As a sort of coda to Chris’s post of a couple of days ago, _02138_ magazine ran an article a few years ago on how various well known Harvard professors used research assistants. The magazine has since gone belly-up, but the article has been preserved “here”:http://harmonicminor.com/2007/12/09/a-million-little-writers/ and a few other places on the Internets. This bit on Dershowitz seems relevant to his various forays into public intellectualism:
Several of his researchers say that Dershowitz doesn’t subscribe to the scholarly convention of researching first, then drawing conclusions. Instead, as a lawyer might, he writes his conclusions, leaving spaces where he’d like sources or case law to back up a thesis. On several occasions where the research has suggested opposite conclusions, his students say, he has asked them to go back and look for other cases, or simply to omit the discrepant information. “That’s the way it’s done; a piecemeal, ass-backwards way,” says one student who has firsthand experience with the writing habits of Dershowitz and other tenured colleagues. “They write first, make assertions, and farm out [the work] to research assistants to vet it. They do very little of the research themselves.”
When one student couldn’t find a desired source for an HLS professor’s project, a Harvard research librarian commented, “Isn’t that the opposite of how you’re supposed to do it?” Other students point out that Dershowitz has been at the law school for four decades, and thus even his most apparently off-the-cuff suppositions are based on a long career of reading and practicing law. And Dershowitz does acknowledge researchers in his books.
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chris 06.10.10 at 5:24 pm
a Harvard research librarian commented, “Isn’t that the opposite of how you’re supposed to do it?â€
Not for a lawyer, which I guess is the point.
Although even in law, it’s common to discuss the *existence* of sources opposed to your position, in order to explain why they’re mistaken or not applicable or should be interpreted in a way that’s not really opposed to your position.
y81 06.10.10 at 5:38 pm
I would guess that most law professors research and write this way. Maybe they try to be fair-minded, but one doesn’t envision Ruth Ginsberg saying, “Wow, reviewing the legislative debate has convinced me that the legislature really had a rational basis for treating men and women differently in this statute,” or Eugene Volokh saying, “Wow, reviewing these 500 Massachusetts cases from the 1790s shows that judges back then really didn’t think of bearing arms as an individual activity,” or Catharine MacKinnon saying, “Wow, my meta-analysis of the psych literature shows that consuming pornography really has very little influence on people’s attitudes towards women.”
Matt 06.10.10 at 5:41 pm
Although even in law, it’s common to discuss the existence of sources opposed to your position
In many cases, at least, it’s required to note _cases_ that go against one’s position, and it can be, I believe, a sanctionable offense to knowingly not do so. (It doesn’t happen very often, I think, because “knowingly” is hard to show here, but that’s what the model rules of professional conduct require. So, while the general process here is a very lawyerly one(*), if it’s accurately described it’s even shady for a lawyer.
(*)Many legal scholars, I think, work this way, but it has become much less common as legal academia has become more “academic”, including having more members with advanced training or degrees in other professions, bringing along with them greater appreciation the difference between scholarship and advocacy, though the line is still often thin.)
CJColucci 06.10.10 at 6:25 pm
Practising lawyers often write this way, and generally there’s nothing wrong with it. If they know the legal lay of the land within their own specialties, they are likely to have a sense of what the law is, or would have to be to fit with what else they know, without having at hand the actual supporting authority. (It actually makes for better-written briefs to draft an actual argument, in your own words, and filling in and integrating the supporting authorities later.) Issues of integrity come in when you find out, as often happens, that what you thought you knew wasn’t so, and others have pointed out what that requires.
But I would think that legal academics, just by virtue of the nature of their jobs and the differing demands on their time, probably ought to have more supporting authority at their fingertips than even relatively learned practitioners.
roac 06.10.10 at 7:08 pm
I don’t think I have ever read anything Dershowitz has written, and given his advocacy for torture, I don’t intend to. But surely most of what he does is about policy — what the law ought to be — and rests much more on work in other disciplines than on precedent. This is fundamentally different from brief-writing, where the judge may love your policy argument, but if you can’t persuade him or her that it is supported by the caselaw, or at least not fundamentally inconsistent with it, you aren’t going anywhere.
