in the ‘golden age’ you spoke about and agree 100% the quality during that era was outstanding. I look forward to eventually rewatching these with grandchildren (someday).
Supergreen 04.25.25 at 11:09 am
Could it be home video and DVD sales created more of a market for kids stuff? Kids, more than anyone love to rewatch their favorite movies and it’s way easier to park them in front of tv at home than to take them to the theater or have them watch television with commercials.
Then post 2012 you have streaming? So people aren’t paying per movie for a physical copy and kids aren’t determining as much what service adults are picking?
Matt 04.25.25 at 11:40 am
I don’t really think “Babe” is a kids movie (certainly it’s sequal, “Babe: Beyond Thunderdome”, or whatever it was called wasn’t), but I would argue it’s an all-time great movie. Certainly it’s a lot better than a lot of the garbage that’s listed as “good” here is!
Also, at first I was confused between Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron and Spirited Away, and kept waiting, when watching the later, for there to somehow be a horse involved. No horse, and yet, a really great movie.
Aardvark Cheeselog 04.25.25 at 2:16 pm
So it is always with this kind of thing. Why was Northern Europe such a hotbed of genius in instrumental music composition in the late 17th century? Why, a hundred years later, did the American colonies have such a wealth of political philosophers?
There are never answers to questions like that, just plausible speculation at best.
Colin R 04.25.25 at 5:20 pm
I think basically the way we watch screens changed, and so what we are watching changed too. My young son still enjoys Cars, and he liked going to the Minecraft movie, but it’s hard for movies to hold his attention. When I watch something like Cars I’m really pretty bemused by what KIDS are supposed to get out of it; so many Pixar movies are full of things (nostalgia for childhood, anxiety about getting old) that really are intended for the adult audiences.
Twenty years ago though, there was still a need to make movies that entertained the whole family, because going to the movies was a family event and you didn’t want the adults in the audience to be bored to tears. Now, film runs are really just promotional events before a movie goes streaming. Since entertainment is atomized, everyone watching their own personal screens, there’s less need to please everyone anymore. The Minecraft movie might not be for grown-ups but it’s going to find its intended audience anyway.
bekabot 04.25.25 at 6:50 pm
“there’s always That One Guy who says oh come on Bedknobs and Broomsticks had Angela Lansbury and I loved The Black Cauldron as a kid””
I’m going to be That Old Lady for The Fox And The Hound. I saw it as an adult and liked it as an adult and I still like it. Not gonna blush. The movie is not ashamed to grapple with a problem which might be insoluble: people and creatures can basically be the same kind of thing with the same basic requirements — in the movie Tod and Copper are both canines — but the ways in which they’re raised and the things they’re raised for and the forces which control them (the way Amos controls Copper) are not necessarily going to let them just get along. This is not something kids’ movies usually expect kids to realize, and the same might be said about movies which are made for adults. What’s happening now, to my own dismay, to movies for kids (and the same might be said about movies which are made for adults) is that the opposite tendency is on the rise: the goal seems to get the viewers to mainline on pure visual bliss and to thrust all other questions to the side.
This is not a completely accurate statement, I know, but to me it seems to be the direction in which the movies are now headed — the visual bliss direction. Which is about what you’d expect in an era which is subject to political dislocations, the way this one is. Visual bliss on its own is anodyne and stirs few pots and doesn’t offend many viewers. Not many people want to vote against it or identify its creators as fiends.
Cranky Observer 04.25.25 at 8:26 pm
For the 1975-1985ish period we also have to take into account the made-for-TV After School Specials, which were lightweight but often included topics that were considered sensitive at the time (e.g. divorce).
bekabot 04.25.25 at 9:15 pm
You’re right about the after-school specials, and I’m pretty sure you’re also right when you hint that The Fox And The Hound was made in the same tradition, except that it was more elaborate and maybe half again as long. (I saw lots of those when I was an actual kid. I was about 19 when The Fox And The Hound came out.) The after-school special tradition was not a tradition which was destined to win out. They tried but they tried too hard, and their ultimate fate was to end up among the class of uncool cultural artifacts which are so humiliating that the medium which birthed them ends up pretending that they don’t exist. The Fox And The Hound is probably in the same category, but I’ve liked it for my entire adult life, and I’m not about to quit now. There’s a good deal in there which a finicky person might object to, but then I’m not a finicky person, and besides, for reasons I’ve already partially stated, movies which amount to a light show hung on the whittled-down bones of a plot can’t be objectionable because they come as close as they can to being innocent of content altogether. But, enough grousing. IMO really liking something in many ways comes down to seeing it at the right time, and there’s no way a person can control that.
Philip Wilson 04.25.25 at 10:01 pm
I was a little kid when The Fox and the Hound came out. I think I had merch–a lunchbox? And yes, I think After-School Specials, and their relatives, Very Special Episodes, were good things artistically and culturally.
That sort of Bluthy, oddly furry, era of Disney that gave us Robin Hood, The Rescuers, and various projects about cartoon dogs, actually was something to those of us who were kids back then, even if the stories could be thin. I’m not sure the idea of the Disney Renaissance isn’t really mainly marketing; one, to cover over some company politics after Bluth left Disney, and two, to hype up the Mouse as opposed to Dreamworks, Bluth’s later projects, and so on.
