Parents and children

by Michael Bérubé on May 30, 2007

I believe my last post here — almost a month ago — was all about <a href=”https://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/03/time-check/”>not having enough time in the day</a>. Well, today my summer finally begins. I returned the last of my twelve graduate seminar essays, and I dropped off the First Child. I left him the car in which we drove 800 miles in one day, and flew back to central Pennsylvania the next day. Now that’s efficiency! We decided to forego <a href=”http://www.michaelberube.com/index.php/weblog/reporting_for_duty/”>the traditional father-son knife fight</a> upon parting, because I had myself a one-way airline ticket that I’d purchased only eight days before, and we figured I would attract quite enough attention in the airport without having to explain away sundry fresh flesh wounds.

Nick turned 21 last month, and will begin his senior year of college in the fall. I don’t know whether that makes me the CT contributor with the oldest child, but I figure I’ve got a shot at that dubious distinction. And so, for my return-from-little-hiatus post, I’m going to dilate a bit about parents and professors.


When we picked Nick up from JFK airport three weeks ago after his semester in Florence (he’s an architecture student, and apparently they have architecture there), we swung through my old neighborhood in Flushing, Queens in order to escape New York traffic by way of one of the city’s lesser-known and lesser-traveled outlets, the Throgs Neck Bridge (and yes, I have a post planned on Flushing. Just you wait!) in order that he might get in a visit with Janet’s family in Connecticut. (<a href=”http://www.forgotten-ny.com/YOU%27D%20NEVER%20BELIEVE/Throgs%20Neck/throgs.html”>Throgs</a> are now extinct, but legend has it that they were abundant — and reached a length of over four feet — when Henry Hudson sailed down Long Island Sound.) In the course of making these travel plans, though, I’d requested and received Official Spousal Approval for bringing along my stack of graduate seminar papers, so that I could read four or five of them during the time we’d be staying chez Janet’s mother. Since Janet’s family places great emphasis on “sociability,” and is not used to having one solitary family member squirrel himself away in a study, Official Spousal Approval was required. So I read papers in the quiet of my mother-in-law’s pleasant assisted-living facility when the rest of my family visited with most of Janet’s family during the day, and then in the evenings I emerged from my fortress of solitude and went to dinner and movies and such.

As the week wore on (and I did get five papers done), I noticed a most amusing thing. Janet, of course, would refer to my work as “work,” and would explain to her siblings that Michael wouldn’t be coming along on X venture because he was “working all day”; and each day, her mother would say the same thing — even though my activities didn’t look like any form of “work” she knew. Each afternoon, I would read an essay at a table, or read a bunch of pages in a chair, or read while lolling around on the sofa; then I would get out the pen and go over the essay more carefully, line by line; then I would open up the laptop and type about two single-spaced pages of more general comments. I don’t suppose I need to convince any CT readers that the six or seven hours spent on each essay was, in fact, work; but you have to admit that it doesn’t <i>look like</i> work until the laptop comes into play, at which point Janet’s mother could safely think, “my son-in-law the literature professor is writing.”