(And yes, if you find a case that is squarely against you, and you can’t distinguish it away, you are ethically obliged to bring it to the judge’s attention — but you don’t have to blow an airhorn or wave a flag. You will find these cites tucked in at the end of a string of favorable cases, headed “Contra” or “But see.“)
Tim Worstall 06.10.10 at 7:56 pm
Forgive me for not being all that interested in (or knowlegeable about) US academia. But this bit I did think was fascinating:
“Fryer is a media star: He has appeared on CNN and been written about in the New York Times, Esquire, and this issue of 02138 (see page 34). Fryer’s group, the American Inequality Lab, works on a half-dozen or more major research areas at a time. To do so, Fryer now employs seven full-time “project managers,†mostly recent college alums, and works with dozens of others. The students, generally recent college graduates like David Toniatti, each manage a research project, from designing the methodology to collecting the data and running the numbers. Fryer writes the final papers, for which he is accorded primary authorship. “It’s him casting a vision, us working through the details, and him correcting it,†Toniatti says. “Everyone can run the regression; it’s really the idea that counts.—
The way this piece reads this is behaviour on a level as awful as what Dershowitz is doing. But this is what I thought professors were supposed to be doing.
“Oooh, this is interesting! Why don’t you go and have a look at that and together we might be able to make something of your results”.
Or have I (again) completely misunderstood some vital distinction within academia?
(BTW, the current English English phrase for what Dershowitz is said to be doing is policy based evidence making and I’m agin’ it.)
Harry 06.10.10 at 8:15 pm
I’ve read quite a bit of Fryer’s work. It is technically very sound, and has real flair (I just sent an email to friends about one of his pieces ten minutes ago, commenting as an aside how productive he is — now I know why!). I wouldn’t say that he is ideologically neutral, exactly, but I have no sense at all that he is aiming for a particular conclusion. He makes conjectures, tests them against data, sometimes using quite neat methods, and reports the upshot (which may, or may not, confirm the conjecture).
Involving his researchers in developing the methods, running the regressions, etc, is apprenticing them. If the description is accurate they must be having a fantastic intellectual experience. And, although without looking back in a systematic way I can’t say for sure, my impression is that he gives them a lot of credit (they are co-authors often, or credited in other ways). I think your characterization of Dershowitz is right, and you and Henry agree on what the key vice is. I’d call what Fryer does “policy-oriented evidence making” — i.e. being led by a policy dilemma and trying to find evidence which helps figure out the dilemma. I’m for that (as I imagine you are).
Rich Puchalsky 06.10.10 at 8:18 pm
I wonder whether Dershowitz’s researchers should be considered to be individually complicit in torture in the same way that CIA agents who are just following orders are.
Henry 06.10.10 at 8:34 pm
Yes – the Fryer model is a pretty standard one in the hard sciences, and doesn’t seem to me to be particularly awful (as long as due credit is given). And being married to a litigator, I know how this works – but I think the problem is that being an academic (or a public intellectual trading on your academic position) isn’t really compatible with the Dershowitz style of research. Everyone has intellectual biases, obviously, but an academic is supposed to be swayed by the better argument as best as they can discern it. Defense lawyers or prosecutors not so much (subject to the boundaries discussed by commentators above) – but they are conducting their argument in a highly stylized setting in which everyone knows the rules, and in which professional ethics require you to represent your side’s case as best as you can (even if you think the client is a sleaze), and not to be compelled by the opponent’s arguments, even if you privately think that they are excellent and persuasive. In other words, taking lawyerly styles of research and argumentation from their natural setting leads to you becoming a hack.
roac 06.10.10 at 8:53 pm
As a footnote to Henry, one of the things you are not supposed to do as a litigator, for the reasons Henry gives, is to state or imply that you personally are convinced of the merits of the case you are arguing.
I was once in mediation in a case where I and another lawyer were representing an individual who was claiming to have been mistreated by his colleagues in an organization. The mediator came out of a huddle with the defendants, took me and my co-counsel aside and said, “You need to understand that the problem here is that the other side can’t stand your client.” (They were all being very civil to one another in public.) We immediately said, more or less in chorus, “Of course we understand — we can’t stand him either.” Lay people can have trouble understanding the professional pride involved in not letting a detail like that make a difference to your work.
Sebastian 06.10.10 at 9:11 pm
Isn’t this pretty typical of legal academic work? Laurence Tribe seems to work that way and I’m pretty sure he is considered to have a good reputation on the left.
y81 06.10.10 at 9:18 pm
@ 11: Except for his positions on Israel, Alan Dershowitz is generally identified with the left.