Edward Gregson 04.26.25 at 6:16 am
Maybe look for a climate of experimentalism in the years preceding the boom? I in no way have rigorous data to back this up, but as I recall Watership Down and some other animated movies by that director came out in the 70s, plus explicitly adult stuff like Fritz the Cat. These were utterly unsuitable as kids’ movies but did indicate a certain ambition for the medium that might have later been calibrated by other studios to produce the success stories. You also have the influx of anime starting in the 1980s for the very plugged in that probably cross-pollinated the milieus.
Doug Muir 04.26.25 at 6:29 am
Trader Joe @1, technological changes in production maybe… but remember, there was a First Golden Age of kids’ animation, all those Disney movies from the 1930s and 40s plus Loony Tunes and Chuck Jones and such. And that was done with very primitive production technology indeed.
Voice acting: I have the strong impression this was downstream of the rise in quality. You look at the first few films of the Disney Renaissance, and there aren’t a lot of A-list actors doing the voices.
I’m a little more inclined to think that Supergreen @2 is on to something with home video and DVD sales. That makes first-glance sense. One problem is, we know the story behind the Disney Renaissance, and video sales weren’t a major factor in their thinking. But perhaps it played a role in the subsequent explosion of quality from the mid 1990s onward?
Doug M.
Doug Muir 04.26.25 at 7:12 am
Colin R. @ 5, domestic box office (US) peaked in 2019. It then took a hit from the pandemic from which it still hasn’t recovered, and maybe never will… but the crash came long after the events we’re discussing.
Bekabot @6, same thing. Even if I agreed that movies are headed for pure visual spectacle /now/, they clearly weren’t during the Golden Age in question. Up, The Incredibles, Lilo and Stitch, Wall-E, Happy Feet — these were all movies with something to say, and well worth watching as stories, visual spectacle notwithstanding. And if you want to watch an animated movie for kids that includes a powerful message about defying expectations, The Iron Giant does that with exactly four words (and if you’re not misting up a little at the fourth word, well…)
@7 and 8, After School Specials aren’t movies! If I ever do a post on kids’ television, I might get to them.
Doug M.
MisterMr 04.26.25 at 7:59 am
My two cents: the influence of Japanese animation.
The period between late 70s and the 80s was a golden age for japanese animation and starting from the early 90s there was a growing fandom in the west for this stuff, and likely people who worked in animation were part of this fandom.
The big difference is that in japanese animation animes for kids already had conflicts, action etc., whereas in the west this was lacking and cartoons were more sanitized, but then also more boring.
Re Doug Muir 11
Yes there was a golden age in the ’30s and ’40s for animation, but for technical reasons: Snow White was a masterpiece and still is a cultural milestone, but the plot sucks ass today and a movie with that story would justly flop today.
Meanwhile in the 50s Tezuka had the Princess Knight manga, where a Princess is born with both a male and a female hearth and so dresses as a male and fight and duels with many enemies, including an enemy-to-love-story with prince Franz Charming. Tezuka turned this into an anime serie in the 60s, and it is considered the first shojo manga (first japanese comic targeted to a female audience).
Although Princess Knight has many sillynesses and limits, modern animation for girls, or girl characters in animation, have fare more in common with Princess Knight than with Snow White or Cinderella.
@matt 3
My favourite in the serie is Babe: furry road.
Matt 04.26.25 at 11:07 am
Thanks, MisterMr – I lol’d at that.
engels 04.26.25 at 11:43 am
No opinion on the main question but I recently went down a rabbit hole of watching Czech animation from the mid-twentieth century and it’s a million times better than most of this stuff.
Chris Armstrong 04.26.25 at 2:10 pm
I have to say, as a child of the 80s brought up on / scarred by the stuff you mentioned, I really suffered taking my kids to the cinema in the 2010s. Obviously the Miyazaki stuff – most of which never got anywhere near a cinema, in our parts anyway – is great. The US animated product I found just awful. Ratatouille was not bad, likewise Wall-E. The rest would be quite effective torture should anyone even want to lock me in a room. Noisy, manipulative, one-dimensional, you name it. My best bet was usually to catch up on some sleep.
Mike Titelbaum 04.26.25 at 11:21 pm
Can we go back to Supergreen’s point, and maybe widen the view to include kids’ television as well as movies? I was a kid in the 80s, and there was a ton of animation being produced that we watched on Saturday mornings and weekday afternoons. (Whereas my parents in the 50s went to see kids’ movies on Saturday mornings.) It certainly wasn’t top quality as a rule, but some of it got pretty good, and even involved serialized storytelling. Then the value proposition started changing in the late 80s as ubiquitous VCRs (followed by DVDs) meant a movie could enter a kid’s regular rotation and cultural currency. So maybe it became more worth it for studios to invest in children’s movies from which they could reap extended capital and cultural rewards? (Then streaming has entirely changed the equation again.…)
CHRISTOPHER H GREEN 04.27.25 at 3:01 pm
Kids animated tv took a big jump too. SpongeBob, batman:tge animated series, fairly odd parents, magic school bus,…
On the movie front I’d also add Ribert Rodriguez’s Spy Kids
Doug Muir 04.27.25 at 7:43 pm
@18, I literally wrote a very long post last year about kids animated TV. It’s linked in the first paragraph.
Doug M.
Casey 05.09.25 at 7:24 pm
Probably it’s not the whole story, but surely Disney’s decision to constantly recycle their intellectual property plays into this somehow?