I mean no slight to my dear mother-in-law, who was always a great help to us when we were in graduate school and when our children were born. She just doesn’t come from a background in which people sit around and read all day and call it “work,” and neither did her husband. So quite apart from the fact that it’s really kinda rude to bring a pile of work to your in-laws’ house, I’ve tried, over the years, to make sure that when we’re chez Lyon I don’t have any important reading to do. Because I learned a long time ago, when you’re dealing with parents or in-laws who don’t have any idea what you’re doing other than “getting a degree” of some kind, you’re often dealing with people who don’t see reading as “work.” Oh, Janet’s parents tried: her mother is hospitality itself, and her father, who died in 2004, was among the kindest men on the planet. But my reading in their house was often treated either as a leisure activity (and therefore interruptable by any number of other leisure activities or random conversations) or as downright antisocial (in which case the interruptions for activities and conversations were really attempts to bring me back into the human fold). Now, there’s a dicey question of cultural capital involved here, because although my birth family usually found itself in more precarious financial circumstances than Janet’s, both my parents were familiar with your basic <i>New York Review of Books</i> kind of literate culture. So any complaint from me along the lines of “I can’t do any reading in your parents’ house” could be taken, under the wrong circumstances, as a complaint about other people’s places on the International Bourdieu Chart. The funny thing was, though, that despite my parents’ familiarity with the idea of reading as “work,” I could never get anything read in their house either, because they too, on some level, saw my reading as “not doing anything” or “not doing anything in particular,” and therefore interruptable with news of distant family members, recent headlines, political controversies, sports updates, and the like. I remember vividly a vexed visit long ago to their then-new place in Virginia Beach, to which they’d moved when my father got a job at Old Dominion University; it was 1981, and I was a junior in college who was desperately trying to write a paper on <i>Tristram Shandy</i> over spring break. I would up having to be ferried to the tiny local public library each day, because (1) there were <i>no other public places to read in Virginia Beach</i> at that time (there’s a study to be done right there: Thomas Bender to the white courtesy phone! — and while I’m on the subject, thank goodness for Starbucks, which introduced the concept of “reading outside one’s house” to the entire area), (2) I had no car, and nothing is walkable in Virginia Beach, and (3) my parents simply could not stop themselves from chatting to me about whatever was crossing their minds no matter where Laurence Sterne and I tried to hide.

Occasionally, Janet’s parents’ cluelessness about their daughter’s and son-in-law’s chosen line of work made for uncomfortable moments — as when, on the eve of the 1988 MLA convention at which I had my first-ever job interviews, they asked me if I would try to look for a job in New England, preferably in western Massachusetts. “Preferably in western Massachusetts?” I replied. “Do you have any specific zip code in mind?”

No, I didn’t really say that. I may be an antisocial paper-grading Sterne-reading misanthrope, but I’m not a complete asshole. Instead, Janet and I patiently explained that academe doesn’t work that way, and that, in fact, I would be fortunate to find a job of any kind anywhere in the country. This came as a real shock to them, I’m afraid, and I could see their puzzlement in question form: You mean you both spent the better part of a decade getting these degrees and you can’t even decide where you want to work? You say <i>you’ll be lucky to get a job at all?</i> What kind of “line of work” is this?

So it was especially lovely, earlier this month, that Janet’s mother indulged my graduate seminar paper-grading; and I repaid the favor by digging a couple of holes for the rose bushes Janet had bought her. That was nothing. Much easier than reading, I assure you.

And these days, when my graduate students tell similar tales of growing increasingly incomprehensible to their families (and their partners’ families), who understand neither why they are studying the technological sublime in Futurism and Vorticism nor what kind of “job” this study will produce in the end, I tell them, first, there’s an easy way to find out whether the parents or in-laws in question have any idea how academe works. If they know what a “provost” is, then there’s a good chance they might understand the job market, hiring committees, the tenure process, the mechanics of peer review, and so forth — even if they don’t understand anything about Futurism or Vorticism. I mean, in what social context other than academe would one ever hear or use the word “provost”? (“Decanal” is another good one, since most people outside academe tend to assume it is the name of a powerful sedative.) But then I add, critically: it is not necessarily a Good Thing that one’s parents be literate in matters academic. In some cases — <a href=https://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/23/the-baroness-and-the-nutter-apologies-to-john-creasey/>like Harry’s, I gather</a> — it can be great fun. But you never know: sometimes it’s better to have parents or in-laws who have no idea what in the world you do than to have parents or in-laws who are up on the latest academic gossip. It all depends on whether you want to talk about provosts and deans and job searches with your parents. And, after all, there’s no guarantee that you’ll get any more <strike>reading</strike> work done in a house where everyone’s read the latest <i>NYRB</i> and <i>Chronicle of Higher Education</i>.