And I would add, that Alan Dershowitz fits right in with the left in Cambridge, or on the Upper West Side, which exists in a rather strange alternate universe in which support for Israel is part of a leftist worldview. The existence and positions of Pat Buchanan or James Baker are a major part of this worldview, proving that the opponents of Israel are conservative Republicans. The existence and positions of people like Henry Farrell are simply ignored.
david 06.10.10 at 11:41 pm
Not by me he isn’t. But the Left isn’t blogging anymore, is he?
Def Att 06.11.10 at 2:00 am
13: I think He posts in the Wonkette comments sometimes.
nick s 06.11.10 at 3:24 am
have I (again) completely misunderstood some vital distinction within academia?
As Harry suggests and Henry makes explicit, Fryer’s approach is similar to the research group model in the hard sciences, where you have postdocs and doctoral candidates working under professorial guidance — and receiving appropriate credit in papers.
For the humanities, though, the ‘go off, young graduate, and do grunt work in the archives for cash and references’ approach is illustrative of the distinction that comes from having a book deal with Harper Collins and not Harvard UP. This doesn’t necessarily mean that the sources are collected to fit the argument, but my main issue with over-reliance on researchers is that it diminishes the chance to see things in the context of the stacks, and the often serendipitous discoveries that happen as a result.
yeliabmit 06.11.10 at 3:28 am
With regard to whether you have to cite contrary authorities, I think that depends a lot on the area of law you’re talking about. In my practice (Canadian immigration/refugee) much of what I do is before administrative tribunals, and so caselaw is rarely cited because many decision-makers are free to disregard decisions from their level of the process, and are only bound by caselaw decided in Federal Court or the Supreme Court of Canada. A great deal turns on the facts and evidence that is led, and this is not constrained by the normal rules of evidence.
When actually in court, I would only cite cases where [1] the facts are identical and the outcome was favourable, and [2] cases where a legal test was developed or applied in a relevant way (whether it went for or against the appellant). Unlike civil litigation, I’m never up against a non-state party, and in court I’m only ever appealing decisions so leading evidence or testimony are rarely part of the proceeding.
Incidentally, re roac’s comment above, I chose immigration/refugee because it’s one of the few areas where I can genuinely get behind almost all of my clients. I found my forays into criminal and civil litigation unrewarding because I found myself unmotivated to advocate for those clients.
Matt 06.11.10 at 3:52 am
yeliabmit- I had in mind the US Model Rules of Professional Conduct, particularly Rule 3.3(a)(2), which says, (a) A lawyer shall not knowingly: . . .
(2) fail to disclose to the tribunal legal authority in the controlling jurisdiction known to the lawyer to be directly adverse to the position of the client and not disclosed by opposing counsel;
I assume that _something_ similar applies in Canada, though how it differs I don’t know. (In U.S. immigration practice, in hearings before an immigration judge, this would certainly apply, and in asylum cases in the U.S. case law is cited regularly- it’s almost certainly necessary in most cases. But it wouldn’t surprise me that the situation would be different in other countries.)
As others have noted, it’s often easy enough to play around the edges of this rule w/o going over in real life.
yeliabmit 06.11.10 at 4:20 am
Matt – We have similar requirements in the provincial rules of conduct (which are binding on our conduct) and federal canon (which is not). The Immigration and Refugee Board will hear caselaw if necessary, but the law itself isn’t especially complex (immigration and citizenship are governed by a single statute each) and most cases will turn on things like documentary evidence and credibility. Importantly, refugee cases are not reported unless they’re appealed, so it’s not really possible to be able to cite similar-fact situations where they were decided favourably.
At Federal Court, where you’re usually appealing a decision by the Board or a government Ministry by way of Judicial Review, all normal common-law rules of appellate advocacy apply. However, there is a standard Book of Authorities that everyone cites. You can cite other cases, but much of the important stuff is in the standard book. The law isn’t really that complex (except in a few of the rarely-adjudicated sections of the legislation).
This is quite different from civil litigation or even criminal law, where there are innumerable cases dealing with any number of factual variations and zillions of judges all deciding differently. I imagine the opportunity to — intentionally or otherwise — lead the court astray regarding the law must be much greater in those areas.
