Good Sense

Posted by John Holbo

We have an old (1909) children’s book, Fun & Fancy For the Little Ones. Which is not, actually, as grim as you would expect. The illustrations for "The Fishes Athletic Club" are alright. I just noticed there are ads on the inside cover (click for larger).

Corset

They marketed corsets for children under the brand name ‘Good Sense’? "These waists conform to the NATURAL BEAUTY of the human form as GOD made it, and are not made after "French" patterns."

I didn’t Photoshop that. And we don’t call em ‘saddlebags’ anymore, because that’s "French". We call ‘em ‘freedom thighs’.

Well, I just thought I’d share that with you.

posted on Wednesday, January 16th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
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  1. There really is a lot of print in that add, isn’t there. At first I thought, “that looks like a kid in the add, but it musn’t be since no one would sell corsets for kids” but I guess that just shows what I know.

  2. The “French” style was to “tight-lace” girls beginning in childhood for the express purpose of producing narrow-waisted young women. It was analogous to foot-binding. This company is advertising a corset with a waist that fits naturally. It’s a manifestation of the “dress reform” movement of the later nineteenth century.

    Posted by Bloix · January 16th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
  3. “The “French” style was to “tight-lace” girls beginning in childhood for the express purpose of producing narrow-waisted young women.”

    Aha. That makes more sense.

    As to all the words – the are very small in the original, which is only 3 inches by 2, approximately. It’s like trying to read the inside cover of a Chris Ware book.

    Posted by John Holbo · January 16th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
  4. That mishmash of font styles and sizes is quite eye-watering.

  5. Are you reacting to corsets for children, or corsets for children in 1909, or the French part?

    Posted by whiskey · January 16th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
  6. The semiology of this—in effect, ‘hey we’ve got a great splurge of words, but not to worry, we can squee-ee-eze them all into a tiny little space!—is appropriate enough for a corset company.

  7. Thanks for sharing.

    Posted by trane · January 16th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
  8. I don’t get it. If it conforms to the natural beauty of the human form, why would they need to wear it at all?

    Posted by George · January 16th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
  9. George: Because then, as now, “the natural beauty of the human form” is marketese for a state obtainable only by a very few, and that at great expense (and with good lighting). The rest are strongly encouraged to approximate it (at as great expense as practicable)

    Posted by Watson Aname · January 16th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
  10. “This company is advertising a corset with a waist that fits naturally.”

    More naturally = less tight? Cuz it’s still binding children with corsets, right? Unless corsets served another purpose back then…

  11. George and Luci- the likely target for this ad is a woman who herself was tight-laced but who has been influenced by progressive trends in child-rearing, and has come to believe that girls will benefit from exercise and fresh air. So she is willing to be convinced that her daughters should not be tight-laced. On the other hand, she still believes, as she was taught, that girls and young women need the “support” that a corset provides, and she herself likely does need that support, due to the weakness of her abdomen and back muscles – weakness caused by years of tight-lacing, although she does not know that. In addition, she may believe that an adolescent girl without a corset is likely to become a “loose” woman not merely literally but also figuratively. So this corset is a compromise. It will allow her daughters enough freedom of movement to enjoy decorous outdoor play but it will constrain her sufficiently for the requirements of propriety.

    Posted by Bloix · January 16th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
  12. Wow, free shipping even!

    Posted by david k · January 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
  13. Gotta keep that womb from floating.

    Posted by Hogan · January 16th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
  14. Bloix, thank you, that’s fascinating.

    I came here to take the piss out of crazy Edwardians but I stayed for the history lesson.

  15. Is that a price list on the lower right-hand side? At first I thought Oh cool, how forward-looking—they are using decimal sizing! But looking at it again, I think the sizes are implicit, and the decimal numbers are dollars and cents.

  16. (The font variation reminds me strongly of a P.T. Bridgeport speech balloon.)

  17. A propos of approximately nothing, I have a recollection that in one of the Little House on the Prairie books, Ma makes Laura wear her corset to bed. Apparently Ma believes that lying on one’s back without “support” will cause one’s waist to spread. Laura, not surprisingly, hates it. (No, I don’t remember this from reading the books as a child – I read them out loud to my own children.) Laura was a child on the frontier in the 1880’s. So corsets on girls were apparently standard even among rural poor people.

    Posted by Bloix · January 17th, 2008 at 2:10 am
  18. That “corset” doesn’t seem to be boned. It may be corded, so that it would be flexible rather than stiff. It looks like the “emancipation bodice” I’ve seen in 19th century magazines.

    Corsets are not necessarily uncomfortable. I know some large-busted women who say that a well-fitted corset (not tight-laced) is more comfortable than a brassiere, as the weight of the breasts is supported by the whole torso, not just hung from the shoulders. Some minimizer bras are effectively corsets.

    Several historical re-enactors also testify to the wearability of corsets.