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Timothy Burke 05.30.07 at 5:40 pm

Here’s a little but crucial thing that none of my grandparents nor my mother-in-law understood: that many doctoral candidates are not paying tuition for their degrees and are in fact being paid stipends. So for them, five years studying history must have seemed bizarrely extravagant, as they assumed I was going into debt each year at the same rate that a doctor or lawyer would be going into debt. My mother-in-law in particular really couldn’t figure it out, and so when I got a paying tenure-track job, it was to her something like a miracle. Now, it was to me too, but for reasons completely different than her thinking on the subject.

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Michael Bérubé 05.30.07 at 5:52 pm

Oh, the luxury of it all, Timothy. Back in the 1980s, the University of Virginia actually did charge tuition to graduate students in English. Even when, in our third year, we began teaching (at about $2500/course), they still yanked back $700/semester in in-state tuition fees. We conducted a job action in 1988 for (among other things) tuition remission, and the university agreed — to phase it in gradually over three years. As if they had to wean themselves slowly.

But yeah, most parents/ grandparents/ in-laws don’t understand the “stipend” thing, either.

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tom s. 05.30.07 at 6:30 pm

An aside on the “reading as work” thing.

After Carol Shields dies I saw a piece by her daughter. While growing up, the daughter apparently thought her mother’s job was to type. It never occurred to her that her mother had an end product in mind or that end product might be read – it was simply the clacking of the keys that constituted work.

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Rich Puchalsky 05.30.07 at 6:31 pm

“Preferably in western Massachusetts?”

Not completely impossible; you might have ended up at Umass (Amherst), or Smith, or one of the multitude of smaller places.

Whenever one’s parents ask a question or make a request like this, that’s the best kind of answer for everyone concerned. “Will this book I’m writing become a bestseller? Well, that’s not impossible.”

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ozma 05.30.07 at 6:46 pm

For some reason this entry reminds me of the Monty Python sketch where the father with the working class accent is the playwright and the the educated young son is coal miner:

Good! good? What do you know about it? What do you know about getting up at five o’clock in t’morning to fly to Paris… back at the Old Vic for drinks at twelve, sweating the day through press interviews, television interviews and getting back here at ten to wrestle with the problem of a homosexual nymphomaniac drug-addict involved in the ritual murder of a well known Scottish footballer. That’s a full working day, lad, and don’t you forget it!

The son regrets his criticism when his poor old father doubles over with writer’s cramp.

(from Google, not from memory!)

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Karl Steel 05.30.07 at 7:13 pm

Nice work. I’ve written on this topic, too. Over here (and, to a degree, here, I discussed part of the phenom. you describe and then concluded with a relevant blockquote, from, of all places, Zizek:

“On the rare occasions when, owing to various kinds of social obligations, I cannot avoid meeting my relatives who have nothing to do with Lacanian theory (or with theory in general), sooner or later the conversation always takes the same unpleasant turn: with barely concealed hostility and envy lurking beneath a polite surface, they ask me how much I earn by my writing and publishing abroad, and giving lectures around the world. Surprisingly, whichever answer I give sounds wrong to them: if I admit that I earn what, in their eyes, is a considerable sum of money, they consider it unjust that I earn so much for my empty philosophizing, while they, who are doing ‘real work,’ have to sweat for a much lesser reward; if I tell them a small sum, they assert, with deep satisfaction, that even this is too much–who needs my kind of philosophizing in these times of social crisis? Why should we spend taxpayers’ money on it? The underlying premise of their reasoning is that, to put it bluntly, whatever I earn, I earn too much–why? It is not only that they consider my kind of work useless: what one can discern beneath this official, public reproach is the envy of enjoyment. That is to say, it soon becomes obvious what really bothers them: the notion that I actually enjoy my work. They possess a vague intuition of how I find jouissance in what I do; which is why, in their eyes, money is never a proper equivalent for my work. No wonder, then, that what I earn always oscillates between the two extremes of ‘too little’ and ‘too much’: such an oscillation is an unmistakable sign that we are dealing with jouissance.” (Plague of Fantasies 53-54)

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Rich B. 05.30.07 at 7:14 pm

(1) there were no other public places to read in Virginia Beach at that time

Yes! During a vacation a decade ago in Virginia Beach, I came down with an acute case of agoraphobia when I realized how far I was from anything that would fit the definition of “culture,” as the term is commonly used in major Northeastern cities or midwestern college towns.