I wonder if a practitioner from a European non-common law jurisdiction might have even more different experiences.
Jim Aune 06.11.10 at 4:25 am
Henry, are you developing a bit of a Jew-obsession? Just askin’.
Cryptic ned 06.11.10 at 4:50 am
I wonder whether Dershowitz’s researchers should be considered to be individually complicit in torture in the same way that CIA agents who are just following orders are.
No.
Pliggett Darcy 06.11.10 at 5:42 am
@19: Wait, are you serious? Alan Dershowitz is Jewish, ergo Farrell is developing a “Jew-obsession”? If the topic here were, say, Dershowitz’s position on Israel, you might — might — have a leg to stand on. As it is, your comment is just a disgusting bit of sub-argument.
Pliggett Darcy 06.11.10 at 5:43 am
Oh, also. Do you beat your wife? Just askin’!
Tim Worstall 06.11.10 at 7:35 am
“I’d call what Fryer does “policy-oriented evidence makingâ€â€”i.e. being led by a policy dilemma and trying to find evidence which helps figure out the dilemma. I’m for that (as I imagine you are).”
Indeed. The distinction with “policy based” is that”oriented” can be an excellent method of attempting to deal with real world problems. “Based” is seeking a justification for a policy already decided upon (examples too numerous to mention from the last year or two of the Labour Govt….and no doubt similar in the next couple of the Coalition: once politicians have hit upon a method of leading the populace by the nose they’ll use it regardless of what the conclusion they wish to lead people is.)
John Meredith 06.11.10 at 8:51 am
‘Several of his researchers say … On several occasions where the research has suggested opposite conclusions, his students say, … says one student who has firsthand experience … Other students point … ‘
Unnamed sources, innuendo, and tendentiousness. I wonder why this magazine folded. Mind you, The Daily Mail is still going so it can be hard to generalise about this sort of thing.
kid bitzer 06.11.10 at 10:06 am
@9–
certainly my first reaction was, “given how fundamentally his job differs from the job that i and my colleagues in academia do, how strange that dershowitz and i should both be called “professor”.”
presumably there are some activities conducted by the faculty at law schools that bear a family resemblance to genuine scholarship–i.e.disinterested inquiry, increasing the stock of knowledge, training a new generation in it. who knows, perhaps dershowitz himself does some in his spare time. but it is not what he is known for.
and i suppose that this sort of misuse of academic position is also known to occur in certain economics departments, where after doing a bit of genuine study, people spend the rest of their lives prostituting themselves for the highest bidder. it happens in medical schools, as well, though it is slightly harder to get away with–when your clients’ pills kill all of the subjects, you cannot argue that they are flourishing, but you can decline to publish altogether.
Barry 06.11.10 at 1:09 pm
“…it happens in medical schools, as well, though it is slightly harder to get away with”
From casual reading (meaning I’m too busy/lazy to look up the cites), it’s possibly worst of all academic fields. IIRC, it was revealed that the majority of psychiatrists who worked on the latest DSM section on (depression?) were in the pay of pharmaceutical companies. The New England Journal of Medicine finally declared that they wouldn’t publish the results of any clinical trial not registered with them ahead of time, due to the widespread practice of running multiple trials, and only reporting favorable results. It’s normal practice for pharmaceutical companies to write contracts with researchers which give the company control over the data, so that they can control unfavorable results, and so that multi-center trials are conducted so that the researchers in one center don’t know what’s going on in another center.
My guess would be that academic fields could be ranked by the amount of money at stake in the short term (i.e., a decade), and that that ranking would very accurately predict the amount of corruption.
Henry 06.11.10 at 1:28 pm
Jim Aune – if you would like to continue commenting on this blog, I suggest that you consider an immediate and stark change to your approach to political argument. Waltzing into someone’s house and immediately accusing him of anti-Semitism is an excellent way to get kicked out.
y81 06.11.10 at 3:39 pm
@25 et al.: Politically committed scholarship is hardly unique to the law faculty: try the women’s studies department, for example. More generally, even in the hard sciences, much research consists of looking for an expected answer to fulfill one’s preconceptions. For example, one sets up an experiment with a half-silvered glass to detect the “ether wind” with the confident expectation of finding said wind. Now, obviously, scholarly integrity dictates that one report the failure to find the wind, but not that one conduct the experiment with no expectation as to the result.