    However, corsets are presumed to be torture devices by people who have never worn one, or even talked to anyone who has ever worn one.

  19. hey modesto kid, good eye, and great long-lost Pogo strips at that site! Where are they now ?

  20. I know its horrible, but all I can think of is the Wendy’s restaurants of my childhood, that for some bizarre reason had their tables covered with late 19th and early 29th century ads of this type. To this day I associate penny-farthings with double cheeseburgers which are square.

    [Cough] While the astute commentary above indicating that this was indeed a “progressive” development, I cannot help but be appalled by the image of…

    Posted by girondistnyc · January 17th, 2008 at 4:29 am
  21. “early 29th century ads of this type”

    I would totally love to see that.

    Posted by John Holbo · January 17th, 2008 at 5:34 am
  22. Zora: if I ever write a romance novel I will call it Emancipation Bodice.

    Posted by rootlesscosmo · January 17th, 2008 at 6:01 am
  23. The facsimile 1897 Sears catalogue has that style of advertising: the more words and fonts, the better. (See also The Prestige, for the way it conveys the sheer wordiness of public space from commercial advertising during that period.)

    And this does appear to be similar to the Liberty Bodice (‘emancipation bodice’ in the US): no ribs being removed here.

    Posted by nick s · January 17th, 2008 at 8:04 am
  24. A little contradiction here.

    Hey, look at this wacky nineteenth-century ad! Haven’t we come a long way since images of women were depicted in this way, encouraging young girls to torture themselves into unattainable shapes!

    (Cough)…

    I didn’t Photoshop that. And we don’t call em ‘saddlebags’ anymore, because that’s “French”. We call ‘em ‘freedom thighs’.

    And, check out the TOTALLY DISGUSTING THIGHS

    (Which, to me, looks like a combination of bad drawing and actually having, you know, thigh muscles, from riding bicycles and horses and such.)

  25. No no no helen. It’s just that nothing rhymes with ‘fries’ except ‘thighs’. ‘Freedom waist’ isn’t funny.

    Posted by John Holbo · January 17th, 2008 at 11:13 am
  26. Also, why do you call them disgusting? Do you hate FREEDOM!

    Posted by John Holbo · January 17th, 2008 at 11:15 am
  27. the precise decimal sizing is also interesting

  28. “The “French” style was to “tight-lace” girls beginning in childhood for the express purpose of producing narrow-waisted young women.”

    What is your reference for that? I have never seen anything like that statement before.

    Posted by bernarda · January 17th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
  29. ‘Freedom waist’ is funny-ish.

  30. bernarda, this article on JSTOR might be useful—I don’t know for sure because I do not have access to it—Fashion and Fetishism: A Social History of the Corset, Tight-Lacing, Other Forms of Body-Sculpture in the West by David Kunzle

  31. Also, on this page (which looks to be well written but I don’t see any information about the author): “It started with tightly wrapping babies and included children’s corsets, forcing the still soft skeleton into a fashionable shape.”

  32. hey modesto kid, good eye, and great long-lost Pogo strips at that site! Where are they now ?

    Fantagraphics has just started publishing the Complete Pogo. It is also publishing the Complete Peanuts, which my daughter is collecting.

    Posted by Rich B. · January 17th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
  33. Or, rather, will start publishing in October, 2008.

    Posted by Rich B. · January 17th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
  34. Also, why do you call them disgusting? Do you hate FREEDOM!

    FREE THE THIGHS
    .

    Posted by Grand Moff Texan · January 17th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
  35. It would be great to have some ‘convert your blog to a 19th Century ad’ widget. It would take the text and auto-convert it into a suitable mix of (mostly tiny) fonts and italics and caps. You could call the process ‘bridgeporting the text’.

    Posted by John Holbo · January 18th, 2008 at 1:50 am
  36. It really doesn’t look binding or even tight fitting, if the drawing is accurate. As for why women would wear corsets that weren’t binding—well, people wore a lot of clothing back then. A middle-class woman of a century ago did not leave the house without a corset, slip, petticoats, stockings, garters, blouse, skirt, high-buttoned shoes, jacket, hat, and I’m probably forgetting a few items.
    And I remember those weird ads at Wendy’s, too. I was fascinated by the barber who singed off your hair instead of clipping it.

  37. Germans call a hairdresser a friseur, which suggests hot irons at a minimum.

    (shaketh head, thighs)

    Posted by bad Jim · January 18th, 2008 at 9:25 am
  38. waist not: want? not

  39. The kid is really admirably chunky and would be regarded as fat today. And she doesn’t exactly have a fairy-princess look on her face either. So let’s not brag about progress.

  40. My gloves! Heavens to Betsy, how can I go shopping without my gloves?

    Posted by Xgirl · January 19th, 2008 at 12:40 am
  41. That’s begging to be made into a period-style ‘Has A Posse’

    Posted by Jon H · January 19th, 2008 at 3:18 am