The realization caused an immediate drive to a full-sized Barnes & Noble located approximately half of an hour away, which at least met some bare minimal standards.

I could then return to “civilization,” and enjoy — for novelty value only, of course — a life taping of the “700 Club.”

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thag 05.30.07 at 7:30 pm

“each day, her mother would say the same thing”

i tried to find out what this was, i really tried, reading twice and thrice, but i couldn’t find it.

what would her mother say?

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Matt Weiner 05.30.07 at 7:36 pm

Jeez, I’m an academic myself, and I’m still not entirely clear on what a provost is. (Well, I gather it’s the person with the money; but some campuses don’t have ’em.) And I probably would assume that Decanal is a sedative.

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rea 05.30.07 at 7:40 pm

in what social context other than academe would one ever hear or use the word “provost”?

I have had military members of the family who seem to have had some contact with the provost marshal, but that’s not quite the same thing . . .

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Matt Weiner 05.30.07 at 7:45 pm

Skin and eye irritant. Whether this corresponds to your own decanal experiences, I cannot say.

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Matt Weiner 05.30.07 at 7:47 pm

In non-academic contexts, a provost is a winner who became a doggie’s dinner.

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John Quiggin 05.30.07 at 8:17 pm

As regards dubious distinctions, Michael, my older son turned 26 this week. The question is, who will be the first CT grandparent?

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BetsyD 05.30.07 at 8:18 pm

When I lived with my sister, I used to yell at her about trying to talk to me when I was reading, which drives me crazy. Finally she told me that the problem was not that she only tried to talk to me when I was reading, but that I was always reading. I had to concede this point.

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sharon 05.30.07 at 8:21 pm

Even little doggies have got to eat.

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Matt Weiner 05.30.07 at 8:29 pm

My sources say that Nick Lowe was slandering the doggie; see penultimate paragraph.

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kim 05.30.07 at 8:54 pm

I have had similar experiences with my in-laws, but rather an opposite one with my own parents, both academics. I believe I had been at graduate school for all of 2.3 minutes before my parents called to ask if I had chosen my dissertation project yet.

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Michael Bérubé 05.30.07 at 9:47 pm

i tried to find out what this was, i really tried, reading twice and thrice, but i couldn’t find it.

what would her mother say?

Thag, the antecedent is: Janet, of course, would refer to my work as “work,” and would explain to her siblings that Michael wouldn’t be coming along on X venture because he was “working all day.”

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JP Stormcrow 05.30.07 at 10:18 pm

i tried to find out what this was, i really tried, reading twice and thrice, but i couldn’t find it.

Sigh. Reading can be such hard work.

Throgs Neck Bridge
A great bridge, on a good day you get a Clearview all the way Cross Island.

I have a post planned on Flushing. Just you wait!


emerged from my fortress of solitude
Looking forward to your post on Mother-in-law-less Queens.

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Abby Kelleyite 05.30.07 at 10:31 pm

And these days, when my graduate students tell similar tales of growing increasingly incomprehensible to their families….
Oddly, I seem to have grown increasingly incomprehensible to any number of people, without the benefit of graduate school, merely by reading Crooked Timber and following all the links through the collected online writings of Professor Bérubé and others, even sans provost. Long live the virtual salon.

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Russell Arben Fox 05.30.07 at 10:44 pm

My father–farmer, rancher, restaurant owner, mortgage agent, real-estate wheeler-dealer, businessman–has always rather jovially referred to me and my work as “parasitic,” a judgment I’ve never really been entirely willing or capable of denying. My mother, by contrast, has diligently requested a received a copy of everything I’ve ever published, including my dissertation. She has no interest in ever reading any of it, but she collects in and puts it in a box nonetheless. You’ve take whatever respect you can get, I suppose.