Finding no ether wind, the scientist formulates an alternative hypothesis. Similarly, I presume that, on the unusual occasions when Alan Dershowitz’s research assistants report that there is no case law (or whatever) support for his argument, he revises his analysis. That is certainly what would happen in a law firm if the associates reported that a proposed analysis in a current litigation had no support: we would revise our argument. (Conceivably, we would advise the client to increase its settlement offer.)
scathew 06.11.10 at 3:55 pm
Ah, I see, sort of, “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy�
gocart mozart 06.11.10 at 6:40 pm
There is nothing wrong when a lawyer who is advocating for a client does this but it is problematic when done by a scholor or judge. On a side note, I beleive this is exactly how Scalia and Roberts go about conjuring up their “original intent of the founders” reasonings.
PHB 06.11.10 at 7:08 pm
What is less worrying than the methods he uses in his own ‘scholarship’ is his activities to suppress academic freedom. Dershowitz is one of those people who thinks that the only opinion on Israel that should ever be heard is his own.
Of course the fact that this particular attitude is responsible for shrinking support for Zionism to a minority position even within the Cambridge MA Jewish community has probably escaped him.
Calling out people who deviate from the party line is the sort of behavior I expect from Trotskyites.
It is one thing to have a policy as the UK does of maintaining close ties to the US as being the prime concern in foreign policy. Quite another to base national policy on the assumption that close ties to the US are guaranteed in perpetuity regardless of the provocation.
roac 06.11.10 at 7:41 pm
Incidentally, based on my poll of Harvard LS graduates (sample size: n=1), the students despise most of the superstar professors, specifically including Dershowitz, as self-aggrandizing jackasses with no interest in participating in the actual process of education.
When US News a few years back did a survey of student satisfaction at US law schools, Harvard came out very, very close to rock bottom. My sample says these phenomena are not without causal connection.
George Berger 06.12.10 at 8:42 am
@Rich—Your remark about complicity in torture is well-taken. I’m a philosopher of sc ience and logician, so I cannot answer your question. But a quick look at the posts above yours suggests that many might miss whai I believe to be your point.
I might be wrong (bad vision), but I see no reference to Dershowitz on torture in the posts above yours. The issue is this. This LawProf defends the use of torture, in cases where permission to intentionally cause pain to obtain evidence is enshrined in a one-time “torture license.” From what I have read elsewhere, this is a strongly-held opinion of a human being. So your question might be put like this: Does Mr Dershowitz send his students in search for evidence or legal-philosophical arguments that support this opinion, and are they complicit in actual torture if they do look around? Given this formulation, the answer to my 2nd clause is “No.” But if one adds that in instance X Dershowitz was asked his opinion about the application of torture in X, and if he then sent out his students who, knowing what was at stake in X looked for evidence, I’d answer “Yes, they are complicit, and so is this Professor. The issue od a license is morally irrelevant here.
My use of “human being” to describe A. Dershowitz was intentional. Kant argued that his conception(s) of morally correct acts applies to “all rational beings.” Alan Dershowitz is human, but his moral rationality is impaired. BTW, in Kant’s time, judicial torture was abolished in Prussia. What constitutes moral progress? I don’t know.
piglet 06.12.10 at 3:44 pm
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engels 06.14.10 at 5:02 pm
As a sort of coda to Chris’s post of a couple of days ago, 02138 magazine ran an article a few years ago on how various well known Harvard professors used research assistants.
02138 magazine ran their article (a few years ago) as a sort of coda to Chris’ post (of a couple of days ago)? That was pretty clever of them.
lemuel pitkin 06.14.10 at 5:19 pm
Dude, it’s an utterance modifier.
bianca steele 06.14.10 at 6:18 pm
In my experience, a “project manager” is in charge of a number of other people who do the actual work, so it would seem there are other questions also raised by the article.
“Designing the methodology” struck me as unusual at first but could describe a pretty broad range of activities.
NMissC 06.16.10 at 2:17 am
No, what’s described about Dershowitz is not how lawyers write.
Sure, in legal writing (or any writing that uses citation to sources) occasionally you’ll use a plug for something you know is out there (The Palsgraff case says this…) but the writers who just go on stream of consciousness and pick up the pieces miss things in their sources just like anyone other kind of writer working from research materials.
What the post describes is the op-ed school of writing, not legal writing.
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