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Tracy W 05.30.07 at 11:10 pm

But my reading in their house was often treated either as a leisure activity (and therefore interruptable by any number of other leisure activities or random conversations) or as downright antisocial (in which case the interruptions for activities and conversations were really attempts to bring me back into the human fold).

Isn’t there an issue here that most forms of work are easily interruptible? Eg I find spending a weekend helping a friend tackle a new house – eg painting walls, cleaning windows, weeding the garden, laying bricks, quite a social activity, interruptible by random conversations, where the only really binding escapes were needing to get to the dump or the hardware store before it closed. And the non-intellectually demanding jobs I’ve had have been equally interrupted by co-workers.

Presumably there are some jobs that the vast majority of people recognise as being bad to interrupt, things like welding or surgery. But clearly you weren’t doing one of those, and I suspect your in-laws may just not realise how much concentration is required to read papers, rather than not regarding your work as real work.

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H. E. Baber 05.30.07 at 11:13 pm

When I was last pregnant, my ob/gyn wanted to know if I was “still working.” I was, so he asked for details. Oh, 9 hours of teaching and 5 office hours, so you’re just working part-time, 14 hours a week. My kids, who know what a provost is and should know better, don’t believe that I “really” work either, even when I am slogging away at the laptop reading journal articles online, writing, grading or preparing courses.

I don’t know if, or to what extent gender plays a role, but the view seems to be that you don’t really work unless you go to a workplace, punch the clock and are more or less confined to a restricted area. Whatever you do “at work” is work; whatever you do when you’re not “at work” is not work.

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vivian 05.31.07 at 12:53 am

My father used to take me fishing for flounder under – or near – the Throgs Neck Bridge. Not quite as suburban as the link, at least by the shore, but really different from more western parts of the Bronx and I assume different from Flushing. Driving over the bridge you get no sense of the leisure below.

Now fishing isn’t social-chatty, but it’s social-compatible and respected. I wonder if your (Michael’s) in-laws would class it with welding and surgery rather than grading?

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thag 05.31.07 at 12:54 am

oh, got it–the mother would say “the same thing” that your wife had already said.

I was thrown off by the “each day”, which made me think that the “same” was picking up “same on day n+1 as on day n”, rather than “same as her daughter had said.”

thanks, m.b.

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clew 05.31.07 at 1:00 am

24 —

That’s why you need L500/year *and* a room of your own. If that doesn’t get the message across, the room needs a wall of bookcases and a leather chair.

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arthur 05.31.07 at 1:49 am

As the son and husband of academics, I have precisely the reverse problem. Some folks have no sense of how non-academics live.

They know in theory that I can’t take the entire Summer off, but can’t quite digest the concept.

And they can’t quite understand that becoming a partner at a law firm is not in the least like getting tenure.

“How can they fire you if you’re a partner?”
“I’m not partners with my clients, so they can fire me whenever they feel like it.”
“Oh, well then you still have a job, and you still get paid.”
“Uh, half right at least for the moment. Where do you think the money to pay me comes from?”

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Michael Bérubé 05.31.07 at 3:22 am

OK, I had to take much of the rest of the day off to do a whole bunch of nothing, the way we academics do in the “summer,” but now that Anaheim has beaten Ottawa in game two of the Stanley Cup finals, here’s something of a roundup:

The realization caused an immediate drive to a full-sized Barnes & Noble located approximately half of an hour away, which at least met some bare minimal standards.

I gave a reading at that B&N in 1996. Before that, Rich B., even megabookstores didn’t exist in the area. The Ghent area of Norfolk had some coffeeshops — and that was it for the entire Tidewater seven-county region of three million people. I tell you, in some areas of the United States, Borders/ B&N / Starbucks introduced the idea of drinking coffee and reading, and I wish more lefty independent-bookstore fans knew it — or would admit it.

I probably would assume that Decanal is a sedative.

Actually it is, Matt. That’s one of the various “misdirection” jokes in this post, like the bit about the throgs standing in for lobsters.

As regards dubious distinctions, Michael, my older son turned 26 this week. The question is, who will be the first CT grandparent?

I’m so impressed, John! You don’t look a day over oldest-child-is-15. I think the shaving helped. But OK, if the reproducin’ race is on, just remember — any grandchildren we have will very likely be alive in the year 2100. Dare we wish such a fate on innocent humans?

I have had similar experiences with my in-laws, but rather an opposite one with my own parents, both academics. I believe I had been at graduate school for all of 2.3 minutes before my parents called to ask if I had chosen my dissertation project yet.

Exactly my final-paragraph point, Kim. Thanks.

. . . And had you? I would hope so.

Throgs Neck Bridge
A great bridge, on a good day you get a Clearview all the way Cross Island.

Ha ha ha, JP. (Those are the evocative names of the NYC highways that feed the bridge, folks.) But the truth is that the Throgs Neck is a singularly undistinguished bridge, not even remotely in the same class as the Brooklyn or the George Washington or the Verrazano. But at least Paul Simon wrote a song about it! Oh, no, wait. He didn’t.

Isn’t there an issue here that most forms of work are easily interruptible?

Tracy, this is a great question — but I think you’re loading the dice with tasks like weeding or painting, which are very social activities that involve meandering eight-hour conversations. I mean, they’re practically first cousin to barn-raising. Whereas most professional forms of work — and lots of nonprofessional forms, like those of musicians and woodworkers (to take two examples from the other Lyon Sibling spouses), require every bit as much sustained concentration as reading.

But I’ll think about this some more. Your comment and H. E. Baber’s kept me humming all day, even when I was playing nine holes of golf, which everyone knows requires intense concentration.

And Vivian, I never did get around to fishing under the Throgs Neck Bridge. But I’ll try to offer a good snapshot of NE Queens in my Flushing post. . . .

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JP Stormcrow 05.31.07 at 4:15 am

Throgs Neck is a singularly undistinguished bridge

I once read that back in the day they would at times illuminate it with but a single green light, the better to guide the boats beating ceaselessly against the current.

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Chris 05.31.07 at 4:22 am

On the age issue, is there a time in a person’s life when the term “child” has to be dropped? Michael says “Nick turned 21 last month…. I don’t know whether that makes me the CT contributor with the oldest child…” Would a 90-year old with a 65-year-old daughter qualify?

John, by contrast, says “my older son turned 26 this week” which seems to me more appropriate, but that could just be a common idiom to us Australians.
Is it the case that in America you are always a child in relation to your parents? Or is it an academic thing?

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Michael Bérubé 05.31.07 at 4:27 am

Well, Chris, “child” may be an American thing. But when I think of Nick, “offspring” just sounds so . . . clinical somehow. I thought of “issue,” but that sounded too legalistic and, uh, weird.

Though I’ve often referred to Nick as a member of the first filial generation, so maybe you shouldn’t go by me.

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Chris 05.31.07 at 4:47 am

When it comes to legal, I’ve always had a fondness for “heirs of his body”.

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Kenny Easwaran 05.31.07 at 5:11 am

Actually, I have a similar trouble occasionally with my boyfriend and his roommates, who are all PhD students themselves. But, being experimental chemists, they do most of their work in lab, from 9 to 7 or some other similarly regular hours.

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dr ngo 05.31.07 at 5:22 am

My parents were reasonably supportive of my academic career, from a distance [I never lived closer than 100 miles from my parents once I turned 21, and usually 2-10,000 miles or so], and I tried to reciprocate by telling them as much as I thought they could appreciate about what I was doing, including the obligatory sending copies of offprints. All was very pleasant and civil when we were together.

So when my father referred to one of my early articles, on the rice trade of mainland Southeast Asia, as being about the vice trade, I didn’t have the heart to disillusion him.

(As for the age/generations thing, if it’s open to lurkers and occasional part-time commentators, as well as contributors proper, I have children aged 41 and 30, both academics [one PhD, one ABD], and a grandsprog as well. What do I win?)

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Chris Bertram 05.31.07 at 5:59 am

My eldest will be 22 in June, so that puts Michael in 3rd place among CTers as regards this “dubious distinction”. I’m hoping not to win the “1st grandparent” prize.

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magistra 05.31.07 at 6:21 am

dr ngo – you get the Darwinian prize of your academic genes continuing. But the grandsprog is likely to get forcibly told that if she must do a PhD she should pick a field where there’s actually a demand for lecturers. (She’s also banned from becoming a lawyer, but that’s a different issue).

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Richard 05.31.07 at 7:35 am

my parents simply could not stop themselves from chatting to me about whatever was crossing their minds no matter where Laurence Sterne and I tried to hide

Is it just me that thinks this little passage is worthy of Sterne himself?

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Anarch 05.31.07 at 9:02 am

dr ngo – you get the Darwinian prize of your academic genes continuing.

Well, some of them.

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chris armstrong 05.31.07 at 9:20 am

With in-laws, during holiday visits, I always get the feeling that when I pull out a book and retire to a dark corner to ‘work’, it’s interpreted simply as anti-social, as deliberately withdrawing from the (tiring) responsibility of maintaining polite conversation over extended periods of time. This is vexing to me, because it’s often true, and I thought I was more subtle. Fortunately, we are all too polite to say so explicitly. Now marking, that apparently DOES count as properly trumping the duty to chat about roses and the madness of town planning…

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Richard 05.31.07 at 9:33 am

On the topic of the qualitative difference between reading/surgery and painting/weeding: programmers have been complaining for years about the time it takes to get back to productive work after an interruption. Ten years ago when the business press was full of this the much-repeated number was 15 minutes of down-time after any demand to think or engage in something else. I don’t find these metrics very useful, but they at least help to explain why being chatted at while reading critically is worse than casual interaction while house-painting.

A little study from 2001 (well behind the curve of fast company et al:
http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/jackson01cost.html

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Richard 05.31.07 at 9:35 am

apologies for atrocious punctuation in comment 41: someone was talking to me.

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Alex 05.31.07 at 11:35 am

I’m hoping not to win the “1st grandparent” prize.

Lucky for you I’m lazy, poor and single.

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Luther Blissett 05.31.07 at 12:37 pm

My parents ask me every now and then, “How’s your paper going?” By “paper,” they mean “my dissertation.”

And yes, when I first explained to them that my wife was busy “working on her book,” they wanted to know what the story was about.

At the time, I just thought, “Silly parents.” Now, I realize they were completely right. The dissertation *is* merely a long paper, and it shouldn’t be treated as anything more than that. And a book without some sort of story is a really really bad book.

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Michael Bérubé 05.31.07 at 5:34 pm

Luther, in one of the essays in Rhetorical Occasions I mention a friend of mine in Charlottesville — a neonatal intensive care nurse, actually — who used to tweak me regularly by asking me how my “book report” was going.

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Thers 05.31.07 at 5:52 pm

My mom was always pretty good with the “reading = work” thing. It’s the blogging that she can’t figure out. It’s hard to explain that it’s not just screwing around on the Internet: it’s, uh, using the Internet to make fun of crazed, passive-aggressive law professors in Wisconsin. You know, lofty purposes like that.

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Chris Bertram 05.31.07 at 6:56 pm

_Lucky for you I’m lazy, poor and single._

I’ll talk to you later!

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thag 05.31.07 at 7:28 pm

oh c’mon, thers.
feed your mother whatever line you need to, but don’t try to feed it to us.

we all know: blogging is, just screwing around on the internet.

i mean–that’s on its *most* productive days. it’s only downhill from there.

and as for commenting on blogs, of christ, what a waste….

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Michael Bérubé 05.31.07 at 8:10 pm

Comments 36-43-47 . . . do you two know each other?

It’s hard to explain that it’s not just screwing around on the Internet: it’s, uh, using the Internet to make fun of crazed, passive-aggressive law professors in Wisconsin.

Well, Thers, I hope your mom realizes that the Internet is in fact the world’s most powerful and revolutionary tool for making fun of crazed, passive-aggressive law professors in Wisconsin. (And, of course, for advancing theories about academic bullies!) Why, before we had the Internet, we had to resort to Morse Code in order to make fun of crazed, passive-aggressive law professors in Wisconsin, and that wasn’t very effective. Or very entertaining, either!

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Bill Phillips 05.31.07 at 8:45 pm

I agree, digging a couple of holes for rose bushes is easier than reading a student paper. But have you tried digging holes for 8, or maybe 9, hours a day? I’m an academic and my working class mother-in-law’s attitude is the same: reading is not working. But I’ve worked on the buildings and in factories too and I think my mother-in-law has a point.

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Adrian 05.31.07 at 9:26 pm

My parents know what a provost is, and have graduate degrees of their own. It’s just a cultural difference between us that they don’t respect reading, and define it as infinitely interruptible. (When I was in grad school, the new president of the university told a gathering of faculty, “I think of myself as the shepherd of this little flock, and the provost is the crook on my staff.” There was a reorganization shortly thereafter, and the institution has managed to get along fine with no provost ever since.)

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Michael Bérubé 05.31.07 at 11:33 pm

I agree, digging a couple of holes for rose bushes is easier than reading a student paper. But have you tried digging holes for 8, or maybe 9, hours a day?

I’ve had some pretty lousy jobs, from foot messengerin’ to garment-district haulin’ to pizza deliverin’, but so far I have managed to avoid digging holes all day. In fact, I signed up for graduate school after hearing that famous Rose Royce funk/disco hit in which we are told that in academe, “you might not ever get rich / but lemme tell you it’s better than diggin’ a ditch.” And that’s why, to this day, no matter how busy a semester gets, I always tell myself it beats workin’.

the institution has managed to get along fine with no provost ever since

How can that be? Every staff needs a crook!

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BillCinSD 06.01.07 at 12:11 am

ABD is another of those academic things.

How many Throgs were killed to get their necks to make the Throgs neck Bridge? is this why Throgs aren’t around anymore?

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99 06.01.07 at 1:31 am

It’s so darn soothing to read your posts — few as there have been lately — because the seriousness with which you take teaching is so blaringly apparent, abounding even your most humorous digressions. Thanks for working so hard on our kids.

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Michael Bérubé 06.01.07 at 1:48 am

How many Throgs were killed to get their necks to make the Throgs neck Bridge?

Legend has it that over four hundred thousand throgs were killed over a three-year period. But that’s nothing compared to the number of goethals buried in the foundation of Staten Island’s infamous Goethals Bridge.

is this why Throgs aren’t around anymore?

Yes, that plus the fact that three-legged frogs were considered a delicacy by seventeenth-century French explorers.

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Michael Mouse 06.01.07 at 3:39 pm

Russell was right when he wrote:

Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth’s surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so. The first kind is unpleasant and ill paid; the second is pleasant and highly paid.

But things have moved on: there are now many crap service jobs that do not involve the alteration of the position of matter but are nonetheless pretty unpleasant and ill paid.

I still find academia pleasant and highly paid – relative to the general population at least.

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Ranting Nerd 06.02.07 at 8:37 pm

I was reading this post, and when you made reference to a Bourdieu Chart. I wasn’t familiar with that term, and went and google’d it — and the first thing that came up was … this post.

Perhaps Google should replace one or both of its “o”s with ourobouroses. (Ouroubouri? Ourobouropodes?)

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